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silver billet

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Have you considered taking your own advice? 10s of pages later, still sounding like a broken record. Hemi gone, big cry, time to soil my depends in protest! All you others who like turbos are girly men! /s

Dude I moved on three years ago, you're the one who is posting nothing but flame bait.
 

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The Rebel seems to always get the worst mileage not sure if it is the duratrac tires or what.
I really like tfl truck but how they check gas mileage is not the most accurate. The epa does not check mileage this way. If the ram fuel tank allowed and extra .5 gallons and the Ford was short a half a gallon, that's almost a 4 mpg swing. I more accurate way would be a longer loop and weigh the trucks before and after. I'll ask them to do this on there next test.
 

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I really like tfl truck but how they check gas mileage is not the most accurate. The epa does not check mileage this way. If the ram fuel tank allowed and extra .5 gallons and the Ford was short a half a gallon, that's almost a 4 mpg swing. I more accurate way would be a longer loop and weigh the trucks before and after. I'll ask them to do this on there next test.
They really need to do long term fuel mileage tests. At least one full tank, but preferably get an average over three. The short loop they do leaves a lot of variables on the table. Doesn't matter how much they try to replicate the procedure.
 

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They really need to do long term fuel mileage tests. At least one full tank, but preferably get an average over three. The short loop they do leaves a lot of variables on the table. Doesn't matter how much they try to replicate the procedure.
Agree - 20 or 50 mile round trip is meaningless.
topping off the tank after 30 seconds is meaningless also!
I like TFL, and watch 90% of their shows in the past 5 years. - however, their gas mileage test is a useless gimmick at best. Most businesses are trying to justify their existence and therefore they need to create a "signature" differentiator/process!
At the end of the day, I could careless, I don't buy anything based on the web reviews only.
 
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They really need to do long term fuel mileage tests. At least one full tank, but preferably get an average over three. The short loop they do leaves a lot of variables on the table. Doesn't matter how much they try to replicate the procedure.
At least the did all 3 trucks at the same time. Because temp and wind make huge difference in mpg
 

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TFL has plenty of faults, their testing for the naturally aspirated engines is largely useless. Most of the population (95% +) buying these trucks doesn’t live in the mountains like them where an N/A engine is down 40-50 HP so their poor acceleration tests are sort of non relevant for most of us. It’s sort of a lose-lose. The turbocharged engines are also getting worse economy up there as they over boost to compensate, and the V8’s are down on power. This is why Car+Driver, MotorTrend, MotorWeek all test at sea level…where testing should be done.
 

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It’s kinda like the energy saving guide on appliances, the info is formulated from HP/watts that the manufacture labels on the motor specs. So the appliance manufacture bases the energy use on those specs and turns off the heaters in the doors, thats the switch inside the refrigerator that instructs you to turn on if you experience sweating around the door gaskets. If you turn that on then it uses more energy that they then have to calculate, with it off the energy use is less. Also the SEER ratings on HVAC equipment are based on the HP of the motors. Carrier is known for this and that’s why if I replaced a condensing fan motor with an aftermarket motor (saving big dollars for the customer) I would spec it out up to the next HP rating. The same specs aftermarket motors, for Carrier applications would always over amp, and I’d have to go back to the parts house and get a higher HP motor, so I learned to just go up to the next HP avoiding Carrier motors. The manufactures order thousands of motors from GE or wherever so they have say in the engineering of said motors. Its the quickest way to meet the newest SEER ratings.
 

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I don't mean to be disrespectful or, engage in an ongoing useless debate over useless topics.
What does any of this have to do with a 2025 1500 with a Hurricane engine??

Some of us have bought the 2025 and some of us are looking at buying it, there are 93 pages on this thread and 80 pages are useless expressions of opinions about meaningless topics.
We are not electing any officials or changing the global policies, curing hunger, etc. etc. etc. - we have just bought/or trying to buy a 2025 truck.
Please - be on topic.
 

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MPG per window sticker is relevant, I believe (opinion) that they are inflated to help their CAFE standard. ( I got it right this time @HSKR R/T ) that was what my last post was about, manufactures cheating the system to help meet the Government regulations. I agree we have been beating our chests, and I'll step up to the plate and apologize. 2025 Bighorn Crew 4X4 V6 = 19 city 24 highway 21 overall //// 3.0 = 17 city 24 highway 19 overall. The weird part is the price difference is not much more for the Hurricane and if optioned right the 3.0 Hurricane can be cheaper than the V6.
 

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I don't mean to be disrespectful or, engage in an ongoing useless debate over useless topics.
What does any of this have to do with a 2025 1500 with a Hurricane engine??

Some of us have bought the 2025 and some of us are looking at buying it, there are 93 pages on this thread and 80 pages are useless expressions of opinions about meaningless topics.
We are not electing any officials or changing the global policies, curing hunger, etc. etc. etc. - we have just bought/or trying to buy a 2025 truck.
Please - be on topic.
I'm not bothered by intelligent analogies.
 

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MPG per window sticker is relevant, I believe (opinion) that they are inflated to help their CAFE standard. ( I got it right this time @HSKR R/T ) that was what my last post was about, manufactures cheating the system to help meet the Government regulations. I agree we have been beating our chests, and I'll step up to the plate and apologize. 2025 Bighorn Crew 4X4 V6 = 19 city 24 highway 21 overall //// 3.0 = 17 city 24 highway 19 overall. The weird part is the price difference is not much more for the Hurricane and if optioned right the 3.0 Hurricane can be cheaper than the V6.
Take a look at the procedure the the epa uses to get those numbers. Their highway test isn't how we think it should be. It's really so far off reality, it's ridiculous.
 

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I don't mean to be disrespectful or, engage in an ongoing useless debate over useless topics.
What does any of this have to do with a 2025 1500 with a Hurricane engine??

Some of us have bought the 2025 and some of us are looking at buying it, there are 93 pages on this thread and 80 pages are useless expressions of opinions about meaningless topics.
We are not electing any officials or changing the global policies, curing hunger, etc. etc. etc. - we have just bought/or trying to buy a 2025 truck.
Please - be on topic.
Might not be a bad idea to start a "2025 Owners" thread.
 

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Wow, I couldn't read all the nonsense here but I did get this far to post from @Ramroo
I know the hemi will pull it, but has to work hard sometimes. Needs more torque IMO.
Ramroo, can I point out that some nice 3.92 rears might get you that torque you are looking for? It is power at the wheels that counts.

You ain't my Bro either! 🤣
 

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Take a look at the procedure the the epa uses to get those numbers. Their highway test isn't how we think it should be. It's really so far off reality, it's ridiculous.

I disagree, the test is consistent and shows relative numbers compared to other cars/trucks/engines. If you see higher numbers in the EPA for truck A vs truck B, its almost guaranteed that regardless of your driving style you will get better MPG in truck A. Your conditions might not be good enough to get the exact number the EPA got, but you should be getting better in the truck they got better in vs a truck they go worse in.

Where people go wrong is driving at 75mph expecting to meet or beat those numbers.

They could improve the testing by making brands get tested for every specific trim that can change the numbers significantly, so something like a rebel should definitely be retested vs a tradesman 3.21.

I have no trouble matching and exceeding EPA numbers in my truck whatsoever, but I sit at 60 to 65 mpg while doing so as well. I get that not everybody has the stomach for that, but then the relative numbers (truck A vs B) are still useful even if you don't get the exact numbers on the sheet.
 

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