Thanks for the quick reply, picked up a 24" breaker bar and made quick work of it all. The TSB says no power tools, so that's the route I took as well. Took about an hour total from setup to take down.Probably PART of my problem was that i could just ughadugga them off my self with a long handle ratcheti have an extending handle hammer ratchet that is among my most used tools and gave me the leverage I needed.