Start of 2022 Production.

[NcreAighStonH]

You and I have similar builds, and very similar VINs (we ordered the same day). TRX business aside, my dealer agreed to reorder my Rebel for the same discount off of MSRP and it appears to be working out now as it is in D1 already. Think your dealer would do the same?
Just keep in mind that the MSRP went up by $4k since May.

@NOVA-Rebel I’m placing another order tomorrow. (Similar Build) POC attached.

 

[speedbyu]

Just a couple of pics of my truck still at the dealers.View attachment 111475View attachment 111476

Does the delmonico red longhorn have ramboxes and what dealership?

 

[triple_B]

Added 685 Window Stickers tonight. 2 more forum members with trucks on the way! Congratulations to @Moncree, @Cmcmotors

VIN	BS	WS	STATE	COLOR	SERIES
122365 @Moncree	X	X	Missouri	Ivory	Longhorn
151906 @Cmcmotors	X	X	Virginia	Red	Big Horn / Lonestar

 

[HAG1417]

So I finally got a real answer on what’s going on with my build. First of all I am going to put this statement out before I post what I know. I have posted it before. I am a current Stellantis employee. The dealership I am working with is less then five miles from my facility. I will not publicly or privately (so save the pm’s)post where I got the following information. So I at the end of last week went to my dealership and I shook the tree pretty hard. My sales guy is great. He is long time sales guy and has been dealing with employees from my facility for quite sometime. So to cut to the chase. He got the dealership sales manager contact the regional sales manager who in turn got in contact with someone up in corporate. I have the complete email chain from my sales guy. The email included a screenshot of what I would say is part of the scheduling system. It showed Limited builds that are heavily optioned (exact wording from the email chain) like mine broken down listing as the option codes. So there was ten builds that are as heavily optioned as mine listed. Then the list was in order by order date. The it showed promised build date then slotted build date. So before I say what the build dates are keep in mind these are simple facts. I had for some stupid reason didn’t think anyone else had my exact build. Wrong!!!! The screen shot showed ten of my exact build. So the final piece of the puzzle. The heavily optioned Limited like mine at the top of the list has a 5/12/2021 order date. It has a 12/06/2021 promise build date. It has a slotted build date of 1/26/2022. The tenth one on the list (screenshot only shows those ten) has an order date of 6/10/2021 a promise date of 1/24/2022 and a slotted build date of 1/26/2022. The person that sent this then commented on my order date of 7/16/2021 will not get built until sometime in February. So all the talk about them gathering parts is like this. They build what they can build based on options available. They don’t “store your parts” waiting for everything to accumulate. There would not be enough storage space. So me not being a “instant gratification guy” I can wait to get what I want. You can whine all you want and say I am going order a GM or a Toyota. Guess what they all have current option restrictions too. Again don’t ask for the email as I love my job and I am not jeopardizing it period. Sorry for the long winded post but I thought this was important. Also Eighty or Triple B are more qualified to answer this. But the members builds from this forum is just a minor sliver of the sold orders Stellantis has currently. So I don’t expect to see my build sheet until February 2022.

 

[Mathis35]

So I finally got a real answer on what’s going on with my build. First of all I am going to put this statement out before I post what I know. I have posted it before. I am a current Stellantis employee. The dealership I am working with is less then five miles from my facility. I will not publicly or privately (so save the pm’s)post where I got the following information. So I at the end of last week went to my dealership and I shook the tree pretty hard. My sales guy is great. He is long time sales guy and has been dealing with employees from my facility for quite sometime. So to cut to the chase. He got the dealership sales manager contact the regional sales manager who in turn got in contact with someone up in corporate. I have the complete email chain from my sales guy. The email included a screenshot of what I would say is part of the scheduling system. It showed Limited builds that are heavily optioned (exact wording from the email chain) like mine broken down listing as the option codes. So there was ten builds that are as heavily optioned as mine listed. Then the list was in order by order date. The it showed promised build date then slotted build date. So before I say what the build dates are keep in mind these are simple facts. I had for some stupid reason didn’t think anyone else had my exact build. Wrong!!!! The screen shot showed ten of my exact build. So the final piece of the puzzle. The heavily optioned Limited like mine at the top of the list has a 5/12/2021 order date. It has a 12/06/2021 promise build date. It has a slotted build date of 1/26/2022. The tenth one on the list (screenshot only shows those ten) has an order date of 6/10/2021 a promise date of 1/24/2022 and a slotted build date of 1/26/2022. The person that sent this then commented on my order date of 7/16/2021 will not get built until sometime in February. So all the talk about them gathering parts is like this. They build what they can build based on options available. They don’t “store your parts” waiting for everything to accumulate. There would not be enough storage space. So me not being a “instant gratification guy” I can wait to get what I want. You can whine all you want and say I am going order a GM or a Toyota. Guess what they all have current option restrictions too. Again don’t ask for the email as I love my job and I am not jeopardizing it period. Sorry for the long winded post but I thought this was important. Also Eighty or Triple B are more qualified to answer this. But the members builds from this forum is just a minor sliver of the sold orders Stellantis has currently. So I don’t expect to see my build sheet until February 2022.

So, 200xxx+ vins that are being built in less than an month? Or the TRX that are ordered and built the next day? I think that's what everyone is confused about and questioning.

 

[HAG1417]

I was given a list of the specific options holding up many orders.
GWJ Dual-Pane Panoramic Sunroof
DMH 3.92 Rear axle ratio
A69 Limited Level 1 Equipment Group
ADE Cold Weather Group
MWK Multi-Function Tailgate

are the specific options holding up my build. If they don’t have them all at once they build what they can at the time. So the fascination with VIN numbers is pretty much irrelevant at this point based on what I have seen.

 

[Boomer0629]

First post here so feel free to criticize anything. I don't know where to post this question but this is the group/conversation I've been following since I have a 2022 ram 1500 order on the way to the dealer. If it belongs in a different forum let let me know.

No one has been able to explain this to me. I have a new 2022 ram bighorn on the way to me. It has v6 etorque, 3.55 axel, crew cab, 5'7" bed which when you plug into the tow guide on Ram's website it says that it should have 2,020lbs payload and 7,550lbs towing. However, now that Ram has allowed the tow guide to take 2022 VINs plugging in the VIN comes back with 1,859lbs payload and 7,859lbs towing. I'm not mad about this it was rather a pleasant surprise, will make towing the small camper potentially easier I hope. No one has been able to explain why my towing is actually higher than any tow guide suggests that combination of things should tow. I you guys here seem to know more about Ram trucks than Ram does sometimes, unfortunately. Can anyone explain why a V6 crew cab is suddenly capable of towing more than any V6 should be capable? (per their towing info) Or where to post such a question? VIN of the truck is 1C6REFFG0NN102883. Thanks for any help.

 

[KWKSLVR]

So I finally got a real answer on what’s going on with my build. First of all I am going to put this statement out before I post what I know. I have posted it before. I am a current Stellantis employee. The dealership I am working with is less then five miles from my facility. I will not publicly or privately (so save the pm’s)post where I got the following information. So I at the end of last week went to my dealership and I shook the tree pretty hard. My sales guy is great. He is long time sales guy and has been dealing with employees from my facility for quite sometime. So to cut to the chase. He got the dealership sales manager contact the regional sales manager who in turn got in contact with someone up in corporate. I have the complete email chain from my sales guy. The email included a screenshot of what I would say is part of the scheduling system. It showed Limited builds that are heavily optioned (exact wording from the email chain) like mine broken down listing as the option codes. So there was ten builds that are as heavily optioned as mine listed. Then the list was in order by order date. The it showed promised build date then slotted build date. So before I say what the build dates are keep in mind these are simple facts. I had for some stupid reason didn’t think anyone else had my exact build. Wrong!!!! The screen shot showed ten of my exact build. So the final piece of the puzzle. The heavily optioned Limited like mine at the top of the list has a 5/12/2021 order date. It has a 12/06/2021 promise build date. It has a slotted build date of 1/26/2022. The tenth one on the list (screenshot only shows those ten) has an order date of 6/10/2021 a promise date of 1/24/2022 and a slotted build date of 1/26/2022. The person that sent this then commented on my order date of 7/16/2021 will not get built until sometime in February. So all the talk about them gathering parts is like this. They build what they can build based on options available. They don’t “store your parts” waiting for everything to accumulate. There would not be enough storage space. So me not being a “instant gratification guy” I can wait to get what I want. You can whine all you want and say I am going order a GM or a Toyota. Guess what they all have current option restrictions too. Again don’t ask for the email as I love my job and I am not jeopardizing it period. Sorry for the long winded post but I thought this was important. Also Eighty or Triple B are more qualified to answer this. But the members builds from this forum is just a minor sliver of the sold orders Stellantis has currently. So I don’t expect to see my build sheet until February 2022.

This sounds similar to what I was told. I'm heavily optioned but no sunroof or cold weather group. Anyway, my dealer's regional manager reached out to see what's going on and I was told 12/06/2021 for the build date. This is with a June order date (details in signature). They also said that there are no hangups or holds in my order. They make it sound like they are just working through their list of what they are building before the planned start date for mine. Beats me.

 

[bigdodge]

First post here so feel free to criticize anything. I don't know where to post this question but this is the group/conversation I've been following since I have a 2022 ram 1500 order on the way to the dealer. If it belongs in a different forum let let me know.

No one has been able to explain this to me. I have a new 2022 ram bighorn on the way to me. It has v6 etorque, 3.55 axel, crew cab, 5'7" bed which when you plug into the tow guide on Ram's website it says that it should have 2,020lbs payload and 7,550lbs towing. However, now that Ram has allowed the tow guide to take 2022 VINs plugging in the VIN comes back with 1,859lbs payload and 7,859lbs towing. I'm not mad about this it was rather a pleasant surprise, will make towing the small camper potentially easier I hope. No one has been able to explain why my towing is actually higher than any tow guide suggests that combination of things should tow. I you guys here seem to know more about Ram trucks than Ram does sometimes, unfortunately. Can anyone explain why a V6 crew cab is suddenly capable of towing more than any V6 should be capable? (per their towing info) Or where to post such a question? VIN of the truck is 1C6REFFG0NN102883. Thanks for any help.

it depends on the options.
because you do not have a build sheet as of this post it is really hard to give a better answer

i went to ram trucks and it did not pop up

 

[SnowBlaZR2]

This sounds similar to what I was told. I'm heavily optioned but no sunroof or cold weather group. Anyway, my dealer's regional manager reached out to see what's going on and I was told 12/06/2021 for the build date. This is with a June order date (details in signature). They also said that there are no hangups or holds in my order. They make it sound like they are just working through their list of what they are building before the planned start date for mine. Beats me.

I don't see 3.92 or pano sunroof in your build.

Must be the decal delete that's holding yours up.

 

[Boomer0629]

it depends on the options.
because you do not have a build sheet as of this post it is really hard to give a better answer

https://www.ramtrucks.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?SSBkb250IGtub3cgaG93IHRvIGNsZWFyIHRoZSBjYWNoZSBvZiBteSBicm93c2VyIHNvIHRyaXBsZUIgaGVscGVkIG1lIG91dC4=SSBkb250IGtub3cgaG93IHRvIGNsZWFyIHRoZSBjYWNoZSBvZiBteSBicm93c2VyIHNvIHRyaXBsZUIgaGVscGVkIG1lIG91dC4&vin=1C6RREFG0NN102883&SSBkb250IGtub3cgaG93IHRvIGNsZWFyIHRoZSBjYWNoZSBvZiBteSBicm93c2VyIHNvIHRyaXBsZUIgaGVscGVkIG1lIG91dC4=SSBkb250IGtub3cgaG93IHRvIGNsZWFyIHRoZSBjYWNoZSBvZiBteSBicm93c2VyIHNvIHRyaXBsZUIgaGVscGVkIG1lIG91dC4

 

[bigdodge]

https://www.ramtrucks.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?SSBkb250IGtub3cgaG93IHRvIGNsZWFyIHRoZSBjYWNoZSBvZiBteSBicm93c2VyIHNvIHRyaXBsZUIgaGVscGVkIG1lIG91dC4=SSBkb250IGtub3cgaG93IHRvIGNsZWFyIHRoZSBjYWNoZSBvZiBteSBicm93c2VyIHNvIHRyaXBsZUIgaGVscGVkIG1lIG91dC4&vin=1C6RREFG0NN102883&SSBkb250IGtub3cgaG93IHRvIGNsZWFyIHRoZSBjYWNoZSBvZiBteSBicm93c2VyIHNvIHRyaXBsZUIgaGVscGVkIG1lIG91dC4=SSBkb250IGtub3cgaG93IHRvIGNsZWFyIHRoZSBjYWNoZSBvZiBteSBicm93c2VyIHNvIHRyaXBsZUIgaGVscGVkIG1lIG91dC4

i went to ram trucks and it did not pop up

any way you have the sprayed in bed liner and the bigger gas tank

these change the weight of the truck

 

[Boomer0629]

I didn't realize that would add over 300 lbs to towing. Interesting though, thanks.

 

[bigdodge]

I didn't realize that would add over 300 lbs to towing. Interesting though, thanks.

you can not go by what is on line

you have to wait to see what the door sticker states

 

[monkeypunch]

So I finally got a real answer on what’s going on with my build. First of all I am going to put this statement out before I post what I know. I have posted it before. I am a current Stellantis employee. The dealership I am working with is less then five miles from my facility. I will not publicly or privately (so save the pm’s)post where I got the following information. So I at the end of last week went to my dealership and I shook the tree pretty hard. My sales guy is great. He is long time sales guy and has been dealing with employees from my facility for quite sometime. So to cut to the chase. He got the dealership sales manager contact the regional sales manager who in turn got in contact with someone up in corporate. I have the complete email chain from my sales guy. The email included a screenshot of what I would say is part of the scheduling system. It showed Limited builds that are heavily optioned (exact wording from the email chain) like mine broken down listing as the option codes. So there was ten builds that are as heavily optioned as mine listed. Then the list was in order by order date. The it showed promised build date then slotted build date. So before I say what the build dates are keep in mind these are simple facts. I had for some stupid reason didn’t think anyone else had my exact build. Wrong!!!! The screen shot showed ten of my exact build. So the final piece of the puzzle. The heavily optioned Limited like mine at the top of the list has a 5/12/2021 order date. It has a 12/06/2021 promise build date. It has a slotted build date of 1/26/2022. The tenth one on the list (screenshot only shows those ten) has an order date of 6/10/2021 a promise date of 1/24/2022 and a slotted build date of 1/26/2022. The person that sent this then commented on my order date of 7/16/2021 will not get built until sometime in February. So all the talk about them gathering parts is like this. They build what they can build based on options available. They don’t “store your parts” waiting for everything to accumulate. There would not be enough storage space. So me not being a “instant gratification guy” I can wait to get what I want. You can whine all you want and say I am going order a GM or a Toyota. Guess what they all have current option restrictions too. Again don’t ask for the email as I love my job and I am not jeopardizing it period. Sorry for the long winded post but I thought this was important. Also Eighty or Triple B are more qualified to answer this. But the members builds from this forum is just a minor sliver of the sold orders Stellantis has currently. So I don’t expect to see my build sheet until February 2022.

Did that screen shot happen to show a 6/22 order date?????? I also ordered an optioned ecodiesel, 6'4" bed and 4x4.

Edit: guess not if it only went to 6/10.

Here's my real problem with all this. They are building trucks with everything we ordered, just not in 1 truck. They are purposefully skipping trucks ordered earlier to build late orders just to build more. They have plenty of parts to build what we ordered. They just refuse to do it. We are getting ****ed over. It's terrible customer service, and neither RAM or the dealers give a ****.

 

[PaHydroRam]

This sounds similar to what I was told. I'm heavily optioned but no sunroof or cold weather group. Anyway, my dealer's regional manager reached out to see what's going on and I was told 12/06/2021 for the build date. This is with a June order date (details in signature). They also said that there are no hangups or holds in my order. They make it sound like they are just working through their list of what they are building before the planned start date for mine. Beats me.

It's consistent with what I've been told. They are definitely doing what they can at the dealer. It's a tough spot for everyone

 

[bigdodge]

So I finally got a real answer on what’s going on with my build. First of all I am going to put this statement out before I post what I know. I have posted it before. I am a current Stellantis employee. The dealership I am working with is less then five miles from my facility. I will not publicly or privately (so save the pm’s)post where I got the following information. So I at the end of last week went to my dealership and I shook the tree pretty hard. My sales guy is great. He is long time sales guy and has been dealing with employees from my facility for quite sometime. So to cut to the chase. He got the dealership sales manager contact the regional sales manager who in turn got in contact with someone up in corporate. I have the complete email chain from my sales guy. The email included a screenshot of what I would say is part of the scheduling system. It showed Limited builds that are heavily optioned (exact wording from the email chain) like mine broken down listing as the option codes. So there was ten builds that are as heavily optioned as mine listed. Then the list was in order by order date. The it showed promised build date then slotted build date. So before I say what the build dates are keep in mind these are simple facts. I had for some stupid reason didn’t think anyone else had my exact build. Wrong!!!! The screen shot showed ten of my exact build. So the final piece of the puzzle. The heavily optioned Limited like mine at the top of the list has a 5/12/2021 order date. It has a 12/06/2021 promise build date. It has a slotted build date of 1/26/2022. The tenth one on the list (screenshot only shows those ten) has an order date of 6/10/2021 a promise date of 1/24/2022 and a slotted build date of 1/26/2022. The person that sent this then commented on my order date of 7/16/2021 will not get built until sometime in February. So all the talk about them gathering parts is like this. They build what they can build based on options available. They don’t “store your parts” waiting for everything to accumulate. There would not be enough storage space. So me not being a “instant gratification guy” I can wait to get what I want. You can whine all you want and say I am going order a GM or a Toyota. Guess what they all have current option restrictions too. Again don’t ask for the email as I love my job and I am not jeopardizing it period. Sorry for the long winded post but I thought this was important. Also Eighty or Triple B are more qualified to answer this. But the members builds from this forum is just a minor sliver of the sold orders Stellantis has currently. So I don’t expect to see my build sheet until February 2022.

you were not given the option to drop some of your items

are you ok with what they told you

your not on the assembly line are you.


why can't you just talk with the plant manager

 

[Moncree]

Much Thanks to you and Eighty!!!

Added 685 Window Stickers tonight. 2 more forum members with trucks on the way! Congratulations to @Moncree, @Cmcmotors

VIN	BS	WS	STATE	COLOR	SERIES
122365 @Moncree	X	X	Missouri	Ivory	Longhorn
151906 @Cmcmotors	X	X	Virginia	Red	Big Horn / Lonestar

 

[monkeypunch]

This sounds similar to what I was told. I'm heavily optioned but no sunroof or cold weather group. Anyway, my dealer's regional manager reached out to see what's going on and I was told 12/06/2021 for the build date. This is with a June order date (details in signature). They also said that there are no hangups or holds in my order. They make it sound like they are just working through their list of what they are building before the planned start date for mine. Beats me.

You are getting more response from MD then I am. It just been told "it is what it is". No dates or following up with anyone...

 

[x50]

Did that screen shot happen to show a 6/22 order date?????? I also ordered an optioned ecodiesel, 6'4" bed and 4x4.

Edit: guess not if it only went to 6/10.

Here's my real problem with all this. They are building trucks with everything we ordered, just not in 1 truck. They are purposefully skipping trucks ordered earlier to build late orders just to build more. They have plenty of parts to build what we ordered. They just refuse to do it. We are getting ****ed over. It's terrible customer service, and neither RAM or the dealers give a ****.

I work for a railroad and we have something called OTP, which stands for On Time Performance. This is applied to how well a train makes it from point A to point B (and all the stops in between) at the posted/scheduled times. If a train gets delayed for a considerable amount of time, it's considered a "Loser" and no one cares about the OTP for that train anymore. We make sure the delayed train doesn't cause delays to other trains because a favorable overall OTP is what the people above my pay grade are looking for.

Maybe this is what is happening at the factory and that is why we see newer orders with similar options getting built faster.