Nav Map OTA Updates Disabled

[Darksteel165]

Expecting that is foolish. It takes months of lead time to order parts to be available to install them on the assembly line. Same goes for almost anything you buy in a store today - it was made months ago before you get your hands on it.

That makes 0 sense. Each new truck goes through a pre delivery checklist at the selling dealership.
I don't think it's wrong to have the current software placed on the truck as part of this checklist, software that is ONLY used to fix bugs and problems with the truck not add new features.

That's like buying a truck that has an active recall on it because the dealership is too lazy to do the recall and just assumes you will not need a working air bag if you get into a crash or will realize they never did their job before you need it and force them to.

 

[HSKR R/T]

That makes 0 sense. Each new truck goes through a pre delivery checklist at the selling dealership.
I don't think it's wrong to have the current software placed on the truck as part of this checklist, software that is ONLY used to fix bugs and problems with the truck not add new features.

That's like buying a truck that has an active recall on it because the dealership is too lazy to do the recall and just assumes you will not need a working air bag if you get into a crash or will realize they never did their job before you need it and force them to.

It's actually illegal for a dealership to sell a vehicle with an active recall.

As for the software, map update aside, dealerships can't actually pull software and install it without there being a complaint. Most are tied to TSB about specific issues that have to be mentioned when requesting the files.

 

[Darksteel165]

It's actually illegal for a dealership to sell a vehicle with an active recall.

As for the software, map update aside, dealerships can't actually pull software and install it without there being a complaint. Most are tied to TSB about specific issues that have to be mentioned when requesting the files.

It could be added to the PDI easily.

 

[User_3336]

It could be added to the PDI easily.

Why would the dealer want to spend an extra 30-40 minutes to update maps, or UC for that matter.?

 

[Darksteel165]

Why would the dealer want to spend an extra 30-40 minutes to update maps, or UC for that matter.?

Wow

 

[User_3336]

Wow

Wow what? Although the dealer gets paid for a PDI thru the manufacturer, why would a dealer want to spend an additional 40 minutes updating software when it really wasn't a required part of the PDI anyway?

 

[vtcats]

I think in todays modern age of digital everything (which is basically my current Limited), yes it (latest maps and U5 firmware) SHOULD part of a dealerships checklist. More so if it’s something they may even charge for down the road.
But obviously it’s not. But who knows, maybe current dealerships (like Mark Dodge whom I purchased from) will see and hear from people who feel this way and decide it will be another feather in their cap to stand out and give people additional reasons of why to purchase from them.
Regardless, I ordered a thumb drive as my current supply are too small and downloaded the latest map. I’ll attempt to update this week.

 

[HSKR R/T]

I think in todays modern age of digital everything (which is basically my current Limited), yes it (latest maps and U5 firmware) SHOULD part of a dealerships checklist. More so if it’s something they may even charge for down the road.
But obviously it’s not. But who knows, maybe current dealerships (like Mark Dodge whom I purchased from) will see and hear from people who feel this way and decide it will be another feather in their cap to stand out and give people additional reasons of why to purchase from them.
Regardless, I ordered a thumb drive as my current supply are too small and downloaded the latest map. I’ll attempt to update this week.

Also, in the modern age of OTA updates, making dealers check software/firmware versions upon delivery is redundant. If there is an applicable update the vehicle needs, it should be done automatically. Granted, there have been issues with the 2024 models and OTA updates freezing and causing battery drain

 

[Darksteel165]

Wow what? Although the dealer gets paid for a PDI thru the manufacturer, why would a dealer want to spend an additional 40 minutes updating software when it really wasn't a required part of the PDI anyway?

It's 2 minutes. Put the usb in and start the update then do the rest of the PDI, by the time the PDI is done updates will be done.
This is not rocket science.

 

[User_3336]

It's 2 minutes. Put the usb in and start the update then do the rest of the PDI, by the time the PDI is done updates will be done.
This is not rocket science.

Maybe dealers just don't use that logic?

 

[Darksteel165]

Maybe dealers just don't use that logic?

Dealers do bare minimum. And doing any kind of updates is not required by them by Ram.

 

[HSKR R/T]

It's 2 minutes. Put the usb in and start the update then do the rest of the PDI, by the time the PDI is done updates will be done.
This is not rocket science.

That would require knowing what is already installed in the vehicle and being able to then get the correct revision needed. And they don't keep software saved in their computers. When they download it at dealer for install, it's based on vin, and a one time install. Not sure how people are getting the files that we have been downloading from Google drives to install ourselves

 

[User_3336]

That would require knowing what is already installed in the vehicle and being able to then get the correct revision needed. And they don't keep software saved in their computers. When they download it at dealer for install, it's based on vin, and a one time install. Not sure how people are getting the files that we have been downloading from Google drives to install ourselves

NAV maps for UC5 have been available here for a while. Its a 17GB download onto a thumb drive.

Last update 12.2023.

https://stellantis.navshop.com/#/downloads

 

[HSKR R/T]

NAV maps for UC5 have been available here for a while. Its a 17GB download onto a thumb drive.

Last update 12.2023.

https://stellantis.navshop.com/#/downloads

It's more than just the Nav updates that were being discussed. You can download UC5 Nav updates for free from RAM.

 

[User_3336]

It's more than just the Nav updates that were being discussed. You can download UC5 Nav updates for free from RAM.

Well, "NAV updates" are in the thread header, and I just posted the link for free UC5 NAV updates in post 34.
What do you think the link I posted was for?

 

[HSKR R/T]

Well, "NAV updates" are in the thread header, and I just posted the link for free UC5 NAV updates in post 34.
What do you think the link I posted was for?

Well, I wasn't even replying to your comment, the discussion had moved on to the dealer updating software during PDI, and not just map updates.

 

[User_3336]

Well, I wasn't even replying to your comment, the discussion had moved on to the dealer updating software during PDI, and not just map updates.

you did reply to my comment in post 34.

 

[Darksteel165]

Well, I wasn't even replying to your comment, the discussion had moved on to the dealer updating software during PDI, and not just map updates.

Map updates are software...

 

[HSKR R/T]

Map updates are software...

Thank you Captain obvious

 

[HSKR R/T]

you did reply to my comment in post 34.

Because you replied to my previous reply about dealers doing software updates as part of PDI, that want to you. And wasn't about nav updates.