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I don't know why we're discussing highest speeds in snow like its a badge of honor to be attained.:cautious:

Snow is no joke; and if it is, its not one that I find particularly funny. Once the winter hits, I make no promises to anyone where punctuality is concerned. I get there when I get there! If you can't handle that, then that's a 'you' problem.

I've been in the medical field for over 2 decades and I know all too well what can happen from one bad instance or judgement on the road. In most occasions, death ends up being the easy way out.

Y'all run your numbers and prove your manhood all you want, but when shyte goes sideways, make sure not to take anyone else with you.....whether you're going into the ditch, over a cliff, up the heavenly escalator, or free-falling in the other direction.
At 70mph with an average friction value for snow of 0.40, the stopping distance is over 400 ft. It is extremely dangerous.
 

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Just installed FitCamX, 4k front and 1080 rear. Took about 20 min start to finish. Ran my rear cable along the bottom of the passenger side and had about 6” of extra cable that I tucked into the rear passenger seat belt trim.

Quality is good and app works better than the others I tried. Fit and finish is perfect and other than the Fitcam sticker on the side, it looks factory.

 

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I don't know why we're discussing highest speeds in snow like its a badge of honor to be attained.:cautious:

Snow is no joke; and if it is, its not one that I find particularly funny. Once the winter hits, I make no promises to anyone where punctuality is concerned. I get there when I get there! If you can't handle that, then that's a 'you' problem.

I've been in the medical field for over 2 decades and I know all too well what can happen from one bad instance or judgement on the road. In most occasions, death ends up being the easy way out.

Y'all run your numbers and prove your manhood all you want, but when shyte goes sideways, make sure not to take anyone else with you.....whether you're going into the ditch, over a cliff, up the heavenly escalator, or free-falling in the other direction.
The speed isn't what kills, it's the stop at the end. Knowing your vehicle, and having good tires are the best things you can do. Being the one guy on the road driving slow, being overly cautious, is more dangerous than going flow of traffic. I'd say more wrecks are caused by slow drivers than those speeding.
 

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The speed isn't what kills, it's the stop at the end. Knowing your vehicle, and having good tires are the best things you can do. Being the one guy on the road driving slow, being overly cautious, is more dangerous than going flow of traffic. I'd say more wrecks are caused by slow drivers than those speeding.
Beg to differ

-source: traffic officer
 

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holy **** that reminds me... it's been almost 13 years since I last drove in East Lansing, MI and I probably will have to make a trip up to Bozeman, MT from SoCal in the next couple weeks. Now I'm nervous about my driving ability when there's white powder on the road lol

hopefully it stays clear!
You use it, or you lose it. lol
 

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Beg to differ

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Because you only see the aftermath, after the idiot driving 30 MPH on the freeway causes. If conditions aren't good enough to drive the speed limit, you shouldn't be driving. I drive the limit, even in snow, if the conditions warrant it, and if the conditions don't warrant full speed, I stay home.
 

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Beg to differ

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Are you the traffic officer? If everyone else in the road is driving the speed limit, and come upon someone driving significantly slower than the speed limit, the chances of a wreck are greater. And it's not because of the cars doing the speed limit. Same with people who can't grasp the concept of reaching freeway speeds prior to merging from an onramp. And these are usually, also the people who feel the freeway traffic is supposed to hold to them merging in to 70moh traffic at 45mph.
 

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Are you the traffic officer? If everyone else in the road is driving the speed limit, and come upon someone driving significantly slower than the speed limit, the chances of a wreck are greater. And it's not because of the cars doing the speed limit. Same with people who can't grasp the concept of reaching freeway speeds prior to merging from an onramp. And these are usually, also the people who feel the freeway traffic is supposed to hold to them merging in to 70moh traffic at 45mph.
I am. I’m not denying people like that cause collisions. They are just not the majority.
 

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Are you the traffic officer? If everyone else in the road is driving the speed limit, and come upon someone driving significantly slower than the speed limit, the chances of a wreck are greater. And it's not because of the cars doing the speed limit. Same with people who can't grasp the concept of reaching freeway speeds prior to merging from an onramp. And these are usually, also the people who feel the freeway traffic is supposed to hold to them merging in to 70moh traffic at 45mph.
Agree with this, but like everything is nuanced.
You can't expect to drive as you do in the dry, but it's imperative you keep up with the flow. If your vehicle is not capable of this, it has no business being out in these conditions.

Also, what usually goes along with snow storm?
Poor visibility.

Can't count how many times over the years I've seen folks barely miss someone dawdling down these Colorado freeways at 5 mph when the surrounding traffic is more like 30-45mph.

Those people cause others to take evasive actions, and I've watched several unfold poorly for the evader. Likely confirming in the slowpoke's mind that it sure is a good thing they are going so slow.

One could argue then that we should all go 5mph on the freeway.
That only works if you have nowhere to be in the first place, in which case you should just stay home.
 

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Because you only see the aftermath, after the idiot driving 30 MPH on the freeway causes. If conditions aren't good enough to drive the speed limit, you shouldn't be driving. I drive the limit, even in snow, if the conditions warrant it, and if the conditions don't warrant full speed, I stay home.
Come on man!

You drive a 5th gen ram so I want to believe that you are sensible. Incorporate some of that sense in your comments.....

Speed limits are set based on normal driving conditions. That is why the word "maximum" is included on the signs.

If the conditions are less than normal, then driving the limit is ill-advised.
 

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Come on man!

You drive a 5th gen ram so I want to believe that you are sensible. Incorporate some of that sense in your comments.....

Speed limits are set based on normal driving conditions. That is why the word "maximum" is included on the signs.

If the conditions are less than normal, then driving the limit is ill-advised.
If you can't do the limit, then you shouldn't be on the road. I'm 65, and have never lost control in snow due to speed. If roads can't be driven at speed, they shouldn't be driven. Stay home. When I did work, if conditions were beyond safe driving, I called in.
 

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The speed isn't what kills, it's the stop at the end. Knowing your vehicle, and having good tires are the best things you can do. Being the one guy on the road driving slow, being overly cautious, is more dangerous than going flow of traffic. I'd say more wrecks are caused by slow drivers than those speeding.
There is no sure way to avoid being in an accident, I agree. Hell, I was almost crushed yesterday and it would have been just because I was standing still at the wrong place at the wrong time.

With that said, I see no reason to increase the chances of being in a wreck by being unnecessarily risky. The "stop at the end" will only kill if the speed that preceded it was high enough. There are such things as "too slow" and "overly cautious" and I am not advocating for those. What I am saying is that vehicular control decreases as speed increases. That is true for a Ram, a BMW, a Boeing 757, a F35 or a cargo train.

Adding a layer of slick, white, wrath-of-nature to the mix only increases the probability of things going wrong. One should not and cannot expect equal driving experiences on snowy and dry roads and, as such, their behaviors should not be equal on both sides of the fence.
 

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If you can't do the limit, then you shouldn't be on the road. I'm 65, and have never lost control in snow due to speed. If roads can't be driven at speed, they shouldn't be driven. Stay home. When I did work, if conditions were beyond safe driving, I called in.
Ok.
 

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There is no sure way to avoid being in an accident, I agree. Hell, I was almost crushed yesterday and it would have been just because I was standing still at the wrong place at the wrong time.

With that said, I see no reason to increase the chances of being in a wreck by being unnecessarily risky. The "stop at the end" will only kill if the speed that preceded it was high enough. There are such things as "too slow" and "overly cautious" and I am not advocating for those. What I am saying is that vehicular control decreases as speed increases. That is true for a Ram, a BMW, a Boeing 757, a F35 or a cargo train.

Adding a layer of slick, white, wrath-of-nature to the mix only increases the probability of things going wrong. One should not and cannot expect equal driving experiences on snowy and dry roads and, as such, their behaviors should not be equal on both sides of the fence.
I'm just saying some people know how to drive in snow, and the ones who don't should stay off the roads, so people who know how to, can.
 

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I understand that xways may be the only road between/thru areas in places like the Colorado mtns, but around here there are any number of parallel 2 lane roads, so if the slowpokes are too scared at any speed less than the flow of traffic, including weather related, they should be on those. I honk at every one of them I pass. And yes, they cause accidents, not as many as too fast for conditions, but the fast ones usually at least take themselves out, while the slowpokes most of the time doodle away from the scene, completely oblivious. We have no traffic enforcement for obstruction during winter and no enforcement of left lane loafers all year round, after paying taxes.

/Rant over 😄
 

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There is no sure way to avoid being in an accident, I agree. Hell, I was almost crushed yesterday and it would have been just because I was standing still at the wrong place at the wrong time.

With that said, I see no reason to increase the chances of being in a wreck by being unnecessarily risky. The "stop at the end" will only kill if the speed that preceded it was high enough. There are such things as "too slow" and "overly cautious" and I am not advocating for those. What I am saying is that vehicular control decreases as speed increases. That is true for a Ram, a BMW, a Boeing 757, a F35 or a cargo train.

Adding a layer of slick, white, wrath-of-nature to the mix only increases the probability of things going wrong. One should not and cannot expect equal driving experiences on snowy and dry roads and, as such, their behaviors should not be equal on both sides of the fence.
Most of the time, the roads in winter are cleared quickly by snow plows. Obviously if road is snow covered, caution should be followed, but that doesn't mean driving well under flow of traffic. As 6of36 mentioned, if you are too scared to drive the same speed as others on the road, you should probably just stay off the roads.

I've never been in an accident caused by inclement weather. I am usually driving faster than most in those conditions. But I also understand stopping distances are increased, so start slowing down sooner and use engine braking as much as possible. the worst I have driven in was near white out conditions on I40 from pretty much the panhandle of Texas all the way to Albuquerque, NM where they shut down the interstate and forced me to exit. I was in my RWD Dakota R/T on all season high performance BFG G-Force KDWS tires. I was still able to do 50-55 mph on, unplowed, snow covered roads, passing truckers and what few other cars there were on the road. Only time the tires ever spun was when I would do it on purpose to test traction.

I like to tell people who have never driven in snow before, treat your gas and bake pedals as if there is a raw egg on them and you are trying not the break the egg.
 

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Gave it a good bath today finally. Got back from our trip to Mississippi last Friday and washed the trailer first. IMG_20231025_144805_831.jpg IMG_20231025_144739_431.jpg Also went by the dealership yesterday to have them look at an oil leak. When I get my matching spare wheel, I'll have them do a oil change and tire rotation, and then they can see what's up with the oil leak while it's on the rack.
 

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Most of the time, the roads in winter are cleared quickly by snow plows. Obviously if road is snow covered, caution should be followed, but that doesn't mean driving well under flow of traffic. As 6of36 mentioned, if you are too scared to drive the same speed as others on the road, you should probably just stay off the roads.

I've never been in an accident caused by inclement weather. I am usually driving faster than most in those conditions. But I also understand stopping distances are increased, so start slowing down sooner and use engine braking as much as possible. the worst I have driven in was near white out conditions on I40 from pretty much the panhandle of Texas all the way to Albuquerque, NM where they shut down the interstate and forced me to exit. I was in my RWD Dakota R/T on all season high performance BFG G-Force KDWS tires. I was still able to do 50-55 mph on, unplowed, snow covered roads, passing truckers and what few other cars there were on the road. Only time the tires ever spun was when I would do it on purpose to test traction.

I like to tell people who have never driven in snow before, treat your gas and bake pedals as if there is a raw egg on them and you are trying not the break the egg.
Driving on snow is tricky. But I much prefer snow over ice....and that's all that the plow trucks around here are good for. They may as well be Zambonis because all that's left after they come by is a hockey-rink of death.
 

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