I like your response better also!Lmao. Who knows??? I like my response better
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2019 Ram 1500 have diesel available?
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Wasn’t there an article on here about them being available as a 2020. A summer into for fall delivery? Ram pumped out 2018 EDs through December still plenty of them on lots to.
I do a Google search DAILY... Nothing new...
Hey Vern,
Yes, but with a summer of 19 delivery. I would have expected an official announcement by now.
Don't do it! The ink won't be dry and FCA will announce the new ecodiesel!
I spoke directly with the head person at the new York auto show . She said 4th quarter 2019 most likely and it will be a different motor. The EPA will be the deciding factor of when it will be released.
Maybe it will be the Cummins that was supposed to be used a few years back.. ?
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That would be cool .I'm sure the details will be released in a few months
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None that I've heard
Willwork4truck
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I didn't go through the whole 9 pages of this thread from 2018 but this is what I found on "WWW.Motor1.com/news"
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APR 20, 2019 at 1:25PM
BY: CHRISTOPHER SMITH
The diesel is still an option for the Ram Classic, but should find its way to the new 1500 later this year.
Update: A spokesperson from Ram sent us clarification on plans for a midsize truck. There are no plans for a midsizer yet, but the automaker is considering options.
"Ram’s new half-ton pickup truck is a handsome machine inside and out. It’s certainly garnered the attention of truck buyers, but it hasn’t quite evolved as far as the previous-generation 1500 in terms of powertrain options. We’re talking about the 3.0-liter V6 EcoDiesel that was available in the old model, and though we’ve heard rumors that the engine was coming to the new Ram, the crew at Autoblog wasn’t content with whispered conversations.
At this year’s New York Auto Show, team Autoblog had a chat with Jim Morrison, who happens to be the head of FCA’s Ram brand. Since Jeep is bringing in a diesel for the Gladiator, the question about offering a diesel in the full-size Ram was asked and the answer was yes. A specific date for this new engine option wasn’t offered, but the report at least narrows the timeframe down to later this year.
Curiously, the report says the engine won’t be the same 3.0-liter turbo diesel used in the previous Ram. Rather, it’s said to be a redesigned version of the mill that’s slated for duty in the Gladiator as well. Nothing is known about this redesign, but the engine is said to make 260 horsepower (194 kilowatts) and 442 pound-feet (599 Newton-meters) of torque. That’s a bit more than the EcoDiesel available in the Ram Classic."
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Edit update: Lastly, just found this, but I won't load the image heavy short article:
5thgenrams.com
Begin quote
APR 20, 2019 at 1:25PM
BY: CHRISTOPHER SMITH
The diesel is still an option for the Ram Classic, but should find its way to the new 1500 later this year.
Update: A spokesperson from Ram sent us clarification on plans for a midsize truck. There are no plans for a midsizer yet, but the automaker is considering options.
"Ram’s new half-ton pickup truck is a handsome machine inside and out. It’s certainly garnered the attention of truck buyers, but it hasn’t quite evolved as far as the previous-generation 1500 in terms of powertrain options. We’re talking about the 3.0-liter V6 EcoDiesel that was available in the old model, and though we’ve heard rumors that the engine was coming to the new Ram, the crew at Autoblog wasn’t content with whispered conversations.
At this year’s New York Auto Show, team Autoblog had a chat with Jim Morrison, who happens to be the head of FCA’s Ram brand. Since Jeep is bringing in a diesel for the Gladiator, the question about offering a diesel in the full-size Ram was asked and the answer was yes. A specific date for this new engine option wasn’t offered, but the report at least narrows the timeframe down to later this year.
Curiously, the report says the engine won’t be the same 3.0-liter turbo diesel used in the previous Ram. Rather, it’s said to be a redesigned version of the mill that’s slated for duty in the Gladiator as well. Nothing is known about this redesign, but the engine is said to make 260 horsepower (194 kilowatts) and 442 pound-feet (599 Newton-meters) of torque. That’s a bit more than the EcoDiesel available in the Ram Classic."
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Edit update: Lastly, just found this, but I won't load the image heavy short article:
Production-Spec 2020 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel Caught At Local Walmart:
For the past several months, we have continued to bring you the latest information about the upcoming revised 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V6. Recently, MoparInsiders.com spy photographers caught the production-spec 2020 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited Sahara EcoDiesel testing around Metro Detroit. Now, one of...
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Nothing!... with the "other" brands releasing diesels in their 1/2 ton trucks, I'm doubly surprised that FCA is waiting.
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The article above said this: "Curiously, the report says the engine won’t be the same 3.0-liter turbo diesel used in the previous Ram." I think the black eye they got over the reliability plus Ford's entry into the 1/2 ton diesel market is giving their engineers and marketing types reason to rethink things. Ford's 250 hp/440 Tq is the target, so hopefully they will use that rumored engine, best Ford but more importantly, address quality control!
Note: The specs for the Ford are better than the ecodiesel across the board, available hp at rpm, available tq at rpm, payload and tow ratings. Info derived from:
3.0L Power Stroke vs 3.0L EcoDiesel | Diesel F-150, Ram 1500 Comparison
Comparing the 2018 EcoDiesel equipped Ram 1500 to the upcoming 2018 Power Stroke equipped Ford F-150. The 3.0L Power Stroke and 3.0L EcoDiesel share similar qualities and performance characteritics, but will one outshine the other?
- DIESEL HUB
- ›
- COMPARISONS & BUYERS GUIDES
- ›
- 3.0L ECODIESEL VS 3.0L POWER STROKE
RAM 1500 ECODIESEL
Debuting for the 2014 model year, the EcoDiesel became the first diesel engine offered in a 1/2 ton pickup since GM ceased to offer their 6.5L Turbodiesel in Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra 1500 models. Upon announcement, FCA immediately received ridicule for passing on the [then] recently developed 5.0L V-8 from Cummins - the consequences of this decision will never be known. What is known is that the EcoDiesel's 29 mpg fuel economy rating, reasonable upgrade price, and respectable power rating has placed considerable pressure on their competitors.
The EcoDiesel produces 240 horsepower and 420 lb-ft of torque at full load; the engine has been relatively untouched since its inception, though fuel economy was improved by 1 mpg for the 2016 model year when a high efficiency version of the EcoDiesel, dubbed the "HFE", was introduced. EcoDiesel engines are produced by Italian manufacturer VM Motori, whom Fiat Chrysler Automobiles fully acquired shortly before bringing the EcoDiesel to market.
For 2018, EcoDiesel equipped Ram 1500 models are rated to tow a maximum 9,240 lb and carry up to 1,600 lbs of payload, falling short of the 2018 Power Stroke equipped F-150's 11,400 lb towing capacity and 2,020 lb payload rating. The EcoDiesel isn't used to competition in the diesel segment as it's been the only offering (excluding the misguided Titan XD platform) in the 1/2 ton marketplace since its introduction, but only time will tell which powertrain combination attracts more customers from here on.
3.0L ECODIESEL RAM 1500 SPECS (2018 MY)
Manufacturer: | VM Motori |
Displacement: | 182 CID |
Configuration: | 60 deg V-6 |
Bore x Stroke: | 3.27" x 3.60" |
Block/Heads: | Compacted graphite iron (CGI) engine block, aluminum cylinder heads |
Injection: | High Pressure common rail |
Turbocharger: | Single variable geometry turbocharger (VGT) |
Horsepower: | 240 hp @ 3,600 rpm |
Torque: | 420 lb-ft @ 2,000 rpm |
Max Payload: | 1,600 lbs |
Max Tow: | 9,240 lbs |
Transmission: | TorqueFlite 8 8 speed automatic |
Fuel Economy: | up to 21 mpg city, 29 mpg hwy |
Powertrain Warranty: | 100,000 miles/5 years |
FORD F-150 POWER STROKE DIESEL
A diesel version of the Ford F-150 is not a new concept. In fact, Ford, like other manufacturers, taunted buyers with several potential diesel options many years ago. While none of the aforementioned diesel platforms materialized for the F-150, Ford fans can rejoice nonetheless - the 3.0L Power Stroke is on the horizon. Available the Spring of 2018, details of Ford's new 3.0L Power Stroke finally started trickling out in early January 2018.
The engine produces 250 peak horsepower and 440 lb-ft of peak torque, which matches closely with the 3.0L Lions diesel from which the Power Stroke is based on. While these figures marginally surpass Ram's EcoDiesel, the difference hardly suggests that the one will outperform the other under real-world conditions. Ford is also projected to outshine the Ram 1500 in terms of fuel economy. However, if the outcome of the EPA's test is in Ford favor, the Power Stroke will yield a mere 1 mpg advantage over the Ram.
Both the EcoDiesel and Power Stroke utilize weight saving CGI engine blocks and aluminum cylinder heads. Ford has rated the F-150 to tow substantially more than the EcoDiesel equipped Ram 1500 (11,400 vs 9,240 lbs), which may play a pivotal role in the F-150's popularity over the Ram considering the pool of buyers who desire fuel economy Monday through Friday and weekend towing confidence is relatively large. Only time will tell if the new F-150 will live up to years worth of heightening expectations.
3.0L POWER STROKE FORD F-150 SPECS (2018 MY)
Manufacturer: | Ford Motor Company |
Displacement: | 183 CID |
Configuration: | 60 deg V-6 |
Bore x Stroke: | 3.31" x 3.54" |
Block/Heads: | Compacted graphite iron (CGI) engine block, aluminum cylinder heads |
Injection: | High pressure common rail |
Turbocharger: | Single variable geometry turbocharger (VGT) |
Horsepower: | 250 hp @ 3,250 rpm |
Torque: | 440 lb-ft @ 1,750 rpm |
Max Payload: | 2,020 lbs |
Max Tow: | 11,400 lbs |
Transmission: | Ford 10R80 10 speed automatic |
Fuel Economy: | up to 22 mpg city, 30 mpg hwy |
Powertrain Warranty: | 100,000 miles/5 years |
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I was told by someone at FCA that the motor will be a new one.The article above said this: "Curiously, the report says the engine won’t be the same 3.0-liter turbo diesel used in the previous Ram." I think the black eye they got over the reliability plus Ford's entry into the 1/2 ton diesel market is giving their engineers and marketing types reason to rethink things. Ford's 250 hp/440 Tq is the target, so hopefully they will use that rumored engine, best Ford but more importantly, address quality control!
Note: The specs for the Ford are better than the ecodiesel across the board, available hp at rpm, available tq at rpm, payload and tow ratings. Info derived from:
3.0L Power Stroke vs 3.0L EcoDiesel | Diesel F-150, Ram 1500 Comparison
Comparing the 2018 EcoDiesel equipped Ram 1500 to the upcoming 2018 Power Stroke equipped Ford F-150. The 3.0L Power Stroke and 3.0L EcoDiesel share similar qualities and performance characteritics, but will one outshine the other?www.dieselhub.com
3.0L ECODIESEL V-6
- DIESEL HUB
- ›
- COMPARISONS & BUYERS GUIDES
- ›
- 3.0L ECODIESEL VS 3.0L POWER STROKE
RAM 1500 ECODIESEL
Debuting for the 2014 model year, the EcoDiesel became the first diesel engine offered in a 1/2 ton pickup since GM ceased to offer their 6.5L Turbodiesel in Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra 1500 models. Upon announcement, FCA immediately received ridicule for passing on the [then] recently developed 5.0L V-8 from Cummins - the consequences of this decision will never be known. What is known is that the EcoDiesel's 29 mpg fuel economy rating, reasonable upgrade price, and respectable power rating has placed considerable pressure on their competitors.
The EcoDiesel produces 240 horsepower and 420 lb-ft of torque at full load; the engine has been relatively untouched since its inception, though fuel economy was improved by 1 mpg for the 2016 model year when a high efficiency version of the EcoDiesel, dubbed the "HFE", was introduced. EcoDiesel engines are produced by Italian manufacturer VM Motori, whom Fiat Chrysler Automobiles fully acquired shortly before bringing the EcoDiesel to market.
For 2018, EcoDiesel equipped Ram 1500 models are rated to tow a maximum 9,240 lb and carry up to 1,600 lbs of payload, falling short of the 2018 Power Stroke equipped F-150's 11,400 lb towing capacity and 2,020 lb payload rating. The EcoDiesel isn't used to competition in the diesel segment as it's been the only offering (excluding the misguided Titan XD platform) in the 1/2 ton marketplace since its introduction, but only time will tell which powertrain combination attracts more customers from here on.
3.0L ECODIESEL RAM 1500 SPECS (2018 MY)
3.0L POWER STROKE
FORD F-150 POWER STROKE DIESEL
A diesel version of the Ford F-150 is not a new concept. In fact, Ford, like other manufacturers, taunted buyers with several potential diesel options many years ago. While none of the aforementioned diesel platforms materialized for the F-150, Ford fans can rejoice nonetheless - the 3.0L Power Stroke is on the horizon. Available the Spring of 2018, details of Ford's new 3.0L Power Stroke finally started trickling out in early January 2018.
The engine produces 250 peak horsepower and 440 lb-ft of peak torque, which matches closely with the 3.0L Lions diesel from which the Power Stroke is based on. While these figures marginally surpass Ram's EcoDiesel, the difference hardly suggests that the one will outperform the other under real-world conditions. Ford is also projected to outshine the Ram 1500 in terms of fuel economy. However, if the outcome of the EPA's test is in Ford favor, the Power Stroke will yield a mere 1 mpg advantage over the Ram.
Both the EcoDiesel and Power Stroke utilize weight saving CGI engine blocks and aluminum cylinder heads. Ford has rated the F-150 to tow substantially more than the EcoDiesel equipped Ram 1500 (11,400 vs 9,240 lbs), which may play a pivotal role in the F-150's popularity over the Ram considering the pool of buyers who desire fuel economy Monday through Friday and weekend towing confidence is relatively large. Only time will tell if the new F-150 will live up to years worth of heightening expectations.
3.0L POWER STROKE FORD F-150 SPECS (2018 MY)
Apple's and oranges, you are comparing ford's diesel to an engine that will not be available in the 5th generation. The old turbo diesel numbers were boosted this year for use in the jeep. Even those numbers beat Ford's numbers. The new engine hosts a number of improvements.The article above said this: "Curiously, the report says the engine won’t be the same 3.0-liter turbo diesel used in the previous Ram." I think the black eye they got over the reliability plus Ford's entry into the 1/2 ton diesel market is giving their engineers and marketing types reason to rethink things. Ford's 250 hp/440 Tq is the target, so hopefully they will use that rumored engine, best Ford but more importantly, address quality control!
Note: The specs for the Ford are better than the ecodiesel across the board, available hp at rpm, available tq at rpm, payload and tow ratings. Info derived from:
3.0L Power Stroke vs 3.0L EcoDiesel | Diesel F-150, Ram 1500 Comparison
Comparing the 2018 EcoDiesel equipped Ram 1500 to the upcoming 2018 Power Stroke equipped Ford F-150. The 3.0L Power Stroke and 3.0L EcoDiesel share similar qualities and performance characteritics, but will one outshine the other?3.0L ECODIESEL V-6
- DIESEL HUB
- ›
- COMPARISONS & BUYERS GUIDES
- ›
- 3.0L ECODIESEL VS 3.0L POWER STROKE
RAM 1500 ECODIESEL
Debuting for the 2014 model year, the EcoDiesel became the first diesel engine offered in a 1/2 ton pickup since GM ceased to offer their 6.5L Turbodiesel in Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra 1500 models. Upon announcement, FCA immediately received ridicule for passing on the [then] recently developed 5.0L V-8 from Cummins - the consequences of this decision will never be known. What is known is that the EcoDiesel's 29 mpg fuel economy rating, reasonable upgrade price, and respectable power rating has placed considerable pressure on their competitors.
The EcoDiesel produces 240 horsepower and 420 lb-ft of torque at full load; the engine has been relatively untouched since its inception, though fuel economy was improved by 1 mpg for the 2016 model year when a high efficiency version of the EcoDiesel, dubbed the "HFE", was introduced. EcoDiesel engines are produced by Italian manufacturer VM Motori, whom Fiat Chrysler Automobiles fully acquired shortly before bringing the EcoDiesel to market.
For 2018, EcoDiesel equipped Ram 1500 models are rated to tow a maximum 9,240 lb and carry up to 1,600 lbs of payload, falling short of the 2018 Power Stroke equipped F-150's 11,400 lb towing capacity and 2,020 lb payload rating. The EcoDiesel isn't used to competition in the diesel segment as it's been the only offering (excluding the misguided Titan XD platform) in the 1/2 ton marketplace since its introduction, but only time will tell which powertrain combination attracts more customers from here on.
3.0L ECODIESEL RAM 1500 SPECS (2018 MY)
3.0L POWER STROKE
FORD F-150 POWER STROKE DIESEL
A diesel version of the Ford F-150 is not a new concept. In fact, Ford, like other manufacturers, taunted buyers with several potential diesel options many years ago. While none of the aforementioned diesel platforms materialized for the F-150, Ford fans can rejoice nonetheless - the 3.0L Power Stroke is on the horizon. Available the Spring of 2018, details of Ford's new 3.0L Power Stroke finally started trickling out in early January 2018.
The engine produces 250 peak horsepower and 440 lb-ft of peak torque, which matches closely with the 3.0L Lions diesel from which the Power Stroke is based on. While these figures marginally surpass Ram's EcoDiesel, the difference hardly suggests that the one will outperform the other under real-world conditions. Ford is also projected to outshine the Ram 1500 in terms of fuel economy. However, if the outcome of the EPA's test is in Ford favor, the Power Stroke will yield a mere 1 mpg advantage over the Ram.
Both the EcoDiesel and Power Stroke utilize weight saving CGI engine blocks and aluminum cylinder heads. Ford has rated the F-150 to tow substantially more than the EcoDiesel equipped Ram 1500 (11,400 vs 9,240 lbs), which may play a pivotal role in the F-150's popularity over the Ram considering the pool of buyers who desire fuel economy Monday through Friday and weekend towing confidence is relatively large. Only time will tell if the new F-150 will live up to years worth of heightening expectations.
3.0L POWER STROKE FORD F-150 SPECS (2018 MY)
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I also wouldn't be surprised if the final numbers for the revised 3.0 are different from the numbers in the Jeep application--Ram's application of a given engine generally have different outputs than the same engine in other FCA vehicles, take the 3.6 as an example. In the JGC, it's rated at 295 hp and 260 ft-lbs, while it's rated at 305 hp and 269 ft-lbs in the 1500.
The Ram head honchos did say multiple times last year that when the 3.0 finally came out, it would have class leading numbers across the board, but I haven't heard any further statements like that since GM announced the specs of their diesel. I would be pleasantly surprised if it's more powerful than the GM.
The Ram head honchos did say multiple times last year that when the 3.0 finally came out, it would have class leading numbers across the board, but I haven't heard any further statements like that since GM announced the specs of their diesel. I would be pleasantly surprised if it's more powerful than the GM.
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