Removing cell modem?

[John Galt]

Make sure you get your insurance discount before you go yanking it.
You can get proof of it by logging onto your Mopar account on a web browser under subscriptions.

if my vehicle is stolen I don’t want it back. Who knows what happened to it or how it was damaged. Theft recovery is the equivalent of a salvage title in most states.

just give me the insurance money and call it done.

 

[6of36]

That’s not the point. Two wrongs make a right. “I don’t do bad things so I’m not worried about it” is frankly the laziest most complacent argument ever. The 4th amendment is for everyone and if you don’t defend it you lose it.

My cell phone is not the same. I can turn it off. I can put it in airplane mode and still use the tools on it. I can install a vpn proxy on my cell phone and block traffic I want to block and even at the OS level I can block network access to specific apps and features. I have no choice and no control over Uconnect and it functions like a black box with no documentation.

all I’m doing is creating my own “opt out” which should be part of the product.

when I lived in the Soviet Union “if you have nothing to hide you won’t mind if we look” was the pretext used by the KGB to do whatever they wanted to whoever they wanted. It’s mid-boggling to me that lazy complacent Americans welcome this and even make excuses for it. You have no idea what you’re asking for.

Maybe I take it more seriously because I had to EARN being called an American.

Your phone is still trackable when turned off. You have to pull the battery to stop tracking.

 

[John Galt]

Your phone is still trackable when turned off. You have to pull the battery to stop tracking.

it doesn’t matter. Like I said two wrongs don’t make a right. The question was “how do I disable UC5‘s cell connection” not “discuss the merit of the request“.

 

[beetlespin]

That’s not the point. Two wrongs make a right. “I don’t do bad things so I’m not worried about it” is frankly the laziest most complacent argument ever. The 4th amendment is for everyone and if you don’t defend it you lose it.

My cell phone is not the same. I can turn it off. I can put it in airplane mode and still use the tools on it. I can install a vpn proxy on my cell phone and block traffic I want to block and even at the OS level I can block network access to specific apps and features. I have no choice and no control over Uconnect and it functions like a black box with no documentation.

all I’m doing is creating my own “opt out” which should be part of the product.

when I lived in the Soviet Union “if you have nothing to hide you won’t mind if we look” was the pretext used by the KGB to do whatever they wanted to whoever they wanted. It’s mid-boggling to me that lazy complacent Americans welcome this and even make excuses for it. You have no idea what you’re asking for.

Maybe I take it more seriously because I had to EARN being called an American.

A VPN proxy is the biggest scam there is. That VPN proxy provider is now the snooper. All of your data goes through their proxy and they do save it.

 

[John Galt]

A VPN proxy is the biggest scam there is. That VPN proxy provider is now the snooper. All of your data goes through their proxy and they do save it.

No. It’s my own local vpn proxy with a whitelist/blacklist. Not one of those commercial ones. It lives on the phone itself. It’s a work around for apple’s lack of user control over the hosts file. The android phone doesn’t need that because it’s rooted and I can just edit the hosts file. I created my own opt-out. Looking to do the same with uconnect.

i really wish we could all stop arguing about how stupid I am for not just giving up and letting everyone who wants to spy on me spy on me and start talking about actually disabling the cell modem which is the actual thread topic.

how about this. I don’t care HOW stupid or futile it is. It’s my truck and I want to customize it. forget about why if that helps.

 

[Darksteel165]

Local VPN proxy is news to me and I work in IT.
VPN connects you to another network, for example mine connects me to my local home network via a Sonicwall, then I can do full tunnel where all network traffic goes home and to my phone encrypted so my phone carrier can't see what it is, but my home does.

If it's local to your phone it wouldn't do anything except possibly filter dns but wouldn't hide anything. You could try and poison all of Apple's addresses/names with bogus IPs but that seems like an insane amount of work and you wouldn't even be able to update apps in the store unless you turn it off.

I'm more interested on how easy it is to remove our dash and get to that all powerful black box and see if the actual modem can be removed like prior years.

 

[John Galt]

I work in IT too

I basically run everything through a vpn service set up on the phone so all traffic runs via vpn to localhost where once I have it, I can filter everything before it leaves my phone. This gives me control over DNS locally and I can block traffic to/from any IP address or address range. There’s also a traffic snooper where I can run an app, see who it tries to talk to, identify who I do and don’t want the app talking to, and block those addresses via dns. A lot of work, sure but it’s not like I’m installing new apps every day.

now…onto disabling the cell modem in unconnect……

 

[Cbty2050]

UC5 is a separate module behind the upper dash glove box.

This is false. You all are looking for the Global Telematics box/TBM.

 

[Scap]

This is false. You all are looking for the Global Telematics box/TBM.

Your attachment shows the module behind the upper glove box, which is what I said.

 

[Cbty2050]

Your attachment shows the module behind the upper glove box, which is what I said.

UC5 is not a module, you can have UC5 and not have a connected vehicle. That is the Telematics Module, NOT UC5. Like I have stated

Ask @Darksteel165 how to remove the battery from UC5, that will fix it.

 

[Darksteel165]

UC5 is not a module, you can have UC5 and not have a connected vehicle. That is the Telematics Module, NOT UC5. Like I have stated

Ask @Darksteel165 how to remove the battery from UC5, that will fix it.

Saw that coming a mile away.

 

[Darksteel165]

This is false. You all are looking for the Global Telematics box/TBM.

Does 23 - Body/Instrument Panel/GLOVE BOX, Instrument Panel, Upper/Removal and Installation show how to properly remove all the trim, or does it already assume you have the radio trim removed?

The device looks different then the diagram I got from someone else, it appeared like there were 3 cables into the device and was small rectangle shaped box.

Looks like disconnecting #2 removes the antenna, but that might be for LTE AND gps. I wonder if the TBM2 is a sealed unit or if I can open it once I get to it and desolder the modem.
I wonder which antennas are in the shark fin? Just XM and fm\am I guess.

 

[Cbty2050]

Does 23 - Body/Instrument Panel/GLOVE BOX, Instrument Panel, Upper/Removal and Installation show how to properly remove all the trim, or does it already assume you have the radio trim removed?

The device looks different then the diagram I got from someone else, it appeared like there were 3 cables into the device and was small rectangle shaped box.

Looks like disconnecting #2 removes the antenna, but that might be for LTE AND gps. I wonder if the TBM2 is a sealed unit or if I can open it once I get to it and desolder the modem.
I wonder which antennas are in the shark fin? Just XM and fm\am I guess.

Service info does a decent job w/ clickable links to get the job done. I am certain the device can be opened up, there is a cover that can be removed for a battery .

 

[Darksteel165]

Service info does a decent job w/ clickable links to get the job done. I am certain the device can be opened up, there is a cover that can be removed for a battery .

Can you also post 23 - Body/Instrument Panel/BEZEL, Instrument Panel/Removal and Installation please.

I will take mine apart and make sure to show you an battery inside at some point.

 

[Scap]

UC5 is not a module, you can have UC5 and not have a connected vehicle. That is the Telematics Module, NOT UC5. Like I have stated

Ask @Darksteel165 how to remove the battery from UC5, that will fix it.

You're splitting hairs.
He was asking about the telematics on a uc5, which is why I said the uc5 is behind the upper glove box. "Telematics module" was implied.

 

[Cbty2050]

Can you also post 23 - Body/Instrument Panel/BEZEL, Instrument Panel/Removal and Installation please.

I will take mine apart and make sure to show you an battery inside at some point.

I left that one off on purpose, I figured you knew how to remove the radio bezel trim.

 

[Darksteel165]

I left that one off on purpose, I figured you knew how to remove the radio bezel trim.

I think it just pops off but I have never tried.
I try not to remove things unless I need to as it's pretty easy to break clips, or clip mounts.

The plastic cover for the spare jack has holes in the plastic where the metal clip was before it snapped off for example, metal either got bent too far or was too brittle and fell apart. It just sits there now and my floor mats keeps it in place.

 

[Darksteel165]

You're splitting hairs.
He was asking about the telematics on a uc5, which is why I said the uc5 is behind the upper glove box. "Telematics module" was implied.

While I agree it might be splitting hairs, UC5 is technically the software.
The "Telematics module" provinces connects to the head unit but there is nothing uconnect5 about it.
The naming of some of devices are odd, and not public knowledge as we as consumers don't really get a manual for anything here, just the basics.

 

[Cbty2050]

You're splitting hairs.
He was asking about the telematics on a uc5, which is why I said the uc5 is behind the upper glove box. "Telematics module" was implied.

I am not splitting hairs. I am correcting you.

 

[Cbty2050]

I think it just pops off but I have never tried.
I try not to remove things unless I need to as it's pretty easy to break clips, or clip mounts.

The plastic cover for the spare jack has holes in the plastic where the metal clip was before it snapped off for example, metal either got bent too far or was too brittle and fell apart. It just sits there now and my floor mats keeps it in place.

It sucks working on these cars, so much stuff breaks with such little effort. Yesterday I was fortunate enough to install missing front sunroof drains on a brand new Grand Cherokee L. I have removed 100's of sill/skuff plates, this thing snapped with such little effort.