Ram Pulls The Covers Off Of The Updated 2025 Ram 1500

[1791]

I mean "for the money" you can get a used 3rd gen, with every option, cheaper than a brand new Tradesman.

i was going to but someone got it b4 me......2016 with 50k mi for 26500 i was not happy about it

 

[1791]

Negative

sorry i ment thr wagoneer

 

[jimothy]

ETA: And I see the Hemi still offered in the high trim Grand Wagoneers along with the 510 Hurricane.

Where did you get that information? Starting with the 2924 model year, the Hurricane is the only engine for both Wagoneer (S.O.) and Grand Wagoneer (H.O.). And for 2023, the Henis were offered only in the lowest trims of each. Only the 2022s had Hemis in the high trims (since the Hurricane wasn’t yet available).

 

[WXman]

I'm a Ford guy as well historically, sad to see one of the main reasons why I went with RAM going away. However, I know this is sacrilage for us Ford dudes, but have you looked at the Silverado lately?

Substantially improved interior, choice of two different V8s, and a much higher rated dealership service network than CDJR dealership service. I plan on keeping my Rebel a while, absolutely best new truck I've owned, but if not the Rebel or TRX in my future, maybe a Trail Boss or ZR2?

GM has come a LONG way. They always had the ugliest truck on the road both exterior and interior as well as the worst reliability and engineering. But the brand new ones shock me. They have come so far in such a short time.

 

[Brutal_HO]

Where did you get that information? Starting with the 2924 model year, the Hurricane is the only engine for both Wagoneer (S.O.) and Grand Wagoneer (H.O.). And for 2023, the Henis were offered only in the lowest trims of each. Only the 2022s had Hemis in the high trims (since the Hurricane wasn’t yet available).

You're right, I was looking at 2023.

That said, only the 2 Obsidian trims show both engines available.

 

[Shuga]

The fact that they put a V6 in this is disgusting

 

[Chippy]

Regarding comparison of Ram to Chev the latter is always way more expensive the only thing a Rebel is missing compared to a ZR2 is the front diff locker. A fully optioned Rebel is way less and still a nicer truck.

 

[HSKR R/T]

The fact that they put a V6 in this is disgusting

There has always been a V6 option for the Ram. Or did you mean I6?

 

[SD Rebel]

Regarding comparison of Ram to Chev the latter is always way more expensive the only thing a Rebel is missing compared to a ZR2 is the front diff locker. A fully optioned Rebel is way less and still a nicer truck.

Well, to be honest, a front diff locker is kinda a big thing in the off-roading world. Also, the ZR2 comes with Multimatic's active adaptive dampers, which is also a big upgrade over the what the Rebel has.

Also, for 2025, you can only have a six cylinder in the Rebel whereas you can get a 6.2L V8 in the ZR2 or even a Diesel. Considering the high-output version of the Hurricane isn't going to be available in the Rebel, it's another advantage for the ZR2 there as well.

The ZR2 straddles the line between the TRX/Raptor and the Rebel/Trail Boss/TRD Pro/Tremor. It's not quite in the dinosaur predator class, but clearly above the warmed-over off-road trims. I do believe it's overpriced for what you get, eye wateringly expensive, but then again so is everything at this time.

 

[jimothy]

Also, for 2025, you can only have a six cylinder in the Rebel whereas you can get a 6.2L V8 in the ZR2 or even a Diesel. Considering the high-output version of the Hurricane isn't going to be available in the Rebel, it's another advantage for the ZR2 there as well.

We’ll have to wait for the RHO for the high output Hurricane in an off-road truck. But that will compete with the Raptor more so than the ZR2.

 

[EAnderson]

The fact that they put a V6 in this is disgusting

They arent. Its an inline 6.

 

[Darksteel165]

They arent. Its an inline 6.

You can still get it in a v6 Pentastar.

 

[JExpedition07]

Well, to be honest, a front diff locker is kinda a big thing in the off-roading world. Also, the ZR2 comes with Multimatic's active adaptive dampers, which is also a big upgrade over the what the Rebel has.

Also, for 2025, you can only have a six cylinder in the Rebel whereas you can get a 6.2L V8 in the ZR2 or even a Diesel. Considering the high-output version of the Hurricane isn't going to be available in the Rebel, it's another advantage for the ZR2 there as well.

The ZR2 straddles the line between the TRX/Raptor and the Rebel/Trail Boss/TRD Pro/Tremor. It's not quite in the dinosaur predator class, but clearly above the warmed-over off-road trims. I do believe it's overpriced for what you get, eye wateringly expensive, but then again so is everything at this time.

The 2024 Ford F-150 Tremor comes with the 5.0L V8 putting out 400 HP/410 LB FT. It also has dual exhaust, they sound quite good. Also offers a front Torsen as an option. So both GM and Ford have a V8 off roader on offer.

 

[Howardlv22]

That Ram makes the distinction that the HO version has only 1,370 lbs payload confirms it will only be available on Limited-ish trims and TRX/RHO. Not unlike the HO versions of the EcoBoost only available in Limited and Raptor trims.

They didn't need to even call that out this early in the launch but they have, so its pretty well set in stone.

Gotta say I was being an optimist, and a fair bit of me was sure they'd retain the Hemi.


But as I mentioend elsewhere, I think the Ramcharger is the way to go in this new generation:

Once the HEMI is gone, so, too is the soul.

And at that point, do we really care whether the 6 cylinder is augmented by turbos, or whether it is augmenting a battery?

Once the soul leaves, its only about on-paper performance and comfort.

The PHEV Ramcharger seems like it would do better what the new ICE version set out to do - be a more efficient, more powerful, more comfortable appliance with a bed.


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That said I'm doubling down on my search for a Gen5.0 with Hemi.
But I am open to these new options down the road.

Why I just picked up a 2024 Rebel with the hemi so I can have one last huraaahh with the v8

 

[Howardlv22]

the I-6 is already in the grand cherokee. i got a used truck because all the new trucks had that dang e-torque trash. really for the money you can get a higher trim used truck for the same money.

I’m curious of your hate towards the etorque. It was new when I stopped selling them so I only have my own experience but after 100k (used to travel with my truck for my business) on two hemis of my own and my business partners hemi, all e torque and zero issues, what’s the problem with them? Genuinely asking. I towed heavy, ran around town, towed across state borders, romped them in the mud and sand and snow, was kinda hard on them.

 

[firecadet613]

I’m curious of your hate towards the etorque. It was new when I stopped selling them so I only have my own experience but after 100k (used to travel with my truck for my business) on two hemis of my own and my business partners hemi, all e torque and zero issues, what’s the problem with them? Genuinely asking. I towed heavy, ran around town, towed across state borders, romped them in the mud and sand and snow, was kinda hard on them.

Do a search on here. Many more problems with the eTorque system, the generator will fail or the batteries. Why get that unnecessary system when you don't need it?

I bought a used '19 vs ordering a new '23 to avoid it...

 

[Howardlv22]

Do a search on here. Many more problems with the eTorque system, the generator will fail or the batteries. Why get that unnecessary system when you don't need it?

I bought a used '19 vs ordering a new '23 to avoid it...

Hmm, well I’ve only had great experiences. But I’ll read about it just to avoid any issues, I expect great things from my 2024 etorque. Expecting the worse can’t help. Thanks for the info

 

[Chippy]

Well, to be honest, a front diff locker is kinda a big thing in the off-roading world. Also, the ZR2 comes with Multimatic's active adaptive dampers, which is also a big upgrade over the what the Rebel has.

Also, for 2025, you can only have a six cylinder in the Rebel whereas you can get a 6.2L V8 in the ZR2 or even a Diesel. Considering the high-output version of the Hurricane isn't going to be available in the Rebel, it's another advantage for the ZR2 there as well.

The ZR2 straddles the line between the TRX/Raptor and the Rebel/Trail Boss/TRD Pro/Tremor. It's not quite in the dinosaur predator class, but clearly above the warmed-over off-road trims. I do believe it's overpriced for what you get, eye wateringly expensive, but then again so is everything at this time.

I’m not for a second stating the Rebel is as much of an off road truck as a ZR2 but for most the Rebel is more than needed at a huge price difference. Let’s be honest for most these trucks are too big and long for serious off road the gladiator and Colorado do better and that still not as good as a Jeep.

 

[SpeedyV]

Hmm, well I’ve only had great experiences. But I’ll read about it just to avoid any issues, I expect great things from my 2024 etorque. Expecting the worse can’t help. Thanks for the info

Very few eTorque issues relative to production, and it’s not seen as one of the “common issues” on these trucks. My 2019 (built in summer ‘18) is doing fine, as are most.

 

[Howardlv22]

Very few eTorque issues relative to production, and it’s not seen as one of the “common issues” on these trucks. My 2019 (built in summer ‘18) is doing fine, as are most.

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