Dip stick?

[1791]

Know what else doesn't have dipsticks. Your transfer case, front and rear differentials, and your windshield washer fluid. I bet you've never complained about any of those. Windshield washer has a level sensor on it . You probably never think about that failing.

okay you're being ridiculous, i agree with you thanks for pointing those issues out every fluid needs a dipstick.

 

[HSKR R/T]

okay you're being ridiculous, i agree with you thanks for pointing those issues out every fluid needs a dipstick.

Rediculous is the unfounded fear some people have about not having a dipstick.

 

[SD Rebel]

I've owned vehicles without dipsticks, mainly BMWs, never had an issue or missed not having one.

If I had a choice I rather have one, but no dipstick with the on board level sensor is fine too.

Im a DIY guy and have zero issues with no dipstick systems for over 20 years of ownership.

 

[BowDown]

I've owned vehicles without dipsticks, mainly BMWs, never had an issue or missed not having one.

If I had a choice I rather have one, but no dipstick with the on board level sensor is fine too.

Im a DIY guy and have zero issues with no dipstick systems for over 20 years of ownership.

Same here. My wifes XF doesn't have a dipstick, haven't missed it in the 10 years we've owned the car. Would I like one, yeah, does not having one stop my world, no

 

[6of36]

Burning or using enough oil to impact the amount of oil in the oil pan is gonna smoke and smoke alot. The only way you're slowly burning oil and emptying an oil pan while showing no signs of smoke is if you're going 15K+ miles or years between oil changes

Not necessarily. I had a Cadillac ElDorado. Never smoked a bit. but they burned a lot of oil. Dealership stated, it's normal to burn 3 quarts, between changes. He said that's why they had an 8 quart oil pan, so when it burned 3, you still had 5. An oil level light came on, at 3 quarts low. That's your great GM engineering.

 

[1791]

Rediculous is the unfounded fear some people have about not having a dipstick.

i assure you that at 56 years old and being a former GM tech i am plenty informed.

 

[HSKR R/T]

i assure you that at 56 years old and being a former GM tech i am plenty informed.

I didn't say you weren't informed, I said it was unfounded fear. Oil level sensors have been in use for decades, and there hasn't been any widespread issue with them. Not saying some haven't had issues, but it's probably less than Hemis that have had lifter issues, even with a dipstick.

 

[Paul B]

The HO requires premium fuel.

No it doesn't.....stellantis engineer on a youtube interview said it doesn't.
To get the performance out of the H/O yes. Otherwise the merid of computers adjusts for a lower octane.
So go figure....
Paul B

 

[mikeru82]

No it doesn't.....stellantis engineer on a youtube interview said it doesn't.
To get the performance out of the H/O yes. Otherwise the merid of computers adjusts for a lower octane.
So go figure....
Paul B

Sorry, I posted information that people who own HO equipped trucks have posted on another forum. I don’t own one nor had I personally researched that. 30 seconds of research after reading your response seems to back up what you said. Thanks for the correction.

The 2025 Ram 1500 Hurricane HO: Premium Fuel Optional

The new 2025 Ram 1500 is available with a high-output inline six-cylinder engine that maxes out with premium fuel. But you don't need it.

www.edmunds.com

 

[BowDown]

Not necessarily. I had a Cadillac ElDorado. Never smoked a bit. but they burned a lot of oil. Dealership stated, it's normal to burn 3 quarts, between changes. He said that's why they had an 8 quart oil pan, so when it burned 3, you still had 5. An oil level light came on, at 3 quarts low. That's your great GM engineering.

There's really only 2 ways to lose oil, consumption and a leak.
Consumption of a significant amount of oil as you describe should be noticeable if you're paying attention. Consumption is going to be through the rings or through the valve stem seals, both of which would cause a decent amount smoke while driving or on start up.

A leak is going to leave an obvious sign that you should see but there's people that don't.

Here's a post from FB of a guy smoking an engine.



To me, you should have caught this and known you had a problem. Having a dipstick wouldn't have helped him but this is exactly what I'm talking about when I say most don't pay attention and wouldn't even check a dipstick. You miss this, you're not checking a dipstick