Start of 2022 Production.

[n00ber]

Is there no info from @triple_B tonight? I know he usually posts the window stickers around 10:45pm.

Its the weekend

*edit I'm dumb and can't/don't read anything past one sentence. Thought this was a build sheet question.

sorry, I should have pointed out early on that no build sheets show up on the weekend, only window stickers so I don’t make posts on Saturday or Sunday mornings and just make evening updates.

I take for granted that everyone on the TRX forums is already aware of this since it has been happening for over a year at this point.

 

[Pi Esq.]

I get your frustration (we ordered around the same time) but we're only what, a month into production? If they don't feed these dealers units to sell then they go out of business and if they go out of business those of us with sold orders don't have a dealer to go take delivery of our trucks from.

I generally agree, but Stellantis should not be telling their dealers that sold orders take priority when it’s clear that’s not the case. Or, if the dealers are just making that **** up to win over customers, maybe they shouldn’t be in business in the first place.

 

[Surfnurse311]

Was able to take delivery today. Thanks @triple_B and @Eighty for all the help with tracking. Hang in there everyone, truck is worth the wait.

What kinda deal were you able to get on it below msrp and where you buy from? I should be getting mine any day and was really hoping to use my affiliate discount as i originally gave my sales guy my control# in May as easy negotiation but now I’m questioning if they will screw me over ( affiliate discount no longer given for the 2022 via fca)and if i should call up the dealer most people on here use mark or whatever as a backup and begin this terrible process over again


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[PCHokie]

What kinda deal were you able to get on it below msrp and where you buy from? I should be getting mine any day and was really hoping to use my affiliate discount as i originally gave my sales guy my control# in May as easy negotiation but now I’m questioning if they will screw me over ( affiliate discount no longer given for the 2022 via fca)and if i should call up the dealer most people on here use mark or whatever as a backup and begin this terrible process over again


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Hopefully your dealership honors the pricing. Fortunately for me, I spoke with mine and they’re honoring pricing on all their orders regardless, even the FFP pricing I signed in July even though MSRP has gone up since we came to an agreement. MSRP has gone from $63,860 to $64,760 from my first POC to most recent POC, but they are still going to sell to me for $58,007 which was FFP when MSRP $63,860. I think they are probably one of the more ethical dealerships out there though. They do not mark up any of their vehicles above MSRP unlike most of the other dealerships here in Austin.

 

[triple_B]

Sorry for the very late reply tonight guys, Took the family and friends to some haunted houses and corn maze. Everyone had a blast!

I always have a laptop with me but this place was in the middle of nowhere and none of my phones or hotspots would get a signal to run the scans, just had to wait till we got home.

2 more members with trucks being released this evening.

VIN	BS	WS	STATE	COLOR
102784 @Mflat86	X	X	Colorado	Granite
112014 @HozayM	X	X	North Carolina	Patriot

 

[triple_B]

I could scan the system for all 2021 build sheets, but it will take a couple days. That’s a lot of possibilities (up to 899,999 VINs, with 223 possible combinations per VIN). Not sure it’s worth that much effort.
@triple_B, as I recall, you had mentioned doing that at one point - did you ever do it?

I only scanned for TRX's for 2021 and that was just over 15000 trucks. Sounds like a fun project for tomorrow though, will report back once I have some results to share.

 

[Gr8dane]

Oh man....im so screwed with the pano AND rambox in my bighorn, and I might not hear about anything until until Nov/Dec and delivery December or even early jan.

Might as well just start to look for GMC Sierra at4 or a Ford f150 fx4 package at this point, in hopes I can score a deal somewhere else. Just absolutely sucks that my mid June order isn't a priority and not in the radar when it might be built with those numbers.

2022 Big Horn Back Country
6/14…order placed
6/24…D status and Vin

2016 Dodge Charger scat pack and my spouse 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara

I hear ya. Im in the same boat. My previous truck to this was an ecoboost and i loved it and the dealer was top notch. Before i ordered this ram i was looking for a King Ranch but was told inventory was low and very slow. So i go order my Ram after my dealership says " we have limited stock but we can order one and its be here in 12-16 weeks Tops. Here we are 22 weeks later and no build date. Ford dealership called me yesterday, and said still looking for a King Ranch because we have a few that just showed up.

 

[dsbull]

A nice clarification from ram/stelantis on how they are currently handling orders would be WONDERFUL.

What is happening that other manufacturers are also catching up, and now the holidays are coming up. Competition will be better.

At this point, even if my dealer comes to me with my custom order, they will need to EARN my business with discounts and incentives, if they want me to stay loyal. I'm going 100% dump that right on my dealer if I don't hear anything next week. Waiting for months on an order with absolutely no real time frame, building queue and not having incentives for orders on newer 2022 trucks is just only going to hurt their position on trucks sold.

Right now, I'm officially going to start my research on other trucks to see what fits best for me, after this mess of an order process.

@RamCares

2022 Big Horn Back Country
6/14…order placed
6/24…D status and Vin

2016 Dodge Charger scat pack and my spouse 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara

I just did that. Said f u c k it. Ordered x4mc. For now. I don’t have a car to drive. This thing went right in to productions with proper tracking.


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[jheard2020]

A nice clarification from ram/stelantis on how they are currently handling orders would be WONDERFUL.

What is happening that other manufacturers are also catching up, and now the holidays are coming up. Competition will be better.

At this point, even if my dealer comes to me with my custom order, they will need to EARN my business with discounts and incentives, if they want me to stay loyal. I'm going 100% dump that right on my dealer if I don't hear anything next week. Waiting for months on an order with absolutely no real time frame, building queue and not having incentives for orders on newer 2022 trucks is just only going to hurt their position on trucks sold.

Right now, I'm officially going to start my research on other trucks to see what fits best for me, after this mess of an order process.

@RamCares

2022 Big Horn Back Country
6/14…order placed
6/24…D status and Vin

2016 Dodge Charger scat pack and my spouse 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara

Unfortunately for you they probably won't care if you walk away. They will sell your truck to someone else for more than you are paying for it.

 

[arod412]

I get your frustration (we ordered around the same time) but we're only what, a month into production? If they don't feed these dealers units to sell then they go out of business and if they go out of business those of us with sold orders don't have a dealer to go take delivery of our trucks from.

The dealer inventory makes sense. I get that. The frustrating part is the lack of information and the priority of order we were promised in the beginning.

Then when you do see the great info that we get from eighty and triple_B. It clearly shows that they are focusing on building higher trim level Trucks, and lower bare bones models for dealers and abandoning pretty much everything else in between.

My apologies to all if I'm taking away any thunder from those that are super excited on getting theirs. It's hard to see the neighbor have a beautiful 2022 ram sitting on the driveway, that was literally picked up last week, while I've been waiting, and will continue to wait. Yes I know I might be over reacting a little, but it has push back on other plans that I wanted to do.

I'm really happy for those who have trucks now, and I'm really looking forward to seeing some more pictures to at least get me buy. But, I can't wait forever, I'm going to need a truck.

2022 Big Horn Back Country
6/14…order placed
6/24…D status and Vin

2016 Dodge Charger scat pack and my spouse 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara

 

[Mjbano]

The dealer inventory makes sense. I get that. The frustrating part is the lack of information and the priority of order we were promised in the beginning.

Then when you do see the great info that we get from eighty and triple_B. It clearly shows that they are focusing on building higher trim level Trucks, and lower bare bones models for dealers and abandoning pretty much everything else in between.

My apologies to all if I'm taking away any thunder from those that are super excited on getting theirs. It's hard to see the neighbor have a beautiful 2022 ram sitting on the driveway, that was literally picked up last week, while I've been waiting, and will continue to wait. Yes I know I might be over reacting a little, but it has push back on other plans that I wanted to do.

I'm really happy for those who have trucks now, and I'm really looking forward to seeing some more pictures to at least get me buy. But, I can't wait forever, I'm going to need a truck.

2022 Big Horn Back Country
6/14…order placed
6/24…D status and Vin

2016 Dodge Charger scat pack and my spouse 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara

You are correct and need not apologize for anything. When a customer spends this kind of coin on a product, chooses one company over another, there should absolutely be communication between the two. The priority statement on paid orders is 100% BS. If I was contacted and explained the particular reason why my build was being side tabled, I would be fine. Yesterday, I contacted ramchat and expressed the same. They replied that my case would be elevated and someone would be in touch in 1-2 days. The rep then abruptly ended the chat session. I couldn't begin to pronounce his/her name. Im aware there are many who ordered before me, however, as you feel, I just want to know WTH is the hold up when later orders are being delivered. I want to know exactly what products are holding it up. Let me make the decision then how to proceed.

 

[New1500customram]

i have seen a few post stating they are building higher trim levels first! is this really true? and where are the facts coming from?

 

[Gr8dane]

Unfortunately for you they probably won't care if you walk away. They will sell your truck to someone else for more than you are paying for it.

I thought about that as well. Except ill tell them i have a guaranteed price so ill sell it for more than i paid and goto a competitor

 

[arod412]

i have seen a few post stating they are building higher trim levels first! is this really true? and where are the facts coming from?

It depends on the options you order. For me, I have a lower trim with lots of options.

2022 Big Horn Back Country
6/14…order placed
6/24…D status and Vin

2016 Dodge Charger scat pack and my spouse 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara

 

[arod412]

I thought about that as well. Except ill tell them i have a guaranteed price so ill sell it for more than i paid and goto a competitor

I could also demand to cancel the order...that would definitely hurt them more. But im not at that stage, just yet.

2022 Big Horn Back Country
6/14…order placed
6/24…D status and Vin

2016 Dodge Charger scat pack and my spouse 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara

 

[Gr8dane]

Unfortunately for you they probably won't care if you walk away. They will sell your truck to someone else for more than you are paying for it.

I thought about that as well. Except ill tell them i have a guaranteed price so ill sell it for more than i paid and goto a competit

 

[deanno33]

The dealer inventory makes sense. I get that. The frustrating part is the lack of information and the priority of order we were promised in the beginning.

Then when you do see the great info that we get from eighty and triple_B. It clearly shows that they are focusing on building higher trim level Trucks, and lower bare bones models for dealers and abandoning pretty much everything else in between.

Exactly. People understand that dealers need inventory. No problem. People also accept that exact VIN order isn't how trucks get built. No problem. However seeing sold orders 50k, 60k and 70k higher than ours....really? Everything needed for my order is going into 170xxx or higher VIN Limited sold orders. Sorry but that makes a customer feel like they're getting a big FU from Ram. Oh...and zero information on why or potential timing.

 

[GeorgiaBoy]

i have seen a few post stating they are building higher trim levels first! is this really true? and where are the facts coming from?

Well they sure aren't in any hurry to build my higher trim level!!

 

[monkeypunch]

i have seen a few post stating they are building higher trim levels first! is this really true? and where are the facts coming from?

No its not. Of the 31000ish trucks built, 12000ish are Big Horns. The tracker has l that info in it.

 

[deanno33]

No its not. Of the 31000ish trucks built, 12000ish are Big Horns. The tracker has l that info in it.

Totally true but I'm thinking most of those are stripped dealer orders. Definitely some sold orders too from the build sheets, but sure seems like most sold order BSs are higher trims. Not saying I'm right, just what it appears.