This one is way cheaperBuy a Peddle Commander and drive every day in Eco mode.
I tried that and my mileage dramatically improved by 3-4 mpg but felt like I was driving a 4 cyl due to so much less accelerator response. That few day experiment couldn’t end quick enough. I like the gas peddle too much.
Except the whole purpose of my post was to prove that 23 mpg absolutely is possible at 68 mph with 3.92 gears. If you don't believe it...ok...fine.
My truck is 3.21 and I use my truck to haul and tow heavy all the time with farm stuff at long distances with hills. Maybe more than you.Unfortunately for us the speed limit here is 100 km/h or 62 mph. If I was doing 75+ (120+ km/h) tickets would start to pile up.
Taller gears would help if you don't need/want towing or cargo capability.
But then I have to question why buy a full size pickup if you don't need the cargo/towing capability?
I bought the RAM for it's capabilities, not for a daily driver to work and back.
Yeah I get that...we're paying over $6 a gallon here too.
No misconceptions...3.92 is required for trailering over about 8k. I wanted 3.92 for the max capability knowing I would tow 8.5k occasionally.I think there is a misconception that you have that only a 3.92 can be used “ if you need hauling/ towing capabilities“.
3.92 gearing gives you about 3,000 lbs more towing capacity with the same truck setup over 3.21. I tow a 5k trailer regularly, but I've towed up to 8.5k. With 3.21 gearing it would be over the SAE J2807 limit by a few hundred pounds. If you will never need that higher capability, then 3.21 is the better choice.3.21. Same capability in my mind, with better mileage.
No misconceptions...3.92 is required for trailering over about 8k. I wanted 3.92 for the max capability knowing I would tow 8.5k occasionally.
3.92 gearing gives you about 3,000 lbs more towing capacity with the same truck setup over 3.21. I tow a 5k trailer regularly, but I've towed up to 8.5k. With 3.21 gearing it would be over the SAE J2807 limit by a few hundred pounds. If you will never need that higher capability, then 3.21 is the better choice.
Oddly enough, RAM promotes the E-Torque system as being more capable, when in fact the regular 5.7L tows over 100 lbs more and has 70 lbs more payload capability with the same truck configuration. That wasn't a factor in my decision - it was the cost of E-Torque over fuel savings - it wouldn't pay for itself over the life of the truck so I didn't want it.
That's no fun! 17 mpg on computer unless I drive hwy.Installation mg performance enhancing parts isn’t going to increase mpg. That’s counterintuitive.
The only thing you can do it baby it, stay out the city, don’t remote start or idle, set the cruise when you can, and keep it 55mph and under.
If you are driving 55, stay off the freeway. This is 2023.I say 55 mph is highway speed. Maybe I’m used to this because every speedometer on every vehicle had it clearly marked years ago.
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With 3.21 gears, I agree. But my 3.92 hauls 8.5k very well. Pulling the 5k boat I can barely tell it's back there. A friend uses his 2019 RAM to haul his 10k cabin cruiser every weekend and no complaints in 4 years. The SAE J2807 standard is actually pretty rigorous and pushes test vehicles hard. Most people will never be in those situations so I'd expect no issues hauling up to rated amounts.I would not personally tow 8,000+ lbs in these 1/2 tons. I would use a 1 ton.
I said highway not freeway. Not the same thingIf you are driving 55, stay off the freeway. This is 2023.
With 3.21 gears, I agree. But my 3.92 hauls 8.5k very well. Pulling the 5k boat I can barely tell it's back there. A friend uses his 2019 RAM to haul his 10k cabin cruiser every weekend and no complaints in 4 years. The SAE J2807 standard is actually pretty rigorous and pushes test vehicles hard. Most people will never be in those situations so I'd expect no issues hauling up to rated amounts.
With 3.21 gears, I agree. But my 3.92 hauls 8.5k very well. Pulling the 5k boat I can barely tell it's back there. A friend uses his 2019 RAM to haul his 10k cabin cruiser every weekend and no complaints in 4 years. The SAE J2807 standard is actually pretty rigorous and pushes test vehicles hard. Most people will never be in those situations so I'd expect no issues hauling up to rated amounts.
These trucks can tow a lot. Rated amounts are certainly impressive.
I just cant get close to the rated tow amounts if I honor the payload numbers. My truck has low payload numbers, and none have high numbers.
Its good it works for you.
Pretty sure he was referring to safety when he spoke about the 1500/3.21/3.92 towing weight.
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My 3.21's towed this all steel Max D trailer equipped with air ride, electric trailer brakes, Air compressor, two batteries, winch and power trailer tongue jack. It weighs 5500lbs by itself and had a 3000lb car on it.
Could I tow it? Yes, no issues. Would I want to tow that much weight with a 1500 regularly? F no and let me reiterate, F NO.
The 1500 doesn't have enough truck for that much weight, the rear gears played zero role in my discomfort towing that much weight safely. If I towed this kinda weight with any regularity, I'd have a 2500 or 3500
Agreed.
Safely and comfortably.
You’re only as good as your last mistake. I’ve made many.
Yep and mine has one of the higher payload amounts I've seen for a limited and its only 128x or 138x lbs. No way Id tow 10-11K with these trucks. The guy that owns the trailer in my pic above even went from a F250 to a F350 for that reason and he drives trucks for a living, owns a dump truck business with ~15 of trucks
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He didn't like the way his F250 felt with 10K lbs
Pretty silly to imply that 3.21 gears aren't capable.Unfortunately for us the speed limit here is 100 km/h or 62 mph. If I was doing 75+ (120+ km/h) tickets would start to pile up.
Taller gears would help if you don't need/want towing or cargo capability.
But then I have to question why buy a full size pickup if you don't need the cargo/towing capability?
I bought the RAM for it's capabilities, not for a daily driver to work and back.
Yeah I get that...we're paying over $6 a gallon here too.
First post is to insult people? Nice.Pretty silly to imply that 3.21 gears aren't capable.