Is the "hemi tick" still a thing in the latest models?

[Scram1500]

I thought hemi tick was when you develop a twitch after a visit to the dealership and being subjected to their stellar customer care

 

[silver billet]

The aftermarket headers are not an option for me since I live in Komifornia.

Shorty's should be legal in California.(?)

 

[CaptainCJ35]

If mine goes again definitely going with headers stainless something less ridged than cast iron., ,,,,Where I bought the truck they said if its bolted to the motor its under power train warranty, because it is a documented problem to avoid class action suit cheaper to fix it ,but anything after the flange isnt covered it took about an hour or more of phone calls they have been getting away with charging people before I walked in there and I am sure they will do it if no one says anything !
Artie

Seems more of a dealer "problem" getting it fixed than a RAM problem. Sure RAM designed the Hemi to have aluminum heads and cast iron manifolds creating the "tick" issue... but the dealers seem to be bilking customers to get it fixed. Nice "create a problem to have people pay you to fix it" feedback loop for them.

 

[Redfour5]

This is interesting. I took my 19' to the dealer where I bought it. The dealer offered a 200K/20 powertrain warranty when I bought it but said exhaust is not covered on the warranty. My truck was "one of the early 2019's (August production)" and did not have the upgraded bolts that they started to use in late september. Long story short, I have replaced nearly all bolts on the passenger side from the back to front. The most recent was all but one of my manifold bolts broke and when the quoted the work, they said the Driver side was easier and would be $550 for parts and labor (new manifold, gasket, studs) and passenger side was $1000 because it was the more difficult side. Luckily Mopar sent me a coupon for 20% off parts and labor. If my driver side starts to act up, Im going to a muffler shop and replacing the entire system.

New bolts? News to me. Glad to hear it.

 

[Gemlin]

My 2019 Hemi (New Body style) had the dreaded hemi tick at 49k miles. (Not the exhaust bolt/cracked manifold) but the lifter/camshaft failure. Ended up the dealer replaced the motor. After getting the motor replaced, less than 2000 miles later, the engine is knocking again, just like previously. Doesn't ever go away, only gets louder as the engine gets warmer. Back to the dealer again. I'm waiting to hear if they are going to replace the motor again.

 

[ArtieD]

My 2019 Hemi (New Body style) had the dreaded hemi tick at 49k miles. (Not the exhaust bolt/cracked manifold) but the lifter/camshaft failure. Ended up the dealer replaced the motor. After getting the motor replaced, less than 2000 miles later, the engine is knocking again, just like previously. Doesn't ever go away, only gets louder as the engine gets warmer. Back to the dealer again. I'm waiting to hear if they are going to replace the motor again.

Was it a new motor ? because they usually give you a recondition motor , not new , like your old block will be rebuilt and sent to somebody else with a motor problem ,

 

[Gemlin]

Was it a new motor ? because they usually give you a recondition motor , not new , like your old block will be rebuilt and sent to somebody else with a motor problem ,

FCA warrantied a new long block. Metal contamination is the reason. Even the paperwork shows new longblock.

The replacement longblock failed with less than 2k miles on it. Lifter ate the cam. Dealer ordered a new longblock again and hopefully by end of week my truck will be fixed.

 

[Jefferym70]

Just took to dealer for exhaust noise heard by service tech for oil change (Pennzoil 5-20 syN). Dealer found crack in driver side manifold. 24k old man’s truck. No heavy hauling and mixed city and highway. Absolutely love the truck but bummed that this showed up and known issue. Waiting for part with patience.

2020 Limited with the works!

After 1 week, manifold replaced. Assured the passenger side was ok (driver side replaced). Maybe I just worry too much but concerned that this is a known issue that has been allowed to move to the “cost of doing busInness” column rather than true resolution. May need to work on a plan b.

 

[rubrduk]

Shorty's should be legal in California.(?)

shorty's should be,...I believe as long as the cats stay in their original location (not further away or closer inline), you can also change the cats...but again, they have to be a suitable replacement in the original location (some people use aftermarket cats from corvettes)

To be honest, I don't think you would ever have a single problem passing inspection if the pipes are black and your cats are in the right places, I did it for years.

It's a gray area, but then again I drove a WRX will full exhaust for 10 years (i had a single hi-flow cat because the cat-delete smell is a dead giveaway and it does nothing to increase HP on sub 500hp cars),...I'd just swap in the factory downpipe with factory cats every 2 years to pass the smog and never had any problems. The WRX had at least 8-10 non-CA legal mods,...but I never had a problem once because I kept everything black and stealthy.

CA car laws are what you make of them,....you can easily make 600-800hp on most builds and still be CA smog-legal. I spent the first 27 years of my life in the midwest with no smog laws to speak of...and after living in SoCal for nearly 18 years with big, scary, restrictive laws, I don't ever want to leave because the quality of life is significantly better and there's no rust, so cars last forever here.

 

[Jefferym70]

After 1 week, manifold replaced. Assured the passenger side was ok (driver side replaced). Maybe I just worry too much but concerned that this is a known issue that has been allowed to move to the “cost of doing busInness” column rather than true resolution. May need to work on a plan b.

plan B, new 2021 F150 platinum. Best of luck all! Had f150 Platinum with 130k miles with no big issues. Bought Ram Limited to replace the 2015 Ford. Signing out, best of luck all down the road (I know there will be some blow back on here regarding but so be it).

 

[Fatherof3]

plan B, new 2021 F150 platinum. Best of luck all! Had f150 Platinum with 130k miles with no big issues. Bought Ram Limited to replace the 2015 Ford. Signing out, best of luck all down the road (I know there will be some blow back on here regarding but so be it).

No blow back from me . You have to do what you feel is right for you . I wish you all the best with your new F150 and hope you stick around to give a review of it .

 

[silver billet]

plan B, new 2021 F150 platinum. Best of luck all! Had f150 Platinum with 130k miles with no big issues. Bought Ram Limited to replace the 2015 Ford. Signing out, best of luck all down the road (I know there will be some blow back on here regarding but so be it).

No block back from me for buying a Ford, buy what you like. But losing all that money and tax on a trade is not the financially smart decision, you would have spent far far less putting shorty headers on or machining down the manifolds, both are which are permanent fixes.

 

[Orion10182011]

Lots of causes for what people call "HEMI tick" anything from fuel injectors cycling (normal) to lifter eating cam lobe (Bad & rare).

The Internet is good and bad, HEMI tick hysteria is an example of bad...

 

[66Fuelie]

Mine has 25K miles and no tick yet.
Tom

 

[ferraiolo1]

They all tick. Some people notice it more than others.


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[Redfour5]

Lots of causes for what people call "HEMI tick" anything from fuel injectors cycling (normal) to lifter eating cam lobe (Bad & rare).

The Internet is good and bad, HEMI tick hysteria is an example of bad...

I never had "hysteria" over it, as I had the 110K power train warranty on my 2015. It's my understanding that FCA went to the 60K warranty specifically because they were tired of paying to fix the tick. My dealership has a guy mostly "dedicated" to fixing the most common cause and replacing the bolts in the cover. He said that was an art unto itself and he was apparently very good at minimizing extra damage associated with that process and therefore involving more expensive warranty fixes. He noted it primarily related to a dissimilar metals problem that was originally design related. He said he personally had done an after market fix using parts you can get that are titanium and not vulnerable to the stresses. I can't remember specifics. He felt FCA did a study and figured the costs of the warranty fixes was manageable compared to a systemic design fix particularly as they knew its days were numbered anyway. The Hemi has been considered old school tech for at least a decade rumble notwithstanding.. I had heard but no evidence that they did start using some better bolts or something there around 2018/19 to mitigate the aggravating problem...to the bean counters..along with that reduction in warranty from 100K miles to 60 in 2016.

I had mine done twice once around 30K miles on one side and then again just over 60K miles both sides on my 2015... (Remember that warranty change by FCA?) Both of mine were covered by warranty. So, I had no hysteria. Now if they were not covered by warranty...might have been a different story considering what it would have cost.

And so now, apparently they have quit making hemis and we all get a six banger straight up...

 

[Tinshield]

Amazing how certain issues continue over multiple model years. If manifolds are cracking than fix the issue instead of continuing to build them. How much does it cost to keep fixing them vs. a proper redesign/spec?

 

[NRitland2]

Amazing how certain issues continue over multiple model years. If manifolds are cracking than fix the issue instead of continuing to build them. How much does it cost to keep fixing them vs. a proper redesign/spec?

Enough to make a business decision to reduce the warranty time and fix whatever engines contract the “tick”. If the Hemi wasn't going the way of the dodo then your question would be extremely valid!

 

[SD Rebel]

What's interesting is that I was in a Jack N Box drive thru and once I got up to the menu speaker thing, I heard some alarming "ticking" from my truck. Once I drove away from the menu wall, it sounded fine.

I suspect the normal fuel injector sound was reverberating/magnified from the menu. I got out later and listened to the engine from the outside, then popped the hood and listened a bit closer. It was clearly the fuel injectors doing their thing.

 

[Tinshield]

What's interesting is that I was in a Jack N Box drive thru and once I got up to the menu speaker thing, I heard some alarming "ticking" from my truck. Once I drove away from the menu wall, it sounded fine.

I suspect the normal fuel injector sound was reverberating/magnified from the menu. I got out later and listened to the engine from the outside, then popped the hood and listened a bit closer. It was clearly the fuel injectors doing their thing.

Drive Thru's usually position you against the building where the sound is going to be bouncing back at you