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Rear Heated & Ventilated Seat Connectors

If you are talking about the gray (10) and black (16) connectors --- they connect to the rear seats to power the heat/vent options...

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If you are talking about the gray (10) and black (16) connectors --- they connect to the rear seats to power the heat/vent options...

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Yes, the 10 and 16 pin connectors. I was asking, specifically WHAT do they plug in to. Doesn't seem they plug into the MODULE-SEAT COMFORT CONTROL-REAR. 4 connectors for it are C1, C2, C3 (5 pin connectors) and C4 is 8 pin.
Or, are there harnesses with branches that connect the 10 and 16 pin connectors to the four connectors for the module?
 
Here is my parts list the way you were sounding it’s like they were something else but if they are exactly like mine with same wires/connector they are heated and it possibly heated/vented. Mine is a 2022 so some of these parts might not be right for the 2020 just make sure you look at what it’ll fit and the description for your application.
Did you add the heat/vent to your rear seats? I just swapped a reclining rear seat into my truck. The recliner has heat pads; so not a lot to add to make it vented also. But, the seat seems to be well sealed. Wondering if I need to cut 'vents' for the blowers, or if there's enough leakage for cabin air to enter.
 
Did you add the heat/vent to your rear seats? I just swapped a reclining rear seat into my truck. The recliner has heat pads; so not a lot to add to make it vented also. But, the seat seems to be well sealed. Wondering if I need to cut 'vents' for the blowers, or if there's enough leakage for cabin air to enter.
I decided to forego doing this mod. I was only going to add heated seats. Wasn't feeling taking the seats apart. I decided to work on adding the factory power running boards.

Best of luck!
 
Did you add the heat/vent to your rear seats? I just swapped a reclining rear seat into my truck. The recliner has heat pads; so not a lot to add to make it vented also. But, the seat seems to be well sealed. Wondering if I need to cut 'vents' for the blowers, or if there's enough leakage for cabin air to enter.
I haven’t done it yet we are getting ready for a move so I haven’t done a few projects I want yet for my truck but my seats already have the vent holes in them.
 
I haven’t done it yet we are getting ready for a move so I haven’t done a few projects I want yet for my truck but my seats already have the vent holes in them.
OK. Just to be clear, I'm not asking about the perforation in the leather. I'm asking about air inlet holes in the bottom and back of the seats (around the fans). If your seat have air inlet holes can you attach a picture so I can see how to modify mine? Thanks. Brent
 
Not to hijack your guys thread, but seeing the OP got me thinking. I already have heated seats in the rear, is there a possibility I can simply get cooling as well?
 
Not to hijack your guys thread, but seeing the OP got me thinking. I already have heated seats in the rear, is there a possibility I can simply get cooling as well?
You can get it--but not simply. There's an earlier post on the thread about the PNs required. You need 4 bags, 4 blowers; different switches (Heat and Vent) , probably a different controller, and probably need to add 2 wires to the harness.
 
I swapped leather, heated '20 seats into my 2022 BH. I'm slowly (and even more slowly now-with UAW striking Stellantis Service Parts) acquiring parts to add vented to the junkyard seats I have. I've received some of the parts. I can't figure out how to add the vent bags and blowers. It doesn't seem to be intuitive. Does any one have pics, drawings, or anything of how to install the bags and blowers?
 
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It appears this is going to be tricky. I think I'll need to peel or cut the about 1/2" black foam (seat heater attached to it) away from the seat foam. The vent bag has adhesive on one side--the side with the vent holes. I can glue this to the underside of the black foam-once I have removed the black foam; hopefully without destroying it. But, there's no adhesive on the solid side of the bag. Guess I'll need to supply the adhesive to glue the bag to the seat foam. Will also need to cut some seat foam away where the blower connects to the bag. Anyone have a better way?
 

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It appears this is going to be tricky. I think I'll need to peel or cut the about 1/2" black foam (seat heater attached to it) away from the seat foam. The vent bag has adhesive on one side--the side with the vent holes. I can glue this to the underside of the black foam-once I have removed the black foam; hopefully without destroying it. But, there's no adhesive on the solid side of the bag. Guess I'll need to supply the adhesive to glue the bag to the seat foam. Will also need to cut some seat foam away where the blower connects to the bag. Anyone have a better way?
BUMP. Anyone have input on how to do this?
 
I gained a 115 Volt and a 12 Volt (I think) connector in the front of the console; a 115 Volt, 2 rear heated seat switches, and a USB power connector in the back. No USB/data terminal for the rear; so think I'll have charging only--which is fine. The original harness in my truck was PN...72
After adding this console wiring harness and the switches were you able to make the rear seat heaters function? My truck already has the wiring harness to the rear seats. Did you have to add a module or have any codes updated on the BCM?

Thanks for the help.
 
After adding this console wiring harness and the switches were you able to make the rear seat heaters function? My truck already has the wiring harness to the rear seats. Did you have to add a module or have any codes updated on the BCM?

Thanks for the help.
I have not gotten that far. My truck does not have the harnesses that go to the gray (10) and black (16) connectors . So far, I haven't found anyone who can build these harnesses. I've not even found wiring diagrams for them. I have pinouts; but don't where the wires route and connect to. The donor seat I installed is heated only. So, I THINK I need a different module for heat and vent. I posted earlier about not knowing how to add the vent bags to my seat, I seems the bags install between the "hard" foam and the about 1/2" thick open cell foam. I don't know if I can safely peel the open cell foam away from the hard foam and insert te vent bags? And, based on other posts in this thread; there's a concern about whether the codes can even be flashed to the BCM on 2022. Some posters have said the option was deleted for 2022 so can't be flashed to the truck?
 
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Ok, I didn't know about that site: but it sure would have been easier if I would have had a roadmap instead of "reverse engineering". Not sure I need it now-- I'm basically finished with what I intended to do; but I'll sure look into it. I guess my strategy was--I have a perfectly functioning brand new truck and I don't want to mess up anything, so I'll just add on. That said, as of today, I have working heated/vented seats, power passenger seat, and it appears the heated wheel will work as soon as I receive and install the clock spring. I'm also prewired for an inverter, and Memory function if I decide to implement it in the future.
I did receive and wire the clockspring. Heated/vented seats and heated steering wheel work. I did not need to flash anything. After I installed all the wires the hard buttons for heat/vent worked. I don't have soft buttons (without flashing); but I think I can live the rest of my life with just the hard buttons--probably prefer using them.
 
Yeah it sounds like you understand what you need to do to run the heated wiring. If you had the plugs built in like mine did then it’d be super easy you could just do a plug and play swap but it’ll def be some customization. But it shouldn’t be to hard if you have some experience post your pics and info afterwards it might help someone out. Also, I will do the same but I’m going to do it in a couple of months we are moving right now and I don’t need to spend money on non-essentials right now.
FRONT: I was able to get the front heated/vented, the power passenger, and the heated steering wheel working by transplanting about 30 wires from the donor harness to my truck. While I didn't install the Memory switch in the door, I did have to run about 6 (of the 30) wires to the seat module in order to get the drivers power seat to work. My original driver's seat was power; but not memory. I probably could have rewired the donor seat; but by running all the wires to the module, the driver's power functions worked.

REAR: I have changed the console harness and added the heat/vent switches for the rear seat. The donor harness did not have wires for the rear heat/vent seat. I have the pinouts for the 16 and 10 pin connectors; but I don't know where to run the wires from these connectors to the truck. I need wiring diagrams; or connector numbers and pin numbers to figure out where to run the wires. Would appreciate any info on that. And, more basic; I've read that it's not possible to flash rear heat/vented seats to a 2022. I'd really like to have an answer to that question before I start running wires. Thanks, Brent
 
FRONT: I was able to get the front heated/vented, the power passenger, and the heated steering wheel working by transplanting about 30 wires from the donor harness to my truck. While I didn't install the Memory switch in the door, I did have to run about 6 (of the 30) wires to the seat module in order to get the drivers power seat to work. My original driver's seat was power; but not memory. I probably could have rewired the donor seat; but by running all the wires to the module, the driver's power functions worked.

REAR: I have changed the console harness and added the heat/vent switches for the rear seat. The donor harness did not have wires for the rear heat/vent seat. I have the pinouts for the 16 and 10 pin connectors; but I don't know where to run the wires from these connectors to the truck. I need wiring diagrams; or connector numbers and pin numbers to figure out where to run the wires. Would appreciate any info on that. And, more basic; I've read that it's not possible to flash rear heat/vented seats to a 2022. I'd really like to have an answer to that question before I start running wires. Thanks, Brent
I have swapped TRX front and rear seats into my '23 BH. I had front heated and all the wiring was there already. The passenger seat did require me to run the B+ to the connection under the console. The wire was there at the passenger seat connection but not where it joins the body harness under the console.

I do not have any wiring for the rear seats, so I am interested in your attempts to create the rear seat heat/ventilation harness. I haven't dug into this too far as of yet. I bought the seats and the console, so I have the switches and the console is wired up as needed.
 
I have swapped TRX front and rear seats into my '23 BH. I had front heated and all the wiring was there already. The passenger seat did require me to run the B+ to the connection under the console. The wire was there at the passenger seat connection but not where it joins the body harness under the console.

I do not have any wiring for the rear seats, so I am interested in your attempts to create the rear seat heat/ventilation harness. I haven't dug into this too far as of yet. I bought the seats and the console, so I have the switches and the console is wired up as needed.
Yeah, they were really sneaky by "giving away" half that B+ wire and deleting the other half!

I contacted Jimmy07 this week. He said he could "probably" build the 2 harnesses for the rear seat. (I bought 4 sets of the 2 connectors {16 pin and 10 pin] and told him I can supply the connectors. He wanted pictures of the two connectors on my rear seat. Waiting for his response. I'm attaching the pinout for the two connectors, if that helps you. I had to change my console harness, buy a new rear end panel for my console, and add the switches; so you're way ahead there.

Even if I get the 2 harnesses, I'm going to have to figure out where the wires go to in the truck. For everything I've done so far, I reverse engineerd the donor body harness to figure out where to pin the wires into my truck. Do you have a wiring diagram for the rear seat wiring?
 

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Yeah, they were really sneaky by "giving away" half that B+ wire and deleting the other half!

I contacted Jimmy07 this week. He said he could "probably" build the 2 harnesses for the rear seat. (I bought 4 sets of the 2 connectors {16 pin and 10 pin] and told him I can supply the connectors. He wanted pictures of the two connectors on my rear seat. Waiting for his response. I'm attaching the pinout for the two connectors, if that helps you. I had to change my console harness, buy a new rear end panel for my console, and add the switches; so you're way ahead there.

Even if I get the 2 harnesses, I'm going to have to figure out where the wires go to in the truck. For everything I've done so far, I reverse engineerd the donor body harness to figure out where to pin the wires into my truck. Do you have a wiring diagram for the rear seat wiring?
Nice, sounds like solid progress. I will be happy to buy this from Jimmy07 once it is all figured out.
 
Nice, sounds like solid progress. I will be happy to buy this from Jimmy07 once it is all figured out.
This week, I bought a heated/vented/reclining rear seat. I already have one that's heated/reclining. I bought most of the parts to add vent to it. I was stumped on how to install the vent bags. After seeing the one I just bought, I see that the vent bags attach at the bottom/back of the seat foams. So now that I've learned that, I'll have a heat/vent/recline seat for sale! Anyway, one of the reasons I bought another seat was to get the wire harnesses from the donor truck. I was allowed to go on the lot to show the dismantler what I needed. He was very reluctant to remove the harnesses--just wanted to cut a pigtail. He agreed to try; but I was not allowed to stay with him while he worked. When the harnesses were brought out, I was elated. I thought he got all of them. But now, I see only a ground wire is intact; and there's a slew of wires that he cut. I know where a few go; but can't find anything about where to connect Heater Controls, Vent Motors, Sensor Returns, and Temp Sense wires.
 

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This week, I bought a heated/vented/reclining rear seat. I already have one that's heated/reclining. I bought most of the parts to add vent to it. I was stumped on how to install the vent bags. After seeing the one I just bought, I see that the vent bags attach at the bottom/back of the seat foams. So now that I've learned that, I'll have a heat/vent/recline seat for sale! Anyway, one of the reasons I bought another seat was to get the wire harnesses from the donor truck. I was allowed to go on the lot to show the dismantler what I needed. He was very reluctant to remove the harnesses--just wanted to cut a pigtail. He agreed to try; but I was not allowed to stay with him while he worked. When the harnesses were brought out, I was elated. I thought he got all of them. But now, I see only a ground wire is intact; and there's a slew of wires that he cut. I know where a few go; but can't find anything about where to connect Heater Controls, Vent Motors, Sensor Returns, and Temp Sense wires.
Wow. We just need to trace the wires from the rear seat to the nearest junction. Color by color. We may end up having to splice into existing wires.
 

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