F150 Owner Bought a Ram Limited.......Dissapointed.

[St-na]

You haven't noticed it, but they pretty much all have it. The dealer just knows it's normal. After sitting overnight, try remote starting it, while standing in front of it. It will tick like bad lifters for maybe 5 to 10 seconds. It's because of the 0 weight oil they use these days. The lifters leak down after a few hours. Some people think it's a big deal.

The less You know the better You sleep! Friend of mine replaced V6 Pentastar even without reaching 100k, I know some people who is over 400k with the same motor. Sh.t is happening! I know that factory 3d brake light gasket is bad and I need to change the oil every 10k and after 100k to replace spark plugs and brake pads. That's all! I like Hemi and RaM. Switched from F150.

 

[silver billet]

You haven't noticed it, but they pretty much all have it. The dealer just knows it's normal. After sitting overnight, try remote starting it, while standing in front of it. It will tick like bad lifters for maybe 5 to 10 seconds. It's because of the 0 weight oil they use these days. The lifters leak down after a few hours. Some people think it's a big deal.

This is not true for all hemis. Mine certainly never does this as a usual thing, it only does it once in a blue moon if I start it cold, drive for 10 seconds, turn it off and then start it cold again the next time it might tick for 2 seconds. But it doesn't do 5 to 10 seconds either, its a really short 1 to 2 seconds.

I do agree that oil and filter choice can help with this though.

 

[PurpleRT]

I was gonna suggest give it some more time. You had plenty of seat time in the F150 so it’s gonna take more then a few days to adjust to the difference characteristics of the Ram. Don’t give up just yet.


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[Darksteel165]

This is not true for all hemis. Mine certainly never does this as a usual thing, it only does it once in a blue moon if I start it cold, drive for 10 seconds, turn it off and then start it cold again the next time it might tick for 2 seconds. But it doesn't do 5 to 10 seconds either, its a really short 1 to 2 seconds.

I do agree that oil and filter choice can help with this though.

I don't have any ticking when I remote start mine. Only 12k miles so far so still time for the ticking to develop lol. I use mobile 1 0w20 and an srt filter if it matters.

 

[HSKR R/T]

I don't have any ticking when I remote start mine. Only 12k miles so far so still time for the ticking to develop lol. I use mobile 1 0w20 and an srt filter if it matters.

Filter probably makes more of a difference than the oil weight. Anti-drainback valve in the SRT filter is better. I use the SRT filters as well

 

[23RAM]

I don't have any ticking when I remote start mine. Only 12k miles so far so still time for the ticking to develop lol. I use mobile 1 0w20 and an srt filter if it matters.

No tick in mine either...many cold starts the last month with it and it's much quieter than the SUV with direct injection. Just rolled over the first 1,000 miles this week though and going for it's first oil change on Monday. Yeah I know it's early, but that's what I always do with new vehicles. After that it will likely be every 6k miles (10k km).

 

[23RAM]

Filter probably makes more of a difference than the oil weight. Anti-drainback valve in the SRT filter is better. I use the SRT filters as well

How does the valve make any difference - isn't the filter upside down at the bottom of the engine? The filter will always be full of oil upon start up.

 

[HSKR R/T]

How does the valve make any difference - isn't the filter upside down at the bottom of the engine? The filter will always be full of oil upon start up.

Anti-drainback valve in the filter helps keeps the oil from draining out of top of engine.

 

[Dewey]

Filter probably makes more of a difference than the oil weight. Anti-drainback valve in the SRT filter is better. I use the SRT filters as well

Do you have a number for that filter?

 

[HSKR R/T]

Do you have a number for that filter?

5038041AA
MO-041

 

[theblet]

I didn’t read the whole thread but these trucks have 8 gears, so 5th on the old f150 isn’t the same as 5th on the hemi. Make sure you’re in tow mode and run 89 octane too

 

[23RAM]

Anti-drainback valve in the filter helps keeps the oil from draining out of top of engine.

Yes I get that and it makes sense for my SUV and boat engines where the filter is on the top or side of the engine.

However, how does this help since the filter is inverted at the bottom of the engine?

 

[HSKR R/T]

Yes I get that and it makes sense for my SUV and boat engines where the filter is on the top or side of the engine.

However, how does this help since the filter is inverted at the bottom of the engine?

I not sure how you can understand the purpose of the anti-drainback valve, but not how it works. Filter location doesn't make a difference.

 

[23RAM]

I not sure how you can understand the purpose of the anti-drainback valve, but not how it works. Filter location doesn't make a difference.

Maybe this will help:

 

[theblet]

Without the valve the oil pressure will bleed back, doesn’t matter where the filter it.

 

[Darksteel165]

Yes I get that and it makes sense for my SUV and boat engines where the filter is on the top or side of the engine.

However, how does this help since the filter is inverted at the bottom of the engine?

There is only oil in your oil filter.... If the filter is essentially blocking itself from the clean oil flowing back into where the dirty oil is so it will stay where it was.
When the engine is running there is pressure forcing the dirty side into the filter, then out of the filter into the engine
I don't think you are thinking about what we are talking about here.

I think it ight be called this but it's basically the same thing.

Anti-syphon valve​

Here's the very first google result, maybe that will make more sense to you.

VALVES IN OIL FILTERS - FIND OUT ABOUT THEIR FUNCTIONS AND EFFECTS

The quality of the air filter gasket affects the entire process of filtration and the air that is sucked in by the engine. Each gasket must provide an airtight and durable connection between the filter and the housing in which the filter is installed.

filtron.eu

 

[Idahoktm]

Yes I get that and it makes sense for my SUV and boat engines where the filter is on the top or side of the engine.

However, how does this help since the filter is inverted at the bottom of the engine?

You're right about a vertical filter not needing an anti-drain back valve to keep the filter full of oil. However, the anti-drain back valve prevents the filtered oil that is in the galleries above the filter from draining back too.

 

[6of36]

You're right about a vertical filter not needing an anti-drain back valve to keep the filter full of oil. However, the anti-drain back valve prevents the filtered oil that is in the galleries above the filter from draining back too.

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That's a funny drawing. Nothing like how the oil actually flows. The only thing they got right, is that oil flows through a filter.

 

[6of36]

This is not true for all hemis. Mine certainly never does this as a usual thing, it only does it once in a blue moon if I start it cold, drive for 10 seconds, turn it off and then start it cold again the next time it might tick for 2 seconds. But it doesn't do 5 to 10 seconds either, its a really short 1 to 2 seconds.

I do agree that oil and filter choice can help with this though.

To clear this all up on the filter thing.... the check valve is necessary for filters that mount case up and flange down to prevent them from emptying. They are not necessary on motors with the filter mounted flange up. It has nothing to do with pressure, because the engine is off and it only has gravity to cause the oil to run down, which it will not do when the filter is at the bottom. The lifters leaking down has nothing to do with oil in the top of the engine. The lifters are hydraulic. Pressurized oil pumps them up to push the valve train. The valve springs push back against the lifters, and when the engine is not running, the lifters leak down. A filter check valve will not prevent that. The engine will tick, until the pressure builds back in the lifters. Some lifters leak down more than others, therefore not every engine will tick, but it is so common they consider it normal. It doesn't hurt anything. The thinner oil used these days leaks down past the seals in the lifters, easier than the old thicker oil. 30 years ago, it would not have been considered normal, and the lifters would have been replaced.

 

[theblet]

That's a funny drawing. Nothing like how the oil actually flows. The only thing they got right, is that oil flows through a filter.

It’s for laymen