securityguy
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2025 Ram REV Just a Regular 1500 Truck With Electric Underpants
The electrified Ram combines the old 1500 body with a new EV chassis.
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2025 Ram REV Just a Regular 1500 Truck With Electric Underpants
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INVISBLE
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pretty underwhelming for sure...
popcenator
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You can't drastically redesign a truck otherwise people will complain about how it looks like garbage or another brands garbage, and you can't familiarize a new concept because people will ask what happened to the concept. There's no winning, as there never is with redesigns.
n8zcc
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It likely can tow but how much and how far is the issue. From what I've seen, no EV pickup can do what most of us drive a pickup do. Then there are the issues of recharging and the time it takes to recharge.No, it likely can't tow.
My son, who drives a Bolt around town told me the new fad is now charging people that leave their EVs in a charger spot after it is recharged.
popcenator
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Snagged this from Facebook. They're claiming it can tow, but for how long is the better question.
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Dewey
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Just get rid of the lighted RAM emblems and it will look great. Nice to see an EV look like an actual truck instead of that futuristic look. I like it much better than the prototype.
WXman
Ram Guru
The weight from the battery pack puts this truck into 1-ton gas pickup territory in terms of curb weight. That's why it can tow 14,000 lbs. They went with 8-lug axles and that was the only thing holding the 1500 series trucks back. The laws of physics are always present. I'm quite certain that this truck will easily tow to its rated capacity, especially since all automakers are on board now with SAE J2807.
As mentioned the only question is how far can you tow a trailer before you have to start searching for a charge station? If we look at the F-150 with extended range battery, we've seen those getting around 100 miles of range while towing in the real world. BUT, most people are going to need to leave a reserve in the battery because you don't always have a charge station in-line with your route. So let's say effectively you've got 75 miles between stops. RAM is claiming 180 more miles of range when unloaded, so if we do the math maybe we're at 60 miles of towing range over the Ford. So you're still having to stop every 135ish miles or so. Probably won't be a big deal for local jobs, but people driving long trips on vacations are not going to want to put up with that.
As mentioned the only question is how far can you tow a trailer before you have to start searching for a charge station? If we look at the F-150 with extended range battery, we've seen those getting around 100 miles of range while towing in the real world. BUT, most people are going to need to leave a reserve in the battery because you don't always have a charge station in-line with your route. So let's say effectively you've got 75 miles between stops. RAM is claiming 180 more miles of range when unloaded, so if we do the math maybe we're at 60 miles of towing range over the Ford. So you're still having to stop every 135ish miles or so. Probably won't be a big deal for local jobs, but people driving long trips on vacations are not going to want to put up with that.
n8zcc
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Up to 14K of tow load but how far can I tow it? What happens in colder weather, say around freezing or in hot weather? How is the range affected or the charging speed affected by ambient temperatures? So much not said is the troubling part.
We are seeing a lot of YT videos with real-world use of EVs and the results aren't all that good. Physics is in the way of the EV hype. The bigger and heavier the vehicle the more kilowatts of storage it needs which means the longer it takes to recharge. Factor in battery chemistry with respect to ambient temperature and the recharge times grow, significantly.
There is a lot of talk about new and emerging battery technologies but why don't you see them? Well, the truth is the new technologies being discovered are not practical because the internal resistance of the chemistry is high thus lowering the amount of current the battery can provide on demand. We have a long way to go before we get there.
And who wants to pay twice or three times the cost for an EV that limits your usage?
Darksteel165
Legendary member
It's not a redesign if it's a brand new truck...
God forbid a new product line doesn't look like an existing one
Biga
Ram Guru
It is still the same interior we've had since 2019 just higher end trim level. Still the best interior out thier, just surprised they don't change up the overall look a bit.
popcenator
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I do agree that redesign probably isn't the best descriptor there but I was only referring to the exterior. A brand new truck is kind of a stretch, changing the power train doesn't make it a new truck, especially when it looks practically the same and the current gen Ram. It's just a variation.
That was kinda my point. You're going to get people whining from both sides. Those that can't handle drastic changes and those that complain that it looks the same as the existing line.
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Darksteel165
Legendary member
It's not labeled as a ram 1500 with a different powertrain option.
It's a brand new vehicle with it's own trims, thus a new vehicle. The f150 lighting is still an f150. Ram Rev is????
popcenator
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The Ram 1500 REV is an electrified 1500...
The concept was a brand new truck, this is clearly just a rehash of the current gen Ram. So if they dropped F-150 from the Lightning, that would make it a brand new truck by your argument despite being the exact same truck overall right? I'm not really sure why you're arguing this, that was never my point. My point was nobody is ever happy with any design.
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smashweights
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I love it. I'll give it a year to work out some early kinks then pick one up
My take is, I prefer this design over the concept, and I’m glad that they went with a conventional design over something more “revolutionary.” At the same time, I can understand why others like the bolder design, even if it is not my taste.
What I find odd, though, is that Ram would show the concept so close to revealing the production model. It seems like disappointment is inevitable this way.
In typical concept cars, the production version comes years after the concept, or the concept name never comes to a production vehicle. So there’s little connection between concept and production, and thus no disappointment. Not so with the Ram Revolution/Rev.
Odd decision if you ask me, but I’m not in the market for an electric truck anyway, so my interest is mostly academic (but I would like to see some features of the concept make it to production, like the bed extender).
What I find odd, though, is that Ram would show the concept so close to revealing the production model. It seems like disappointment is inevitable this way.
In typical concept cars, the production version comes years after the concept, or the concept name never comes to a production vehicle. So there’s little connection between concept and production, and thus no disappointment. Not so with the Ram Revolution/Rev.
Odd decision if you ask me, but I’m not in the market for an electric truck anyway, so my interest is mostly academic (but I would like to see some features of the concept make it to production, like the bed extender).
Nobody is buying EVs for long range driving. Yet the most frequent argument against them is range. Which usually comes from people who have no interest in buying an EV no matter what it's range is
