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So this happened to me after one week of ownership.

BowDown said:
Not true, that won't work on Advanced Wheel Locks or Gorilla Guards (what I have)

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. Gorilla wasn't too good, mopar was better.
 
c3k said:
Sure, insurance is there. But so is civil court. The OP was robbed. The thief was arrested. Sue his ***.
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Sounds like a good idea aside from the time it takes to get a hearing, lawyer fees, and the time for you to get reimbursed. Basically time and lawyers. Lawyer(s) will be needed pre, during, and post and will suck the life out of any reward. And these days with fill-in the blank matters, it's gonna be an uphill battle.

The less time dealing with lawyers and criminals the better off you are. The only caveat is if you have a friend or family member in a law firm you trust and is willing to take the case without gouging you. But even then, you need to decide if your quality of life if not your very life is worth being a criminal antagonist. The insurance company can do that.
 
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Did they have a security camera? How was the perp ID’d?
 
Lufty said:
That’s sick! Some people are that low. I will definitely be checking into some type of wheel lock.

Scram-I hear ya! I’ve got Taurus Raging Bull, that’s a bull you don’t wanna run with.
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My Beretta 9mm would love to help find them scumbags!
 
All wheel locks can be defeated. With battery-powered tools, these days thieves have a one-up. They can however make your vehicle just a little bit less appealing as a target. As for wanting to do bodily harm to the scum bag, I totally get that. As a CCW holder though for multiple states, if I caught someone stealing my wheels I am stepping back and calling the police. It is too easy to end up in jail these days while that same scumbags mom in on the news 24-7 telling the world what a great kid he was trying to help feed his family. Cowboy justice isn't worth not being around to send my own kids through college.
 
Aseras said:
A set of these an electric impact gun and any wheel lock is gone in seconds.

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These will not work on my wheel locks for certain. And by the time they try to hammer anything on any of my wheels the alarm shock sensor will make it go off.
 

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Runagun said:
. Gorilla wasn't too good, mopar was better.
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Noise.
You gotta do that 4 times.
I have the mopar ones too bit I don't like how far they stick out.

As far as stealing wheels go, I knew some guys that did that when I was in college (they weren't, HS friends that went different directions after HS). They'd avoid cars with locks due to the amount of time (exposure) it added to stealing wheels.
Battery impacts make quick work but again, noise; none of the ones that can take wheels off are quiet. Those dealerships you see getting hit all the time, cordless impacts.
Hammering on sockets and cordless impacts aren't going to happen in a neighborhood.

Any lock is better than no lock
 
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ldoh said:
Sounds like a good idea aside from the time it takes to get a hearing, lawyer fees, and the time for you to get reimbursed. Basically time and lawyers. Lawyer(s) will be needed pre, during, and post and will suck the life out of any reward. And these days with fill-in the blank matters, it's gonna be an uphill battle.

The less time dealing with lawyers and criminals the better off you are. The only caveat is if you have a friend or family member in a law firm you trust and is willing to take the case without gouging you. But even then, you need to decide if your quality of life if not your very life is worth being a criminal antagonist. The insurance company can do that.
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Wouldn't this be small claims, so no attorney?
 
Ellisstrong said:
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Exactly what I have. 2 on each wheel actually.
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I have seen those. Tall cone wheel locks this week, deep socket extractor next week. It's a never-ending circle of building a better mousetrap, but nowadays the mouse has youtube. I think those are the best option this week, but I am willing to bet a beer that in 9 months there is a method for getting those off that won't be that complicated.
 
ElkoNV said:
All wheel locks can be defeated. With battery-powered tools, these days thieves have a one-up. They can however make your vehicle just a little bit less appealing as a target. As for wanting to do bodily harm to the scum bag, I totally get that. As a CCW holder though for multiple states, if I caught someone stealing my wheels I am stepping back and calling the police. It is too easy to end up in jail these days while that same scumbags mom in on the news 24-7 telling the world what a great kid he was trying to help feed his family. Cowboy justice isn't worth not being around to send my own kids through college.
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The way it works in my eyes is the scumbags of the world don't have anything to lose. You or I on the other hand probably have a house/home and family that was acquired through years of hard work and concerns for the ones we love.
Already had a friend get involved in a confrontation with a shiiiit head. Shiiiiit head has a few capped teeth at my friend's expense and my friend never disclosed the final cost but I believe 1st lawyer was going to be 25K and switched to another that was 50K and civil settlement was not disclosed but may have been 100K.
Criminal case, civil case, demotion at work (reduced from a felony so he kept his job), community service and substantially reduced $$$.
Try to believe in Karma as the scales of judicial system are not always balanced.
Karma
Karma means action, work, or deed. The term also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect, often descriptively called the principle of karma, wherein intent and actions of an individual influence the future of that individual: good intent and good deeds contribute to good karma and happier rebirths, while bad intent and bad deeds contribute to bad karma and bad rebirths.
 
Jako said:
The way it works in my eyes is the scumbags of the world don't have anything to lose. You or I on the other hand probably have a house/home and family that was acquired through years of hard work and concerns for the ones we love.
Already had a friend get involved in a confrontation with a shiiiit head. Shiiiiit head has a few capped teeth at my friend's expense and my friend never disclosed the final cost but I believe 1st lawyer was going to be 25K and switched to another that was 50K and civil settlement was not disclosed but may have been 100K.
Criminal case, civil case, demotion at work (reduced from a felony so he kept his job), community service and substantially reduced $$$.
Try to believe in Karma as the scales of judicial system are not always balanced.
Karma
Karma means action, work, or deed. The term also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect, often descriptively called the principle of karma, wherein intent and actions of an individual influence the future of that individual: good intent and good deeds contribute to good karma and happier rebirths, while bad intent and bad deeds contribute to bad karma and bad rebirths.
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Some states prevent the criminal from being able to sue you but you better know the law in your state and decide if it's worth it.
Maybe hold them at gunpoint til LEO gets there
 
Jako, that's it. Worked hard all my life, never a handout. I now work a full a time job and started a side business to get my kids through college debt-free. I work about 65 hours a week between the two, and the wife works so I get to do all that and no stimulus checks for us, and now just forgive college debt. I am finding my zen, focusing on family, and toys too, I do like my toys, oh and dogs, you can tell a lot about a person by how they treat their pets. But yeah goodwill, honest people, honest life, Leave a positive mark on a life well lived that's my goal.
 
SD Rebel said:
Wouldn't this be small claims, so no attorney?
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In some states yes, but just because you win you still have to try to collect. The business next to ours covered one of my trucks in overspray, long story short went to court, they did not even show up so summary judgment could never collect. No debtors prison in the US. It is the working guy that gets screwed, I am still mad about that truck but the other business owner forgot about it a long time ago. Went bankrupt shafted all kinds of people and just got another job. As Jako said, let the universe deal with the scumbags.
 
Ellisstrong said:
These will not work on my wheel locks for certain. And by the time they try to hammer anything on any of my wheels the alarm shock sensor will make it go off.
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They'd work, you would just use a small one and slam it into the center shaft and crush that sleeve.

I don't think you guys understand these electric impacts can do 300+ lbs of torque and 80,000 impacts a second and they are nowhere near as loud as a air impact. With the right socket and a hammer you can wrench anything off with them. especially if you don't care too much about damage.
 
c3k said:
Sure, insurance is there. But so is civil court. The OP was robbed. The thief was arrested. Sue his ***.
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soooo...again, why pay for insurance?.... the odds that a scumbag like that even SHOWS up to a civil proceeding is laughable, almost as laughable as thinking that if he did he is going to actually pay you some settlement..please...
 
OldMarine said:
soooo...again, why pay for insurance?.... the odds that a scumbag like that even SHOWS up to a civil proceeding is laughable, almost as laughable as thinking that if he did he is going to actually pay you some settlement..please...
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Sigh.
You seem to be missing the point.
It is not to "just let insurance pay for it": It's to make that scumbag have to pay back (if he ever has a job) what he's done. Garnish his wages. Put a lien on his house. Make his family, immediate and extended, feel the pressure as payment processors call them.

I had a vehicle stolen. The scum were caught on camera, fingerprints, known juvenile delinquents now adults. They totalled my vehicle. The police and prosecution said it's a victimless crime: I have insurance. Eff that. Eff them. Eff that system.

Find them and eff them right back.

Did you work for what you have? Should someone be able to take from you and "the system" pays you back?

What about deductible?

What about justice?

Sue the effers.
 
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