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Ive been messing around with this engine since dec 31st 2008 when i bought my 2009 R/T challenger. Short tubes =loss of money negligible hp gain


That’s why we wait 4 weeks until the Long tubes come out
 
Kooks said they are 60-90 days from releasing LTs. I'm still debating because $1,500 for 20hp is a lot.
 
Is it my skeptical eyes, or does the baseline in the LT dyno graph not look right...

Funny how their baselines for the ST, exh and LT are all (meaningfully) different.

I want to believe, but ... maybe someone with real-world experience can convince me, ‘cause I wanna believe!
 
^^^^ I don’t disagree. I’ve been talking about that for months.
I’ve done a lot of reading and talking to multi aftermarket companies. One thing that I’ve found seems to be across the board. The 5th gens respond a lot more positive to manifold upgrade compared to 4th gens on stock tune. regardless of short or long.
 
Yes, I just sent a set of those back to Summit. They were awful. After removing them I found the drivers side flange warped. Probably why I couldn't stop the exhaust leak...
 

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