"The only feature of eTorque". Yeah, no.MDS is god damn terrible on every manufacturer. Why would you even want it on an ecodiesel.
Also eTorque would be 100% pointless on a diesel, they use almost no gas while idle, so start stop (the only feature of eTorque) is pointless.
Start-stop is the only feature of eTorque."The only feature of eTorque". Yeah, no.
Ok so you just want to deny any and all benefits of innovation even when it is spelled out for you. Gotcha.Start-stop is the only feature of eTorque.
Unless you consider the need to replace a generator and battery pack vs replacing an alternator a "feature"
You obviously don't understand understand eTorque.Ok so you just want to deny any and all benefits of innovation even when it is spelled out for you. Gotcha.
Out of that entire 10-minute, clear and concise explanation, the ONLY thing you took away was "stop/start bad, alternator good." Tells me all I need to know.
Regenerative braking? Cooling system assist? Eliminating the need to use a starter for stop/start? 1/2 tire rotation start assist? Reduced wear on brakes/transmission clutches/etc? Did you even watch the video that explained ALL of this?You obviously don't understand understand eTorque.
eTorque only does start-stop.
MDS is not part of eTorque if you are confusing that.
Tell me ANYHTING eTorque does.
I never said "alternator good" or "stop/start badd"
This thread was about eTorque on a diesel, there are no benefits.
Regenerative breaking to charge a battery that ONLY POWERS START\STOP.Regenerative braking? Cooling system assist? Eliminating the need to use a starter for stop/start? 1/2 tire rotation start assist? Reduced wear on brakes/transmission clutches/etc? Did you even watch the video that explained ALL of this?
Who says they hate everything about them? This thread was asking about a combination of features are do not currently exist or are offered.Boy you guys really hate that system huh? It's just the end of days.
Most of what I've come across on this forum are people who are 100% against any innovation and a whole lot of bad information "it should be ok" advice. Think my short stint here is over.
Makes no sense why you guys buy these trucks if you hate everything about them. Jesus.
The starter isn't used with eTorque to start the engine from the start/stop system. I have no idea where you get that I said there was no starter.Regenerative breaking to charge a battery that ONLY POWERS START\STOP.
1/2 tire rotation start assist? Only after the truck was turned off via the start\stop feature and effectively does ZERO as as the "hybrid assist" can't even run on it's own.
Cooling system assist, wtf are you even talking about? When start\stop is engaged there is 0 cooling being done, AC gets turned off and air gets hot in the summer, and cold in the winter because it changes to vent only.
Eliminating the need for a starter for start\stop? You still have a starter, you no longer have an alternator, and if your 48v battery pack goes your truck will not run on the 12v battery.
Did you even research the system?
This thread in particular was about the diesel which you clearly have 0 understanding on how they work.
There are no pros to be gained having eTorque on a diesel.
How much regenerative breaking losing mpg would it require to replace the .5-1 gallon of diesel it uses in an hour of being idle?
Who says they hate everything about them? This thread was asking about a combination of features are do not currently exist or are offered.
Without getting into the other arguments, this is not correct. My eTorque went into some failsafe mode where the ET system shut off and wasn't charging or running the system. Truck ran off the 12v until it would run out of power. Had to keep it on a charger overnight until we got it to the dealer to fix but I could still get to work and back on a full 12v charge.Eliminating the need for a starter for start\stop? You still have a starter, you no longer have an alternator, and if your 48v battery pack goes your truck will not run on the 12v battery.
Wow. You are really something. Your posts entertain the hell out of me. Usually not very right.MDS is god damn terrible on every manufacturer. Why would you even want it on an ecodiesel.
Also eTorque would be 100% pointless on a diesel, they use almost no gas while idle, so start stop (the only feature of eTorque) is pointless.
Some folks said disabling MDS actually hurts the lifters or something like that. Dont know if its true.eTorque is a classic example of one step forward but two steps backward. Yes it has "benefits". But the disadvantages outweigh those benefits. So it increases the EPA combined score by 2 MPG. ALL of that savings goes up into thin air the first time you have to buy a MGU out of warranty and have it programmed to work with the PCM/48V system. It has also been proven to increase the risk of vehicle fires. It is a complete waste of time. The other OEs have hybrid systems that actually work better. eTorque is joke.
As far as the EcoD goes I hated the start/stop system because it requires two batteries under hood. This adds complexity and cost to everything including jump starting a dead vehicle. And for what, 0.3% better city MPG? Again, these systems are a joke.
MDS is the worst offender of all though. MDS actually kills engines. We've seen timing chain recalls, cam/lifter failures, etc. etc. for at least 10-12 years. WHY are they still using this junk?
I was lucky to find one of the very last non-eTorque Hemi trucks made. I can shut off MDS with the press of a button. No direct injection. No forced induction. No hybrid system. As simple as pie. Life is good.
Dealership emailed me this week and asked if I would be willing to sell it back to them. Here we are 9 months later. They have customers looking for THESE powertrains.