Anyone know what kind of bolt this is

[Code2medic]

I’m at a lose something as simple as needing to loosen on bolt turns into why did they use this and what the hell is it moment

front passenger seat bolt looks like a torque bit so what’s the trick or tool to remove it and size if anyone knows. never seen a seat bolt like that and we just need to loosen it to get our mounts attached

 

[Quietpeen]

that is an external torx bolt. I’m assuming it is your front seat bolt?

 

[Eighty]

so what’s the trick or tool to remove it

 

[kapinallinen2]

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LOL, that is not going to cut it with the blue lock-tite that most likely is on the bolt.

 

[Quietpeen]

be cautious, the design will make you think that the socket will engage like a boss, turns out it engages like a temp worker and then next thing you know your knuckle is in immense pain and bleeding from trying to torque this ****ing bolt and then a week later your finger is still showing signs of bruising.

 

[Av1]

As mentioned above, it's an E-Torx.

I just checked my seat bolt. It's an E12 size.

 

[DEG]

Yea, I had to go buy an E12 female socket to install seat jackers. Literature says to torque them to 27 ftlbs, but when I removed mine they felt like they had been installed with a 6 foot breaker bar and I saw no evidence of thread locker compound.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Just go buy an etorx socket set. Got mine from Harbor Freight when I went to install my seat jackers. Always better to get the right tool.

 

[Rick3478]

External Torx has more grip strength than internal for the same bolt size, and for rapid assembly the tool holds bolt head in line better than a conventional hex. For related reasons, it also makes really bad cross-threading possible if the assembler gets sloppy.

 

[Darksteel165]

I didn't know this existed... Guess I have another set of tools to buy for the "just in case" torque, security torx, now etorx... Maybe etorque next?
Edit: even more annoying, there is etorx and etorx+ and they don't appear to be interchangeable.
Is the picture e12 or e12+?

 

[HSKR R/T]

I didn't know this existed... Guess I have another set of tools to buy for the "just in case" torque, security torx, now etorx... Maybe etorque next?
Edit: even more annoying, there is etorx and etorx+ and they don't appear to be interchangeable.
Is the picture e12 or e12+?

Not the +

 

[Code2medic]

As mentioned above, it's an E-Torx.

I just checked my seat bolt. It's an E12 size.

I didn’t even bother with them last night after seeing that ended up finding out what it was and grabbing sockets for it. Go figure never knew there were e torx sockets. I mean dam why do they fix **** that isn’t broken

What should have been a simple 30 second job per vehicle turned into more time wasted driving the hr to harbor freight.

Oh and fyi I swear those things were torqued down to 200lbs or more Jesus


Thanks for the replies

 

[Code2medic]

Just go buy an etorx socket set. Got mine from Harbor Freight when I went to install my seat jackers. Always better to get the right tool.

That’s were I grabbed them from the icon ones. All that for a dam bolt lol

 

[Darksteel165]

I didn’t even bother with them last night after seeing that ended up finding out what it was and grabbing sockets for it. Go figure never knew there were e torx sockets. I mean dam why do they fix **** that isn’t broken

Thanks for the replies

Likely harder to round off etorx then regular hex heads?
Seems to be more of an import thing, just FCA screwing around with Ram if I had to guess.
We are going to be flipping over OEM cup holders soon and seeing Fiat as the brand.

 

[kapinallinen2]

I didn’t even bother with them last night after seeing that ended up finding out what it was and grabbing sockets for it. Go figure never knew there were e torx sockets. I mean dam why do they fix **** that isn’t broken

What should have been a simple 30 second job per vehicle turned into more time wasted driving the hr to harbor freight.

Oh and fyi I swear those things were torqued down to 200lbs or more Jesus


Thanks for the replies

Oh and fyi I swear those things were torqued down to 200lbs or more Jesus

Wait till you go after the rear seat bolts...

 

[Rick3478]

Oh and fyi I swear those things were torqued down to 200lbs or more Jesus

Are they by any chance almost-round three lobe self-tappers? That's another trend in rapid assembly, the resulting threads are a standard size but you save a step.

 

[PurpleRT]

Wait till you go after the rear seat bolts...

Easy… use an impact lol. I don’t remember them being a issue when I installed under-seat storage


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[Brutal_HO]

Likely harder to round off etorx then regular hex heads?
Seems to be more of an import thing, just FCA screwing around with Ram if I had to guess.
We are going to be flipping over OEM cup holders soon and seeing Fiat as the brand.

I don't know about other brands, but Audi has been using E-Torx for what seems like forever.

 

[kapinallinen2]

Easy… use an impact lol. I don’t remember them being a issue when I installed under-seat storage


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All I have is a ratchet, clad you have access to more advanced tools.

 

[Darksteel165]

I don't know about other brands, but Audi has been using E-Torx for what seems like forever.

Exactly, imports lol. Look like something on a Volkswagen too.