Dip stick?

[RedFred]

I'd says it's more likely the original oil change, the tech only out in 5 qts, and not seven, so it was actually low. Since I doubt you measured the oil that drained out, you will never really know, and can only speculate.

They measured the oil that came out with me and put the same oil back in. They had a huge jug with measurements on the side that they used to catch the oil. I was inside the shop and watched the whole process as they tried to prove to me they put the correct amount of oil in it. They didn't discard the oil, they just put it back in the motor after. So 100% the truck stating to add 2 quarts was incorrect. There was no trickery or slight of hand. The owner of the place said let's go see what's going on and told me I can come inside and watch to make sure nothing funny was going on. After they put the oil back in the second time, truck was still saying oil level low and to add 2 quarts. Only later that day, when I reset oil life monitor while at a gas station, did the warning lights and message go away and oil level reset to show all was well.

 

[RedFred]

That's what I'm saying - sensors (and/or programming) can go bad and having a dipstick is an easy way to validate actual oil level.

Every year on the Audi forums there were several reports of ruined engines because the owners followed the dash instructions to "add oil" when it was already full (or overfilled) when the sensors malfunctioned. Since those VAG 2.0L and 3.0L engines were known to burn oil nobody batted an eye when the oil level was low, and sensor failure was a thing. At least those engines had dipstick tubes, just needed to get the correct $60 dipstick.

We're not seeing reports of frequent (or any?) sensor failure on the Hurricane's so for now, it's sort of a moot point.

This could have easily happened to me as the truck kept warning me to add 2 quarts. Even after I watched them put the 7+ quarts in it the second time, the dash kept saying the oil level was low and to add 2 quarts immediately. If I didn't witness the oil going in, I could have easily just did what the truck was asking and added another 2 quarts which would have overfilled the oil and possibly damaged my motor.

 

[NorskieRider]

This could have easily happened to me as the truck kept warning me to add 2 quarts. Even after I watched them put the 7+ quarts in it the second time, the dash kept saying the oil level was low and to add 2 quarts immediately. If I didn't witness the oil going in, I could have easily just did what the truck was asking and added another 2 quarts which would have overfilled the oil and possibly damaged my motor.

Have you considered reaching out to Mopar support to get a definitive answer on how the oil reset interacts with the oil level sensors?

 

[HSKR R/T]

They measured the oil that came out with me and put the same oil back in. They had a huge jug with measurements on the side that they used to catch the oil. I was inside the shop and watched the whole process as they tried to prove to me they put the correct amount of oil in it. They didn't discard the oil, they just put it back in the motor after. So 100% the truck stating to add 2 quarts was incorrect. There was no trickery or slight of hand. The owner of the place said let's go see what's going on and told me I can come inside and watch to make sure nothing funny was going on. After they put the oil back in the second time, truck was still saying oil level low and to add 2 quarts. Only later that day, when I reset oil life monitor while at a gas station, did the warning lights and message go away and oil level reset to show all was well.

Interesting. Not sure If be happy with dumping used oil back in my engine, even if it was a recent oil change. No telling how dirty the jug was they drained the oil into, or what type of oil it was used for before.

If definitely reach out to your dealer, or @RamCares and see if maybe there is a software update, or maybe it's an issue they aren't informed of yet.

 

[BowDown]

nonsense....my buddy bought a brand new F-150 4 years ago with the V-8. It burned 1 qt every 500 miles,(known issue with some Ford trucks a few years ago), no noticeable blue smoke. he traded it in with 2000 miles on it for a 3.5 eco boost.

Oil consumption is not always blue smoke, depending upon how its being conmsumed, it could be white. Also note, I'm talking about the amount of consumption the OP was speaking of

 

[BowDown]

My kid has a Rio that was using almost a quart of oil per tank of gas…. Never noticed any smoke. It has since been cured, we’ve got it down under a quart per 5,000 miles now.

Corrected to say “has” instead of “had”. Hopefully that POS keeps going for a while lol.

What was the issue?

 

[BowDown]

Here’s what the owners manual says…. is required.

Note that it said for "optimium performance and economy" 91+ is requreied. I myself use 93 and used 93 in my HEMI since costcos 93 is as cheap as everyone elses 87

 

[RedFred]

Interesting. Not sure If be happy with dumping used oil back in my engine, even if it was a recent oil change. No telling how dirty the jug was they drained the oil into, or what type of oil it was used for before.

If definitely reach out to your dealer, or @RamCares and see if maybe there is a software update, or maybe it's an issue they aren't informed of yet.

The oil was only in the motor for an hour or so, but I wasn't happy about it either. I did inspect the jug and had him clean it again before using it, but I just paid for the oil change and the shop wasn't going to give me fresh synthetic since they were not at fault. In the future I will just continue to do the oil changes myself and see if the issue comes up again. I suspect the issue arose from them resetting the oil life monitor while the oil was getting drained. I always reset the oil life monitor at the end and never had this issue come up.

 

[456MORam]

Note that it said for "optimium performance and economy" 91+ is requreied. I myself use 93 and used 93 in my HEMI since costcos 93 is as cheap as everyone elses 87

The last sentence of the paragraph is literally “The use of 91 or higher octane premium gasoline is required in this engine.”. Also again on page 418, it specifically specifies 91 Octane or higher, at least that is the page number in the 2025 manual. I personally don’t care what grade of gas anyone chooses to use in their engine. However there is no gray area per the owner manual as to what grade Ram specifies for the HO Hurricane.

If you are speaking to the SO Hurricane you are correct.

 

[456MORam]

What was the issue?

I assume something with stuck or gummed up rings. I did some research online and ended up trying a Berryman B12 piston soak, figuring I pretty much didn’t have anything to loose. I was busy at the time so I was only able to do like a 10 hour soak. I thought I killed it when we went to start it back up, but it finally fired up. That soak made a big difference, so when I got more time I did a full 24 hour soak and saw another good improvement. Then I found out about Valvoline Restore and protect. We are about to do our third oil change with that. We have gone from almost a quart per tank of gas, to now he can make a full 5,000 mile interval and be less than 1 full quart down. Personally I’d add a half quart somewhere in the middle, but apparently he’s too damn lazy. Did a bunch of other things, but I’m pretty sure it was the piston soak that fixed it.

Bought the car right in the middle of the covid **** show. Worst car purchase I’ve ever made in my life, but the wife and kid had no patience. Luckily I was able to salvage it, and at least did not end up with a complete loss. Started at over $8k into it. Was over $10k with immediate repairs and was fearing it might just be a total loss. I ended up around $12k into it but made it through and he’s still driving it. And that was doing the vast majority of the work myself. I guess at least someone in a worse position didn’t end up hosed with it, if there is any bright side.

 

[RedFred]

The last sentence of the paragraph is literally “The use of 91 or higher octane premium gasoline is required in this engine.”. Also again on page 418, it specifically specifies 91 Octane or higher, at least that is the page number in the 2025 manual. I personally don’t care what grade of gas anyone chooses to use in their engine. However there is no gray area per the owner manual as to what grade Ram specifies for the HO Hurricane.

If you are speaking to the SO Hurricane you are correct.

That is correct. 91 or more for HO motors. The SO hurricane motors can use 87 octane but recommend 91 for optimal performance.

 

[Paul B]

That is correct. 91 or more for HO motors. The SO hurricane motors can use 87 octane but recommend 91 for optimal performance.

See post #49 above.....
Paul B

 

[RedFred]

See post #49 above.....
Paul B

I was only quoting what it states in the owners manual. Do I think the HO motor will blow up if you use regular? No, but it would probably reduce engine performance and greatly reduce the claimed HP. With that being said, someone could easily make the argument that you should follow what is stated in the manufacturer's owners manual over what was printed in an article on Edmunds.com.

 

[HSKR R/T]

I was only quoting what it states in the owners manual. Do I think the HO motor will blow up if you use regular? No, but it would probably reduce engine performance and greatly reduce the claimed HP. With that being said, someone could easily make the argument that you should follow what is stated in the manufacturer's owners manual over what was printed in an article on Edmunds.com.

You can't get the Hemi guys to run 89, you think Hurricane owners will be any different?

 

[RedFred]

You can't get the Hemi guys to run 89, you think Hurricane owners will be any different?

That's true. Although I usually put 93 octane in my SO motor. I don't understand why you even buy a HO motor and then neuter it with 87 octane.