My PPE transmission pan: the good, the bad, and the ugly.

[HSKR R/T]

I just did the third drain, so that I could swap out the o-ring on the drain plug. (Drain 1 was the pan swap. Drain 2 was the leaking gasket that I re-used...due to the instructions. Sigh. I used a new o-ring then, a brown viton one. and that leaks.)

Drain resulted in 4 1/2 quarts coming out. (Remember, the PPE pan I have states that it adds one quart to the capacity.) YMMV.

When I removed the drain plug, the viton o-ring was bound up in the threads. I am SURE that it went on smoothly. Shrug.

I've done 3 drain and fills. I have a new pan on (with a second gasket). The drain plug is on its third O-ring: first was PPE's green; second was Viton brown (from PPE) that leaked; third is another Viton brown (from PPE).

I also flushed the brake fluid. Thinking about coolant...

I foresee three brake fluid flushed and four coolant flushes in your future. Just to keep the trend going.

 

[Quark]

My newly arrived ppe pan came with an oem mopar gasket.

 

[c3k]

My newly arrived ppe pan came with an oem mopar gasket.

I sent a thread link to PPE's customer service. I never got word back from them. Maybe they read it and are making a change?

Regardless, glad to hear you got what is needed to do a pan swap.

 

[c3k]

Good news: about 1,400 miles of driving and no leaking or seeping.

Call this one put to bed.

(It's just a bonus I swapped fluid 3 times.)

 

[Paco]

Just to confirm PPE Does make a pan for New 2020-2024 Dodge Ram eco diesel.???

Checked there website and lists a pan for 2014-2018 Eco diesel???.
Would like to swap out my pan for a PPE replacement.
Thanks.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Just to confirm PPE Does make a pan for New 2020-2024 Dodge Ram eco diesel.???

Checked there website and lists a pan for 2014-2018 Eco diesel???.
Would like to swap out my pan for a PPE replacement.
Thanks.

If you are taking transmission pan, yes, the transmission is the same. Engine oil pan, probably not

 

[70runner]

My newly arrived ppe pan came with an oem mopar gasket.

Interesting. Their website doesn't mention the pan gasket for either 1 or 2 quart version. Their install pdf says to save the original gasket.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Interesting. Their website doesn't mention the pan gasket for either 1 or 2 quart version. Their install pdf says to save the original gasket.

Probably depends on where you order from. Some places may bundle them

 

[PurpleRT]

Mine was ordered from xtreme diesel and dropped shipped directly from PPE.. no gasket but I already assumed it wasn’t gonna come with one since well inflation and went ahead and had one ordered and sitting here before the pan arrived so I would go ahead and plan on ordering one.


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[FrankJV]

Any reason why you chose the ppe pan over the B&M pan?

 

[c3k]

Any reason why you chose the ppe pan over the B&M pan?

Because I didn't know about the B&M pan...and still don't.

Linkee linkee? Reviews?

 

[silver billet]

Because I didn't know about the B&M pan...and still don't.

Linkee linkee? Reviews?

Thanks for your writeup! So I'm trying to get the parts together from what you listed in your posts on the first page, does this look right to you?

PPE Pan:

2013-2025 RAM/Dodge/Jeep/BMW ZF 8-Speed Heavy-Duty Cast Aluminum Deep Transmission Pan

ZF Cast Aluminum Deep Transmission Pan 8-Speed, 13-25 RAM/Dodge/Jeep/BMW, The PPE ZF 8-Speed Pan regulates the transmission heat and keeps the transmission fluid viscosity in a desirable range

ppepower.com

Mopar Gasket (possibly not needed as per @Quark )

Mopar 68172556AA ZF 8 Speed Automatic Transmission Pan Gasket

Mopar 68172556AA 8 Speed Automatic Transmission Oil Pan Gasket for the 8HP45, 8HP50 ,8HP70, 8HP75 ZF 8 Speed is required for the transmission service. This Mopar ZF Series 8 Speed Automatic Transmission Pan Gasket ensures a leak-free service of your 2001 to 2025 ZF Series 8 Speed Automatic...

klmperformance.com

PPE Filters (the PPE Pan comes with one filter, this is for additional/future servicing)

8HP70 PPE Transmission Pan Filter

8HP70 PPE Transmission Pan Filter (228058600) Applications: 2013-2018 Ram 1500 ZF 8HP70 Transmission V6, V8 and Eco Diesel

ppepower.com

PPE O-rings:

O-Ring for 1 inch Drain-Fill Plug

O-Ring for 1 inch Drain/Fill Plug (128051002)

ppepower.com

I'm left confused about the o-rings, I can't figure out whether you ended up with the ones I posted right above or not. You said you cleaned a green o-ring and reinstalled, not sure which one was leaking and which one you ended up with.

 

[c3k]

Thanks for your writeup! So I'm trying to get the parts together from what you listed in your posts on the first page, does this look right to you?

PPE Pan:

2013-2025 RAM/Dodge/Jeep/BMW ZF 8-Speed Heavy-Duty Cast Aluminum Deep Transmission Pan

ZF Cast Aluminum Deep Transmission Pan 8-Speed, 13-25 RAM/Dodge/Jeep/BMW, The PPE ZF 8-Speed Pan regulates the transmission heat and keeps the transmission fluid viscosity in a desirable range

ppepower.com

Mopar Gasket (possibly not needed as per @Quark )

Mopar 68172556AA ZF 8 Speed Automatic Transmission Pan Gasket

Mopar 68172556AA 8 Speed Automatic Transmission Oil Pan Gasket for the 8HP45, 8HP50 ,8HP70, 8HP75 ZF 8 Speed is required for the transmission service. This Mopar ZF Series 8 Speed Automatic Transmission Pan Gasket ensures a leak-free service of your 2001 to 2025 ZF Series 8 Speed Automatic...

klmperformance.com

PPE Filters (the PPE Pan comes with one filter, this is for additional/future servicing)

8HP70 PPE Transmission Pan Filter

8HP70 PPE Transmission Pan Filter (228058600) Applications: 2013-2018 Ram 1500 ZF 8HP70 Transmission V6, V8 and Eco Diesel

ppepower.com

PPE O-rings:

O-Ring for 1 inch Drain-Fill Plug

O-Ring for 1 inch Drain/Fill Plug (128051002)

ppepower.com

I'm left confused about the o-rings, I can't figure out whether you ended up with the ones I posted right above or not. You said you cleaned a green o-ring and reinstalled, not sure which one was leaking and which one you ended up with.

Yep, that all looks right! You have the deep pan, so you (correctly) added the deep-neck filter. (One is included with the pan, btw.) The viton 1" o-rings are the ones that fit the drain port.

You're good to go. Your setup will add ~2 quarts over the stock fill (deep pan). ("normal" PPE pan is already 1 quart bigger than stock ZF pan. Deep PPE is 2 quarts bigger.)

As to o-rings, I ended up using 2 of the viton rings. The original green ring (comes on the drain plug) leaked. I pulled the drain plug prior to install to check for o-ring being there. It was. (I am 99.999% sure I lubed it...but you never know. I checked, since there was no pan gasket, so I didn't know what other shortcuts may have been taken on the pan.) Anyhow, I reinstalled the plug with the green ring, put the new pan on, and had a leak.

I then drained it all out and put on a brown ring. It, too, leaked. When I pulled the plug, the gasket had been threaded into it. That's gotta be on me. No idea how. I've installed thousands of gaskets and never seen anything like what it looked like when I removed the plug. Shrug.

Third plug gasket (the second brown one) worked.

 

[Syrio]

I just purchased the deep pan brushed part # 228053010 for my 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 hemi .. but inside the box it says it fits the 8HP70 Eco Diesel. I pulled up my build sheet and it says my truck has the 8HP75 transmission which appears to be the regular brushed pan part # 228053410 .... When you go to the regular pan it says its for the 8HP70 & 8HP75 ...

 

[Rebob0510]

Question to the OP, in the instructions it says to retain the stock bolts and flange collars for the install of the new pan. Do the flange collars simply press out of the old pan? I am hopefully installing my PPE pan next weekend

 

[PurpleRT]

Whats a flange collar? Im assuming maybe a washer… either way you just remove the old bolts and reuse them there’s nothing to press out.


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[Rebob0510]

Whats a flange collar? Im assuming maybe a washer… either way you just remove the old bolts and reuse them there’s nothing to press out.


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The holes in the PPE pan appear to be huge for the stock bolts, The stock pan looks to have steel inserts in the pan. While reading the directions for the PPE pan it refers a few times to the "stock flange collars" and I was assuming it was those? I could be wrong tho

 

[PurpleRT]

The stock pan style gasket goes around the bolt holes sealing it once the bolts are tightened. I didn’t use these flange collars. I suppose it wouldn’t hurt and would just take up the difference between the bolt and hole basically just a spacer. You should be able to just knock them out and back in with a light tap from a rubber mallet. Maybe I should have read the instructions or maybe the pan was revised where no longer needed but hey no leaks so far lol.

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[Rebob0510]

I bought a new OEM pan gasket and installed that into the pan and thought to myself "damn those holes in the pan look big" lol. Once I get the stock pan off ill see how hard they are to come out, if they fight me Ill do what you did and bolt up and torque it down haha.

 

[Nsleone]

I used factory bolts on the PPE pan without those collars and I’ve got zero leaks over 20k miles later