Then just ditch the stock intake all togetherHeavens no, I'm not worried about fuel mileage most of the time! I want more flow and quicker response.... vapors be damned
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HemiDude
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Agreed. For now I am very satisfied with the RamAir intake my GT has, don't think Ill be changing that in the near future. I am toying with the thought of removing or disabling the AGS though. Seems to contradict the point of having the RamAir...
The grill shutters don't cover the entire grill though, and when they are closed, the engine is sipping air anyways, so not a big deal
HemiDude
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Yeah, I just wonder sometimes if the "benefit" of the AGS is real to a guy like me. The 1 or 2 mpg it might gain, on long road trips, is one thing, but on 75% of my drives fuel efficiency is furthest from my mind. I drive my truck more aggressively than some I suppose, shoulda kept the Challenger
I too drive aggressively.Yeah, I just wonder sometimes if the "benefit" of the AGS is real to a guy like me. The 1 or 2 mpg it might gain, on long road trips, is one thing, but on 75% of my drives fuel efficiency is furthest from my mind. I drive my truck more aggressively than some I suppose, shoulda kept the Challenger
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It wasn’t really hurting anything. But less restriction the better.
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WXman
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What's the deal with that white filter anyway? I had never seen that before until this truck. It says "do not service" but there is no way in hell that it would stay good for the life of the truck, especially on gravel roads where I live. I took it out and threw it away. I don't understand the purpose of a permanent filter on an airbox that already has a great disposable filter.
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It's for emissions, not sure how that works, but from what I understand they are carbon filled, designed to suck up hydrocarbons that enter your intake when shut off. On other vehicles, like Lexus, they are replaceable, on the RAM they are not.
But before you cut the plastic rivets to remove it, probably a good idea to remove the whole box section first, cut the filter out. This way you ensure no foreign material makes it to the engine.
It's a carbon filter for emissions. I highly doubt anyone who removes it gains any performance or MPG. I removed mine before I got the Vararam. You can see light though it's and I was able to blow through it with little restriction.
SD Rebel
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I would be worried about it falling apart and into my engine. I haven't looked at it yet, does it seem to be sturdy? Either way, I plan on removing mine sooner or later.
It's technically a smog item, even living in California, my truck won't need it's first smog test until it's 8 years old and only then it's an OBD connection test, takes about 7 minutes. They don't check factory air boxes either.
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If you still have the stock air filter housing just remove the cover and flip it upside down. It's plastic welded/riveted to the underside of the cover. You can pop it out with a small screwdriver
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I'd imagine it will still pass an emissions test. People remove the entire stock air cleaner housing to install cold air intakes
SD Rebel
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It won't be until 2027 before I have to do my first smog test in California on this truck, but I already know it will pass if I remove it.
The carbon filter is only a passive system, designed to pick-up left over fumes that may get passed from the engine when turned off. It's just a carbon filter, it has zero bearing during actual operations. It won't set off an engine light.
In terms of visual inspection, if California doesn't inspect factory air box elements, I doubt Arizona does. And as Rlaf75 mentioned, plenty of people put whole aftermarket intakes that pass emissions that circumvent the OEM system.
WXman
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I'd also like to know if the carbon filter is really for emissions, why haven't I seen it on GM V8s, Toyota V8s, Ford V8s, etc?
HemiDude
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That's a good question. Piggy-backing on that, has anyone who removed theirs observed any staining on the air filter? I know I didn't on my last Ram. Which now makes me wonder - If Ram thinks that carbon filter is necessary on a regular Ram, why didn't they craft one for the GT's Ram-Air?
Not sure about F-150s but 2022 Mustangs (which fundamentally use one of the engines that F-150s use with different heads/cams/intake) do have a carbon filter added that people remove - they also are rated 10hp lower than previous years with no other changes and people claim removing filter gives them that 10hp back (which I personally doubt but ok). It seems like adding that filter is becoming a common thing.
GT us a lower volume trim level that doesn't hurt the emissions ratings for entire line up
