180 degree thermostat

[kayallen]

Not trying to sound like a smart Alec, so please don’t take it that way.
But just so you’re clear, even though water boils at 212 Degrees Fahrenheit…

Coolant and water, in a pressurized system, doesn’t boil anywhere near that.
obvious disclaimer.. as long as the right type of coolant, correct mixture, and the system is in fact sealed, no restrictions, etc., in other words, a properly functioning cooling system.

The fact you’re driving mostly highway.. little to no chance of it getting to hot, unless said system was an issue as posted above.

What you are probably smelling is coolant overflow tube venting into the atmosphere…. After checking coolant level several times, checking the overflow level, etc., I just let it be and worry about other things.

Thx..yeah I actually have waited quite a while..102k miles kinda thinking about it till I did this..just something I decided to do..I'm in texas so it's really hot most of the time..I just posted on here to get feedback on the fans..but didn't go so well..so yeah I'm not goin to worry about this I'm just going to get off this forum..thx

 

[kayallen]

Why not just pull the thermostat and run wide open if the benefit of running cooler is so great?

I would get a code..and not be able to annoy you..

 

[kayallen]

I mean, my 1966 D100 has a 180 tstat from the factory. But then again you didn't want the engines running hot to flash off the fuel before it entered CC. Fuel injected engines are quite a bit different

Thx vincent..I think I had one of those trucks!

 

[dajogejr]

Thx..yeah I actually have waited quite a while..102k miles kinda thinking about it till I did this..just something I decided to do..I'm in texas so it's really hot most of the time..I just posted on here to get feedback on the fans..but didn't go so well..so yeah I'm not goin to worry about this I'm just going to get off this forum..thx

I think there’s a distinction to be made between want and need.
The truck needs nothing, it’s running exactly as designed. At the operating temps most modern gas vehicles do, between 195 and 225, depending on what source you ask/look at/read.

Want… that’s all on you. You can want it to run 165 degrees, painted like a speedboat and turn on your windshield washers to simulate water/waves splashing about you… LOL.

Feel free to do whatever you want…your truck, your money.
Just make sure you’re able to separate the two. Sometimes that’s a bit blurry. I think in this case, though, it was a little more clear cut.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Thx..yeah I actually have waited quite a while..102k miles kinda thinking about it till I did this..just something I decided to do..I'm in texas so it's really hot most of the time..I just posted on here to get feedback on the fans..but didn't go so well..so yeah I'm not goin to worry about this I'm just going to get off this forum..thx

You got the answer to your question about the fans. Some others tried to educate you on engine temps, the tune, and engine performance. Those comments didn't match your opinion, doesn't mean they are wrong. Nobody was disrespectful in any of their comments. I guess if you just want to hear affirmations about changes you make, it might be better to stick with forums that match your opinions.

 

[silver billet]

I think there’s a distinction to be made between want and need.
The truck needs nothing, it’s running exactly as designed. At the operating temps most modern gas vehicles do, between 195 and 225, depending on what source you ask/look at/read.

Want… that’s all on you. You can want it to run 165 degrees, painted like a speedboat and turn on your windshield washers to simulate water/waves splashing about you… LOL.

Feel free to do whatever you want…your truck, your money.
Just make sure you’re able to separate the two. Sometimes that’s a bit blurry. I think in this case, though, it was a little more clear cut.

165 is a strawman, we're not looking to run at 165 so it's not really helping the discussion to paint us like we're crazy when we're not asking for those low temps.

The truck doesn't just run up to 225, I've had it up to 250 while towing before slowing down because it was still climbing. This is "not good". If yall just get groceries with your trucks then yes you're fine on the factory tstat.

 

[dajogejr]

165 is a strawman, we're not looking to run at 165 so it's not really helping the discussion to paint us like we're crazy when we're not asking for those low temps.

The truck doesn't just run up to 225, I've had it up to 250 while towing before slowing down because it was still climbing. This is "not good". If yall just get groceries with your trucks then yes you're fine on the factory tstat.

Speaking of boats…
I think you may have missed it and the point I was trying to make, note the paint job and washer fluid as waves/water reference.
Where did I say it only runs up to 225? I said the operating temps for most modern vehicles is 195 to 225.
I didn’t say towing a boat, where you float… or in the heat, in your seat.
That’s a Dr. Seuss reference, so that’s not misunderstood as a strawman argument either.

Silver, it may be time to step away…look up sarcasm and humor.

 

[silver billet]

Speaking of boats…
I think you may have missed it and the point I was trying to make, note the paint job and washer fluid as waves/water reference.
Where did I say it only runs up to 225? I said the operating temps for most modern vehicles is 195 to 225.
I didn’t say towing a boat, where you float… or in the heat, in your seat.
That’s a Dr. Seuss reference, so that’s not misunderstood as a strawman argument either.

Silver, it may be time to step away…look up sarcasm and humor.

The reason some of us are using a 180 is because the operating temp of these trucks goes far past 225, which you would know if you worked it.

The only reason these temps are even hitting 225 is for "fuel efficiency". Drop in a 180 and your temps are not likely to exceed 200 unless you're idling excessively or towing. Heat kills, a cool engine always lasts longer than a hotter one all else being equal.

 

[kapinallinen2]

I would get a code..and not be able to annoy you..

C`mon man.. you do not annoy me. Stick with us, there is good info here.
Just curious about any possible codes that would result from pulling the T-stat?

 

[Richard320]

C`mon man.. you do not annoy me. Stick with us, there is good info here.
Just curious about any possible codes that would result from pulling the T-stat?

P0128 would likely be set

 

[dajogejr]

The reason some of us are using a 180 is because the operating temp of these trucks goes far past 225, which you would know if you worked it.

The only reason these temps are even hitting 225 is for "fuel efficiency". Drop in a 180 and your temps are not likely to exceed 200 unless you're idling excessively or towing. Heat kills, a cool engine always lasts longer than a hotter one all else being equal.

Billet, take time off.
You again, completely missed the sarcastic comment to begin with.
Then responded defending your position based on a sarcastic/joke comment, again, without even taking the time to realize the original comment was made as a joke.

Did you happen to skim PAST the part I said paint it like a boat and spray the washer solvent to simulate waves.
Good god man… you must be the life of the party.
Everything doesn’t need to be a technical argument where you think you’re the smartest guy in the room.

Take. Time. Off.

 

[frisby5]

How easy to change the tstat? Will it affect my warranty , Can i change my fan settings in Alfa obd?

 

[silver billet]

Billet, take time off.
You again, completely missed the sarcastic comment to begin with.
Then responded defending your position based on a sarcastic/joke comment, again, without even taking the time to realize the original comment was made as a joke.

Did you happen to skim PAST the part I said paint it like a boat and spray the washer solvent to simulate waves.
Good god man… you must be the life of the party.
Everything doesn’t need to be a technical argument where you think you’re the smartest guy in the room.

Take. Time. Off.

You're apparently far more stressed out about this then I am lol. Take your own advice, sheesh.

 

[silver billet]

How easy to change the tstat? Will it affect my warranty , Can i change my fan settings in Alfa obd?

In theory it shouldn't, there is no way a tstat swap can negatively effect your engine unless you do something silly like drain your coolant system dry while you're in there and not refill with anitfreeze. But yes it will affect your warranty if they want to void it for any reason, and yes you can try and fight it but the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

 

[stevieb92]

I've been running a Stant 180 thermostat in my truck for a few weeks now with several hundred miles. No codes.

 

[HSKR R/T]

165 is a strawman, we're not looking to run at 165 so it's not really helping the discussion to paint us like we're crazy when we're not asking for those low temps.

The truck doesn't just run up to 225, I've had it up to 250 while towing before slowing down because it was still climbing. This is "not good". If yall just get groceries with your trucks then yes you're fine on the factory tstat.

You do realize a lower temp thermostat wouldnt have prevented engine temps from rising that high while towing? If the cooling system is working properly, you should never get more than 10 degrees above the fan turn on temp, and if driving at freeway speeds, the airflow through the radiator from your speed is more than the e-fan can wver pull. So if you overheated driving on the freeway, towing or not, the issue isn't your thermostat temp rating

 

[dajogejr]

You're apparently far more stressed out about this than I am lol. Take your own advice, sheesh.

No, I’m just saying what others are thinking.
Not every post is your opportunity to show people how smart you think you are.
Again, get a life.

You do realize a lower temp thermostat wouldnt have prevented engine temps from rising that high while towing? If the cooling system is working properly, you should never get more than 10 degrees above the fan turn on temp, and if driving at freeway speeds, the airflow through the radiator from your speed is more than the e-fan can wver pull. So if you overheated driving on the freeway, towing or not, the issue isn't your thermostat temp rating

Here comes an amateur math and life lesson…

 

[HSKR R/T]

Here comes an amateur math and life lesson…

Nope, just facts

 

[vincentw56]

Nope, just facts

Um, apparently using facts means you are ignorant.

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

You do realize a lower temp thermostat wouldnt have prevented engine temps from rising that high while towing? If the cooling system is working properly, you should never get more than 10 degrees above the fan turn on temp, and if driving at freeway speeds, the airflow through the radiator from your speed is more than the e-fan can wver pull. So if you overheated driving on the freeway, towing or not, the issue isn't your thermostat temp rating

Have to agree here. If you have a 220 that and you are hitting 250, well it is open at 220, so what difference does it make if it opens at 180? It is still circulating 250 coolant.

That said, while my truck is a slow mass produced pickup truck like you guys drive I leave it stock for that reason, my car has a 180 Stat. Why? Because while they had it apart putting in a cam, I replaced all the other parts. And the tuner said I should. So what's another $20?