I bought a '24 1500 with the etorque Hemi. I had a '17 with the Hemi. In my old truck, when you accelerate hard from a stop or passing, it has major power. My new truck really doesn't. It's all suppose to be the same. What's the deal with this?
Hard to compare two different trucks. Espeywithiur knowing the trim level and options for each one.I bought a '24 1500 with the etorque Hemi. I had a '17 with the Hemi. In my old truck, when you accelerate hard from a stop or passing, it has major power. My new truck really doesn't. It's all suppose to be the same. What's the deal with this?
Like mentioned previously, possibly different gear ratio.Yes, this truck is quieter and smoother. The same tire size, etc. no mods on old truck or this one. My 17 kicked a$$ on acceleration, this one really doesn’t. Traction control is off.
I had the exact same gripe when I bought my 2022. Felt it immediately in the first 100 miles. Biggest problem was the severe throttle lag. Never owning and eTorque before I naturally blamed that but doubt that’s the issue.Yes, this truck is quieter and smoother. The same tire size, etc. no mods on old truck or this one. My 17 kicked a$$ on acceleration, this one really doesn’t. Traction control is off.
I timed all my trucks 0-60 using apps and stopwatch. 4th Gens were at least 1 second faster 0-60. That can easily be felt seat of the pants. No doubt about that.Seat of the pants "feel" doesn't necessarily mean it's actually slower
My 15 Limited was for sure faster than my 23, but due to gearing. Ordered my 15 with 3.92. My 23 is etorque and 3.21.
It bothered me at first…
But in reality.. it’s probably saving me some tires, it STILL has more than enough power for anything I need to do.. and I do get better fuel mileage compared to my last truck. A lot better? No, but.. certainly a little.
I didn’t buy a full size truck with a V8 with a concern for gas mileage, but, I’ll take the side benefit.
It still gets up and goes to 80 when getting on the freeway around here.
It’s noticeable for me…but with the tech, stereo, nicer looking and more function than my old truck.. and I’m not getting any younger, I just smile as I go for a ride!
@OP Don Juan, if you still have your old VIN, look up the sticker and see what gearing it had.
If it’s 3.92 vs. 3.21.. yep, it’ll be different.
On my new truck, at 80 I’m at/around 1800 RPM. With my 15 if I recall at 80 I was around 2200 RPM, I do remember being above 2K.
I know there is a difference between my 15 and 23 for RPM in 8th gear, it’s greater than 450ish RPM.Yes, there is about a 450-ish RPM difference between the 3.21 and 3.92 in 8th gear.
I know there is a difference between my 15 and 23 for RPM in 8th gear, it’s greater than 450ish RPM.
It could be my 15 had 20 inch rims and my 23 has 22’s. I don’t know how (and don’t really care to look…lol) how big of a difference in diameter between the two.
I do know it’s greater than 450ish RPMs. Not arguing the math same vs. same Silver, just saying with 140K on my 15 before I traded it in, to my current 23 with north of 15K miles, I’m 100% certain, unless the tachometer and/or speedo on either/both is incorrect.
I know there is a difference between my 15 and 23 for RPM in 8th gear, it’s greater than 450ish RPM.
It could be my 15 had 20 inch rims and my 23 has 22’s. I don’t know how (and don’t really care to look…lol) how big of a difference in diameter between the two.
I do know it’s greater than 450ish RPMs. Not arguing the math same vs. same Silver, just saying with 140K on my 15 before I traded it in, to my current 23 with north of 15K miles, I’m 100% certain, unless the tachometer and/or speedo on either/both is incorrect.
RPM = (MPH * rear axle ratio * transmission ration * 336) / tire size inches |
The tire diameter is different between your 15 and your 22 as well. Which adds to the difference.With all due respect to the mathematicians..
I can say, 100% positively, that my 15 limited, 6’4” bed, 5.7, 3.92 was 2100 to 2200 RPM at 80 MPH.
I can also say, 100% positively, that my 23, 5‘7” bed, 5.7 etorque, 3.21, is around 1800 or 1850RPM at 80MPH.
Stock tire size on the 20“ rims on the 15, stockers on my 23 with 22’s.
After 140K miles in my old truck (and 4 sets of tires) and 15K in my current, I’m certain. From the driver’s seat.
If we want to talk about either tach or speedo being off, that’s fine, so be it… I can honestly say I never measured either.
What I am saying, with 100% certainty, for my trucks, which I drove, it is absolutely more than 450ish RPMs at 80 from one truck to the other.
I ran stock 275/60/20s on my 15. From BFGs to Duratracs to an off brand last time and the crap Goodyear stockers.
My Current 23 has the factory Pirelli 285/45/22.
Again, I’m not saying your math is wrong. I’m saying a variable you’re assuming is incorrect.
I’m saying from 155K+ miles from the driver’s seat in both, that’s not what the gauges read.
I may not be able to remember what my wife told me we have going on this weekend, but over 8 years and 140K, 1 year and 15K, I do remember/know.
You can debate it all you want. What you can’t debate the miles you haven’t driven, in the truck I drove or currently drive.
Thanks HS. As I said earlier, I can’t tell you the diameter, I never measured either, I can only tell you the tire size/brands I bought factory rims.The tire diameter is different between your 15 and your 22 as well. Which adds to the difference.
With all due respect to the mathematicians..
I can say, 100% positively, that my 15 limited, 6’4” bed, 5.7, 3.92 was 2100 to 2200 RPM at 80 MPH.
I can also say, 100% positively, that my 23, 5‘7” bed, 5.7 etorque, 3.21, is around 1800 or 1850RPM at 80MPH.
Stock tire size on the 20“ rims on the 15, stockers on my 23 with 22’s.
After 140K miles in my old truck (and 4 sets of tires) and 15K in my current, I’m certain. From the driver’s seat.
If we want to talk about either tach or speedo being off, that’s fine, so be it… I can honestly say I never measured either.
What I am saying, with 100% certainty, for my trucks, which I drove, it is absolutely more than 450ish RPMs at 80 from one truck to the other.
I ran stock 275/60/20s on my 15. From BFGs to Duratracs to an off brand last time and the crap Goodyear stockers.
My Current 23 has the factory Pirelli 285/45/22.
Again, I’m not saying your math is wrong. I’m saying a variable you’re assuming is incorrect.
I’m saying from 155K+ miles from the driver’s seat in both, that’s not what the gauges read.
I may not be able to remember what my wife told me we have going on this weekend, but over 8 years and 140K, 1 year and 15K, I do remember/know.
You can debate it all you want. What you can’t debate the miles you haven’t driven, in the truck I drove or currently drive.