Ticking noise, 6000 Miles Hemi.

[Andymax]

Broken manifold(s).

This is one of those times where it pays to read a few of the posts before commenting

 

[Benjamindevalk]

Hey,

I have an issue with my 2023 RAM 5.7 with 6000Miles...so, almost new I would say.

Last oil change by 3000 Miles.

I read a lot about the ticking by Hemi Engines and the cracked manifold. However, I understood, if the ticking noise will stop when the engine is warm its not the exhaust mainfold?

I linked a short clip, perhaps it helps to identify the issue. Sound comes - to my understanding - not from the top of the engine.

If anyone can identify / help identifying the issue - THX!!!

Marc

2021 Ram - ticked at 3k and dealer said it’s the normal hemi tick .. I about flipped my lid . Brought it back at 40 k - injector ticks they said . By 53 k it was bad - took it to another dealership - they claimed it was the exhaust manifolds and put new ones on under warranty . Got it back and it was the same . Brought it back 2 weeks later and now it’s the lifters . Just found out they are putting a reman engine in and only has 3yr 100k warranty . It don’t come with a reman engine - why is it acceptable to make the that the normal fix ? After the dealership experience and now a reman engine issue - I’ve lost all faith in the brand . It’s supposed to be done next week , and it will be on the market on Thursday. Not waiting for the tick to show back up and I’m stuck with it . Good looking truck - everything else is junk .
Also Had to pay 620 for new back up cam as it was just past the 3yr36 . The window seals on exterior lifted off the glass and it is a wind tunnel when driving - wind blasts on the side will pop your ears . Thanks for ripping me off , Ram . 50 k down the drain as we normally keep our vehicles 10+ years . Not this one …. @RamCares

 

[Jmac509]

I'm commenting to follow this thread. I'm hoping they take care of you and fix everything 100% under warranty.

 

[Magredvet]

Hmmmm just noticed a tick on cold start, this morning on my 24 with 5000 mls. It's not manifold issues, as I had that on my 19, and it went away after a few minutes.
Guess it's a trip to the dealer...... what on earth is going on with Ram?. I have had hemi's since 2009, and never had an issue with any of them.

 

[frisby5]

Hmmmm just noticed a tick on cold start, this morning on my 24 with 5000 mls. It's not manifold issues, as I had that on my 19, and it went away after a few minutes.
Guess it's a trip to the dealer...... what on earth is going on with Ram?. I have had hemi's since 2009, and never had an issue with any of them.

Does the tick go away after a few minutes, warmed up?

 

[1791]

I bought mine at 29K miles and I don't know what oil was used, but the records show dealers changed the oil. My first change with it was at @ 29K, and the dealer put in Duramax oil (It was on the invoice) and a cheap filter, needless to say thats the last time the dealer is doing mine. I like Valvoline synthetic so I use 5W-20 as the oil cap shows.

If I start the truck and shut it down before its warm and let it sit, the lifters tick for the first few seconds after restarting it. But as the OP's video plays, you can clearly hear it ticking loud, and the dealer needs to investigate it. This is my first gas engine truck since 2004, and I'm impressed with it, but the engine has a history of this. Most of the time its an exhaust leak, but as the truck warms up it should quieten down, and at 6K miles its too early for the exhaust to crack where they normally do causing the noise. Please update us on the dealer diagnosis.

like you got mine used with 67k on it carfax shows almost 10k between oil changes. no tick but she gets changed at 5k now.

 

[Magredvet]

Does the tick go away after a few minutes, warmed up?

Just checked, no noise when fully hot, so I'll check it again from cold tomorrow. Maybe a lifter was slow to pump up, as it hadn't been driven for a week. 1000 or so miles since dealer oil change......

 

[Morenar]

Just checked, no noise when fully hot, so I'll check it again from cold tomorrow. Maybe a lifter was slow to pump up, as it hadn't been driven for a week. 1000 or so miles since dealer oil change......

This is how it was on mine and it was the manifolds.

 

[Magredvet]

This is how it was on mine and it was the manifolds.

At 5000 miles ? My previous truck did not start "ticking" until about 38000, and it would stop after a minute or so, which was a cracked manifold. This one sounds different, and doesn't stop until the motor is fully up to temp. I'll be much happier if it is the manifolds, or a broken exhaust bolt, but it sure doesn't sound the same as my 19 did. I'll check it out from cold tomorrow, and then if it is still bad, I'll take it in. Thanks for all the replies

 

[Morenar]

At 5000 miles ? My previous truck did not start "ticking" until about 38000, and it would stop after a minute or so, which was a cracked manifold. This one sounds different, and doesn't stop until the motor is fully up to temp. I'll be much happier if it is the manifolds, or a broken exhaust bolt, but it sure doesn't sound the same as my 19 did. I'll check it out from cold tomorrow, and then if it is still bad, I'll take it in. Thanks for all the replies

Sorry about that. Missed that it was a 2024 with low miles. I know my hemi has a small tick on startup but goes away quickly. The louder tick which also occurred at startup, was the manifolds on mine.

 

[Magredvet]

Interesting.....no abnormal noises this morning, on a cold start. I am guessing it was a stuck lifter, after sitting for a week. I have a similar problem with my M112 MB engine when it sits, it takes a few minutes for the lifters to quiet. Wouldn't have expected it at 5000 miles however, does not bode well for the future.

 

[frisby5]

Interesting.....no abnormal noises this morning, on a cold start. I am guessing it was a stuck lifter, after sitting for a week. I have a similar problem with my M112 MB engine when it sits, it takes a few minutes for the lifters to quiet. Wouldn't have expected it at 5000 miles however, does not bode well for the future.

I have 6700 miles on mine and it does the same thing when it sits for a week i only drive mine on weekends. I just put in 5w 30 mobil 1 , see how that helps mine

 

[Willwork4truck]

like you got mine used with 67k on it carfax shows almost 10k between oil changes. no tick but she gets changed at 5k now.

Damn thats scary to have the oil change intervals that long. Would really make me wonder how to possibly reverse any lifter damage.

 

[kapinallinen2]

What I have experienced is after starting the truck when cold and running it a very short time, like backing out of the driveway and pulling back in, the next time I start it the valve train sounds like it is completely void of oil until the pressure builds back up and fills the lifters.
Only happens when the engine is cold, I can drive around the block and it does not do it. In my case, a problem with oil filter drain back valve perhaps?

 

[kapinallinen2]

Damn thats scary to have the oil change intervals that long. Would really make me wonder how to possibly reverse any lifter damage.

There is no reversing mechanical damage to the needle bearings short of replacing the lifters and the cam.

 

[1791]

Damn thats scary to have the oil change intervals that long. Would really make me wonder how to possibly reverse any lifter damage.

that is what dodge call's for, the oil + filter claim's 10k so i get why the PO did it. if i leased i would go 10k any damage will be the next guy's problem.
this is from the dealer however if you are buying and intend on keeping the truck do not follow this.

RAM’s integrated Oil Change Indicator takes the guesswork out​

All RAM 1500 pickup trucks have the Oil Change Indicator as a standard feature. It’s a smart sensor that analyzes your engine’s size, oil quality, and more to determine in real time whether your truck needs an oil change.
Once the Indicator, which is an orange box reading “OIL CHANGE REQUIRED,” lights up on your dashboard, you have about 15% life left in your oil. That light means you should schedule an oil change immediately, but if you like scheduling your maintenance out a bit more, here’s some rules of thumb:

If your driving is generally pretty light, like commuting or taking the kids to school, plan on changing the oil every 7,500 to 10,000 miles.
If you do some light towing every now and then, like to a tailgate or for working on the house, get an oil change every 5,000 to 8,000 miles.
If your RAM really works hard towing lots of weight, or if you regularly off-road, replace the oil every 3,000 to 5,000 miles.

 

[kapinallinen2]

If your driving is generally pretty light, like commuting or taking the kids to school, plan on changing the oil every 7,500 to 10,000 miles.

Where did that sales pitch come from? Just curious.
That right there throws red flags in my book, accumulation of unburned fuel and water in the crank case, diluting the oil from short trips with a cold engine.

 

[1791]

Where did that sales pitch come from? Just curious.
That right there throws red flags in my book, accumulation of unburned fuel and water in the crank case, diluting the oil from short trips with a cold engine.

some rando dealer but the manual has a similar statement on page 365.
it also states don't go past 10k but your oil change indicator could pop off at as little as 3500 mi depending on a factors. it has a algorithm....whatever.
as a former mechanic i do not advise going over 5k.
i'm not worried about the wear it had or has it runs great no ticks and if it has a issue well that's a excuse to upgrade the cam and delete the mds lifters/system.

 

[Willwork4truck]

that is what dodge call's for, the oil + filter claim's 10k so i get why the PO did it. if i leased i would go 10k any damage will be the next guy's problem.
this is from the dealer however if you are buying and intend on keeping the truck do not follow this.

RAM’s integrated Oil Change Indicator takes the guesswork out​

All RAM 1500 pickup trucks have the Oil Change Indicator as a standard feature. It’s a smart sensor that analyzes your engine’s size, oil quality, and more to determine in real time whether your truck needs an oil change.
Once the Indicator, which is an orange box reading “OIL CHANGE REQUIRED,” lights up on your dashboard, you have about 15% life left in your oil. That light means you should schedule an oil change immediately, but if you like scheduling your maintenance out a bit more, here’s some rules of thumb:

If your driving is generally pretty light, like commuting or taking the kids to school, plan on changing the oil every 7,500 to 10,000 miles.
If you do some light towing every now and then, like to a tailgate or for working on the house, get an oil change every 5,000 to 8,000 miles.
If your RAM really works hard towing lots of weight, or if you regularly off-road, replace the oil every 3,000 to 5,000 miles.

I get that from the manufacturers, they all want to keep their maintenance costs down. For owners that do even a casual search of YT on their vehicle, they can see many videos about different makes that all discuss the need to halve the mileage requirements. If you read the description of “severe duty”, many drivers are actually in that categuory.

From napaonline: “Proper car care includes following the manufacturer’s maintenance schedule for your vehicle. Every manufacturer provides a schedule, and it’s typically divided into two parts: normal and severe duty. You may believe that following a normal-duty schedule is the right fit for you, but most drivers should actually adhere to a heavy-duty schedule.

Several years ago, AAA asked 841 motorists about their driving habits to determine if they did any of the following:

• Drive their vehicles on trips of fewer than 5 miles during mild weather or fewer than 10 miles in freezing conditions: Short trips cause an accumulation of water vapor, which dilutes motor oil and adversely impacts performance.
• Drive in bumper-to-bumper traffic in hot weather:Extreme temperatures can take a toll on your car. Not only can this wear out your battery faster, but lubricants such as motor oil break down more rapidly as well.
• Consistently drive at speeds below 50 miles per hour for long stretches: Your vehicle is designed to run best on open roads at highway speeds. Anything less increases wear and tear, requiring stepped-up maintenance intervals.
• Traverse roads that are salty, muddy or dusty, or roads with sandy or gravel-covered surfaces: Dirt roads can clog your air filter, preventing clean air from entering the engine. This makes your engine work harder, reducing fuel economy in the process.
• Regularly tow a trailer, have a camper affixed to a pickup truck or carry items on top of the vehicle, such as a roof-top carrier: Carrying any extra load, including on the roof, is weight your car bears at a cost to its efficiency.“

I don't tow anymore yet I often do all of the other conditions. The OP stated that he changes now at 5K. Hopefully that will save him.

 

[frisby5]

that is what dodge call's for, the oil + filter claim's 10k so i get why the PO did it. if i leased i would go 10k any damage will be the next guy's problem.
this is from the dealer however if you are buying and intend on keeping the truck do not follow this.

RAM’s integrated Oil Change Indicator takes the guesswork out​

All RAM 1500 pickup trucks have the Oil Change Indicator as a standard feature. It’s a smart sensor that analyzes your engine’s size, oil quality, and more to determine in real time whether your truck needs an oil change.
Once the Indicator, which is an orange box reading “OIL CHANGE REQUIRED,” lights up on your dashboard, you have about 15% life left in your oil. That light means you should schedule an oil change immediately, but if you like scheduling your maintenance out a bit more, here’s some rules of thumb:

If your driving is generally pretty light, like commuting or taking the kids to school, plan on changing the oil every 7,500 to 10,000 miles.
If you do some light towing every now and then, like to a tailgate or for working on the house, get an oil change every 5,000 to 8,000 miles.
If your RAM really works hard towing lots of weight, or if you regularly off-road, replace the oil every 3,000 to

I get that from the manufacturers, they all want to keep their maintenance costs down. For owners that do even a casual search of YT on their vehicle, they can see many videos about different makes that all discuss the need to halve the mileage requirements. If you read the description of “severe duty”, many drivers are actually in that categuory.

From napaonline: “Proper car care includes following the manufacturer’s maintenance schedule for your vehicle. Every manufacturer provides a schedule, and it’s typically divided into two parts: normal and severe duty. You may believe that following a normal-duty schedule is the right fit for you, but most drivers should actually adhere to a heavy-duty schedule.

Several years ago, AAA asked 841 motorists about their driving habits to determine if they did any of the following:

• Drive their vehicles on trips of fewer than 5 miles during mild weather or fewer than 10 miles in freezing conditions: Short trips cause an accumulation of water vapor, which dilutes motor oil and adversely impacts performance.
• Drive in bumper-to-bumper traffic in hot weather:Extreme temperatures can take a toll on your car. Not only can this wear out your battery faster, but lubricants such as motor oil break down more rapidly as well.
• Consistently drive at speeds below 50 miles per hour for long stretches: Your vehicle is designed to run best on open roads at highway speeds. Anything less increases wear and tear, requiring stepped-up maintenance intervals.
• Traverse roads that are salty, muddy or dusty, or roads with sandy or gravel-covered surfaces: Dirt roads can clog your air filter, preventing clean air from entering the engine. This makes your engine work harder, reducing fuel economy in the process.
• Regularly tow a trailer, have a camper affixed to a pickup truck or carry items on top of the vehicle, such as a roof-top carrier: Carrying any extra load, including on the roof, is weight your car bears at a cost to its efficiency.“

I don't tow anymore yet I often do all of the other conditions. The OP stated that he changes now at 5K. Hopefully that will save him.

I tow a TH loaded with my SxS and other camping equipment also on dirt roads . Thats pretty much what i use my truck for. I have 6700 miles on my truck and have changed my oil 3 times , once at 1k to get the factory oil out and did see a bunch of shiny breakin metal in the oil pan , and since i drive on dirt roads 2 times since that and i just put in 5w 30 M1 syn im in AZ and oil temps get high and i tow heavy . Engine sounds better running 5w 30 , dont hear the ticking like i did before when running 0w 20 and i added lubegaurd