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I understand your dilemma on what kit to go with. As for me I’m more of a purest and prefer to keep my mods OEM as much as possible using Mopar accessories. As for your 2” vs 4” decision, if you go with the Mopar 2” lift and the ORP coils, that’s 3” right there. If you then run 35s you are gaining probably another 1.5” over a stock tire so that puts you at or over 4” from stock. My North Edition already has the ORP coils and sits a solid 2” lower in front. So with the Mopar kit and my 34” tires, I should gain from a non ORP truck, 4” in front, 2” in the rear and my truck should be real close to level, give me the look I want and void any potential warranty issues down the road.

Yeah I had all the in my mind as well.. With the ORP coils and tires it should give me a total lift of 4” or more. Tire wear will bring that back down over time and coils relaxing over time as well I am sure. But would def put my in the range of the Readylift 3.5SST, but this would be Mopar, keep proper CV angles which I hear are not the best on the Readylift. Plus like you said warranty as well. I am leaning towards the Mopar kit, especially since I found it on eBay $1000 cheaper then my dealer, which would be bunch of money towards tires.

I have seen a few pictures of some trucks with the Mopar/ORP shocks and it looks like a decent height for sure. I can’t remember the members name, but it’s the black truck. it’s looking pretty sweet.

Now with the BDS lift it would be 4” plus the tires which would put me at 5.5 to so. So another 1” or so higher. But is it worth double the cost and potential warranty issues, I am venturing to guess it’s not.

I think I am starting to lean more to the Mopar kit If I can still get it for the $1600cdn price I found on eBay when I am ready to hit the payment button. If I have to go the dealer route, then I will probably end up going BDS for similar cost.
 
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I ordered it from allmoparparts.com which also comes from Fayetteville NY, so I guess mine and yours are coming from the same place. Mine end up $1800 cad. Not sure about HST


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Yes I haven’t ordered yet. The ones on eBay are coming from the exact same Fayetteville, NY like you said. I wonder if the eBay person and allmoparparts.com are the same person or getting from the same source.

Yeah $1600 Canadian all in sounds like a great deal.

Was your $1800 including shipping? When you did the check out did it include taxes? I know the eBay one (I am sure you checked it out, since you know its Fayetteville) includes all this. So my total would be $1600. Depending on installation, I may or may not do it myself. I have tools (air and manual), ramps, knowledge, I can get help if needed and I like messing with this stuff anymore. I may look into doing it myself. I have seen many members go that route.

BUT... If the dealers $600 charge is including alignment then I will be taking to them 100% because alignment usually runs about $100-150 CDN anyhow. I didn’t ask if the install priced included alignment. Also they may charge a different amount because I am not buying the kit from them. I will find out eventually.

I will be going to the dealer this week to check out the managers truck, he just put the lift on.
 

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Yes I haven’t ordered yet. The ones on eBay are coming from the exact same Fayetteville, NY like you said. I wonder if the eBay person and allmoparparts.com are the same person or getting from the same source.

Yeah $1600 Canadian all in sounds like a great deal.

Was your $1800 including shipping? When you did the check out did it include taxes? I know the eBay one (I am sure you checked it out, since you know its Fayetteville) includes all this. So my total would be $1600. Depending on installation, I may or may not do it myself. I have tools (air and manual), ramps, knowledge, I can get help if needed and I like messing with this stuff anymore. I may look into doing it myself. I have seen many members go that route.

BUT... If the dealers $600 charge is including alignment then I will be taking to them 100% because alignment usually runs about $100-150 CDN anyhow. I didn’t ask if the install priced included alignment. Also they may charge a different amount because I am not buying the kit from them. I will find out eventually.

I will be going to the dealer this week to check out the managers truck, he just put the lift on.

Yes my $1800 was with shipping included. But there was nothing on HST, hopefully they won’t charge me that when the thing arrive.
My mechanic told me $400 for install. But no alignment included.
Dealer told me $1200 for install I believe with alignment. I have no option to do it on my own. Are you in Ontario?


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Yes my $1800 was with shipping included. But there was nothing on HST, hopefully they won’t charge me that when the thing arrive.
My mechanic told me $400 for install. But no alignment included.
Dealer told me $1200 for install I believe with alignment. I have no option to do it on my own. Are you in Ontario?


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I haven’t shopped around for install prices. Figured my dealer quoted me $600 that I wouldn’t need to shop around. $400 isn’t bad for an install. My parts guy told me $600 for install, I haven’t actually talked to the service department. so that $600 may vary.

You will probably have to pay HST once they cross the border. You shouldn’t have to pay duties because they are made in the USA (NAFTA rules). I did go a “check out” on the site you used and did the estimated shipping and taxes it says $157 for ground via FedEx. So maybe that price in includes the taxes. Fingers

Yes I am in Ontario, Durham Region Area.
 

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I haven’t shopped around for install prices. Figured my dealer quoted me $600 that I wouldn’t need to shop around. $400 isn’t bad for an install. My parts guy told me $600 for install, I haven’t actually talked to the service department. so that $600 may vary.

You will probably have to pay HST once they cross the border. You shouldn’t have to pay duties because they are made in the USA (NAFTA rules). I did go a “check out” on the site you used and did the estimated shipping and taxes it says $157 for ground via FedEx. So maybe that price in includes the taxes. Fingers

Yes I am in Ontario, Durham Region Area.

Yes I remember now, it was like around $160, shipping and taxes, so hopefully there is no more charges. The weird part is I ordered it like 2 weeks ago, but still didn’t get the tracking #, so I am just little worry now. Hopefully it’s just delayed because of situation we currently are.
I am in Mississauga, so not that far.
What tires you putting on ?


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Yes I remember now, it was like around $160, shipping and taxes, so hopefully there is no more charges. The weird part is I ordered it like 2 weeks ago, but still didn’t get the tracking #, so I am just little worry now. Hopefully it’s just delayed because of situation we currently are.
I am in Mississauga, so not that far.
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I’m not sure what I am going to go with...

I do like the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac or BFGoodrich KO2.. I have had the Duratrac‘s before on my Silverado and I found they were great on the highway and wore good lasted a long time. I do all highway Durham to Toronto everyday.

On my Ram 2500, I had 38”x13.5 Toyo Open Country M/T and I really like those tires. They were not very loud on the highway, when I got rid of the truck I had put 60,000+km on them and still had lot of meat on them. But they are expensive.....
 

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I’m not sure what I am going to go with...

I do like the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac or BFGoodrich KO2.. I have had the Duratrac‘s before on my Silverado and I found they were great on the highway and wore good lasted a long time. I do all highway Durham to Toronto everyday.

On my Ram 2500, I had 38”x13.5 Toyo Open Country M/T and I really like those tires. They were not very loud on the highway, when I got rid of the truck I had put 60,000+km on them and still had lot of meat on them. But they are expensive.....

My problem is I have 22” rims, and I really like them so I will keep them. As of right now my choice is Nitto Ridge Grappler, but they are very expensive, and hard to get.


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My problem is I have 22” rims, and I really like them so I will keep them. As of right now my choice is Nitto Ridge Grappler, but they are very expensive, and hard to get.


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Honestly, I was going to trade my rims for the 22” (had a guy who as willing to trade but went a different route), and I was on the fence with the 22’s anyhow. A) beause I wasn’t sure if I liked the design 100%, it was more that I wanted bigger rims. Then I started thinking how many easier it is to get curb rash on 22’s over the 20’s.

I also really lIke the design of my 20’s, the only thing I want to do is get them powder coated satin black which I have finally found a powder coater that can do everything at one shop (remove tires, powder coat, store truck while it’s being done and reinstall/balance tires) all for the price of $450 with 1 year warranty.

The Duratracs come with 35x12.5x20 that are a F load rating. They are 68lbs/tire so about 24lbs heavier than the stock Dueller H/T at 44lbs/tire. Not sure how this will affect power on my 3.21 gears, but I don’t think it will be bad. Still an extra 96lbs total.

I think I am more leaning for the Duratrac‘s as they do get good reviews and look great. Plus I had them before and they worked well. I will keep my 20” factory rims as I do like the design and don’t want spend $1500-2500 on aftermarket rims. 8655B02B-0933-4643-AC3C-E10A9C604BEA.jpeg
 

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Honestly, I was going to trade my rims for the 22” (had a guy who as willing to trade but went a different route), and I was on the fence with the 22’s anyhow. A) beause I wasn’t sure if I liked the design 100%, it was more that I wanted bigger rims. Then I started thinking how many easier it is to get curb rash on 22’s over the 20’s.

I also really lIke the design of my 20’s, the only thing I want to do is get them powder coated satin black which I have finally found a powder coater that can do everything at one shop (remove tires, powder coat, store truck while it’s being done and reinstall/balance tires) all for the price of $450 with 1 year warranty.

The Duratracs come with 35x12.5x20 that are a F load rating. They are 68lbs/tire so about 24lbs heavier than the stock Dueller H/T at 44lbs/tire. Not sure how this will affect power on my 3.21 gears, but I don’t think it will be bad. Still an extra 96lbs total.

I think I am more leaning for the Duratrac‘s as they do get good reviews and look great. Plus I had them before and they worked well. I will keep my 20” factory rims as I do like the design and don’t want spend $1500-2500 on aftermarket rims. View attachment 58610

Nice looking truck. I was looking to get the 20” aftermarket rims, but same as you didn’t want to spend more less $2000, plus a probably another $2000 on set of tires. And going through headache of selling my current rims. The only advantage would be more tires options with 20”. Since I like my rims, just gonna have to spend ~$2000 on Nittos. I do have 3.92 gear so I hope it will be ok with LT E rated tires. They are at 63 lb , so only 80 lb more in total than my stock Goodyear’s.
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Nice looking truck. I was looking to get the 20” aftermarket rims, but same as you didn’t want to spend more less $2000, plus a probably another $2000 on set of tires. And going through headache of selling my current rims. The only advantage would be more tires options with 20”. Since I like my rims, just gonna have to spend ~$2000 on Nittos. I do have 3.92 gear so I hope it will be ok with LT E rated tires. They are at 63 lb , so only 80 lb more in total than my stock Goodyear’s.
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Thank you very much, it was between the truck I ended up with or a Red Rebel with Red Interior which I was really debating on going with. Ultimately I wanted the pano-sunroof and heated/cooled leather seats and I loved the colour (almost went with the tri-colour white) Both had the 12” screen. I figured if I want to go higher like the Rebel I can do it at a later date. And here we are lol...

Your it looking pretty nice. Looks like you have the power steps that’s a nice addition.

Well I got good news from the eBay seller... They are a legitimate FCA dealership which is even better. Now all I need to do is sell of B2 Maganaflow Muffler, Resonator Deletes and Tips and I will place my order ASAP.

I think this is the best route to take to maintain warranty and I figure overall height will be 4-4.5” with tires will be fine with me.
 

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Thank you very much, it was between the truck I ended up with or a Red Rebel with Red Interior which I was really debating on going with. Ultimately I wanted the pano-sunroof and heated/cooled leather seats and I loved the colour (almost went with the tri-colour white) Both had the 12” screen. I figured if I want to go higher like the Rebel I can do it at a later date. And here we are lol...

Your it looking pretty nice. Looks like you have the power steps that’s a nice addition.

Well I got good news from the eBay seller... They are a legitimate FCA dealership which is even better. Now all I need to do is sell of B2 Maganaflow Muffler, Resonator Deletes and Tips and I will place my order ASAP.

I think this is the best route to take to maintain warranty and I figure overall height will be 4-4.5” with tires will be fine with me.

Thank you, love this truck. Yes I do have the power steps. This is the colour I wanted, and I wanted a 6’4” bed, which was very hard to find. I don’t have 12” screen and sunroof, but it wasn’t a deal breaker. I do have the vented seats, which is very nice feature specially right now.
I am going for the same look as you, since the Mopar lift will give me 2” and the tires are almost 35”so I will end up with 4-4.5” lift after all. Good luck with selling your stuff.


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I just ordered my Mopar 2” kit and I have the same question on whether the second spacer is needed on the new AB kits?
I'm confused as to why anyone would be getting a second spacer with the updated AB kit. The point of the updated kit was to eliminate the need for a second spacer.
 

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Hey guys, I have a post somewhere else debating kits. $1900 2” Mopar with ORP springs (roughly don’t know dealer price on ORP springs) or $3300-$3700 for BDS lift (discounted right now) ... Both are without install / parts only and Canadian prices.


Do any of you regret doing the Mopar 2” Lift with ORP springs over, and wish you had gone with a 4” or even 6” kit? I only want height for looks, because who doesn’t like a lifted truck!! I am just in a debate between the Mopar 2“ or spending a lot more money and getting a 4” BDS lift.

Any regrets? Is it high enough or would you go higher to 4”?

I only want 35’s and I don’t mud or tow. I just figure Mopar money wise is easier. I save $1400 to $1800 going Mopar which would go towards upgrading my tires quicker then if I go with the BDS. May have to stick with stock tires for a while until I get tires.

Going to hit the dealer this week, Manager just lifted his truck apparently with the Mopar kits (ORP or not I don’t know) so I will get a first hand look for myself which would help greatly.
When you install the mopar 2" with orp springs you end up netting about 3.5 "of lift, something to keep in mind. For me it was the perfect amount of lift bc my wife is only 5'2" so a 6" lift was out of the question. It's all about what you prefer, it's your truck and you have to drive it everyday.
 
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Thank you, love this truck. Yes I do have the power steps. This is the colour I wanted, and I wanted a 6’4” bed, which was very hard to find. I don’t have 12” screen and sunroof, but it wasn’t a deal breaker. I do have the vented seats, which is very nice feature specially right now.
I am going for the same look as you, since the Mopar lift will give me 2” and the tires are almost 35”so I will end up with 4-4.5” lift after all. Good luck with selling your stuff.

Yeah the sunroof was something I really wanted, I have had sunroofs in most of my vehicles and this would be the second vehicle I have had that has had some type of PANO sunroof. I had an Enclave with a sunroof over the front driver/pass seats and the back seats to the trunk area was mostly all glass roof. Really makes a difference with lighting inside the car, especially in winter when it gets darker faster.

I noticed you don't have an exhaust system, if you are looking I mine will be going up for sale once the Borla is done. Everything is approved, I just need to arrange which shop is doing the work and off it goes to the shop for the Borla system. I'll probably sell it as a complete unit with all the factory piping as well since I will not need it anymore. I am going to ask for it all back so it will be like a hybrid cat back system between B2 stuff and factory piping. Your close enough so shipping wouldn't need to be done, I work in Toronto as well so even closer.


When you install the mopar 2" with orp springs you end up netting about 3.5 "of lift, something to keep in mind. For me it was the perfect amount of lift bc my wife is only 5'2" so a 6" lift was out of the question. It's all about what you prefer, it's your truck and you have to drive it everyday.

Yes that was in the back of my head, that is partly was persuaded we away from the Readylift kit. For the price I can get the Mopar lift & ORP springs for delivered from the US, I am paying about $700cad more BUT the CV angles will be proper and the warranty should still be intact. I was discussing with the eBay FCA dealer that I am going to get the kit from if I am going to have a problem with FCA when it comes to warranty should something happen. Parts purchased from a US FCA dealer and being installed by me or a FCA Canada Dealer. 2 different entities from the same company, just different countries. He said they have had Canadian vehicles at the shop before and it takes forever to get reimbursed the money from FCA Canada. Says FCA only really will do Recall work, warranty work is a PITA he says when it comes to vehicles from different country. Either way I'll take my chances saving $1000 that nothing will happen. If I buy from eBay I will be getting an official invoice form the FCA dealer, so it will be logged that these are legit parts from a legit FCA dealer.

I had thought about you when I was talking about the lift in one of the post I have had over the last few days. One of your post talked about the UCA being on the edge your comfort zone, when towing your boat. And I have ready many post about this. Where people are saying since the UCA is meant for the 2" kit, you are only going 1" beyond what the kit was intended for. So, are all the angles within acceptable range from a daily highway driver stand point and possibly a warranty stand point? UCA, CV, Ball joints all these moving parts, are the angles acceptable?

I've seen members comment that the kit doesn't say that it can't be used on vehicles with the ORP package already installed. So would it be fair to say that MOPAR is ok with the extra 1" when being installed on an ORP equipped truck?

So the Mopar 2" kit with the ORP will put you at 3.5" all around (more at the back if you got the ORP rear springs too I would assume, but then you end up with a rake again right?). My stock tires (Dueller H/T) are 31.9" in overall diameter, the Wrangler Duratrac 35" are 34.8" overall diameter so there is a 2.9" difference in tire size. So I suppose that means the Duratracs will add roughly 1.5" in height to the truck, am I thinking about this correctly?

So assuming all above is correct in my thinking. Does that mean I will have an overall height of 5" in lift? If this is true, are the CVs, UCAs, Ball-joints still going to be ok with that much life. I would think the extra 1.5" from the tires wouldn't affect the angles of the suspension like the acutal lift would.

1 more thing. I have read a few comments regarding stock rims (19mm offset I think) and 12.5 wide tires. I am not going to upgrade my rims as I like the factory rims, just about to have them powder coated satin black (same rims you have in your pictures on post #728). I see you have 35x11.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers, do you think I will have a problem with the 35x12.5 Duratracs rubbing (again no off-roading, mostly pavement) they don't offer a smaller width in 35" tire for a 20" rim. If they do rub I guess I have 2 options, pick different tires or get 1.5 spacers and push my wheels out. Any suggestions?
 

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Yeah the sunroof was something I really wanted, I have had sunroofs in most of my vehicles and this would be the second vehicle I have had that has had some type of PANO sunroof. I had an Enclave with a sunroof over the front driver/pass seats and the back seats to the trunk area was mostly all glass roof. Really makes a difference with lighting inside the car, especially in winter when it gets darker faster.

I noticed you don't have an exhaust system, if you are looking I mine will be going up for sale once the Borla is done. Everything is approved, I just need to arrange which shop is doing the work and off it goes to the shop for the Borla system. I'll probably sell it as a complete unit with all the factory piping as well since I will not need it anymore. I am going to ask for it all back so it will be like a hybrid cat back system between B2 stuff and factory piping. Your close enough so shipping wouldn't need to be done, I work in Toronto as well so even closer.




Yes that was in the back of my head, that is partly was persuaded we away from the Readylift kit. For the price I can get the Mopar lift & ORP springs for delivered from the US, I am paying about $700cad more BUT the CV angles will be proper and the warranty should still be intact. I was discussing with the eBay FCA dealer that I am going to get the kit from if I am going to have a problem with FCA when it comes to warranty should something happen. Parts purchased from a US FCA dealer and being installed by me or a FCA Canada Dealer. 2 different entities from the same company, just different countries. He said they have had Canadian vehicles at the shop before and it takes forever to get reimbursed the money from FCA Canada. Says FCA only really will do Recall work, warranty work is a PITA he says when it comes to vehicles from different country. Either way I'll take my chances saving $1000 that nothing will happen. If I buy from eBay I will be getting an official invoice form the FCA dealer, so it will be logged that these are legit parts from a legit FCA dealer.

I had thought about you when I was talking about the lift in one of the post I have had over the last few days. One of your post talked about the UCA being on the edge your comfort zone, when towing your boat. And I have ready many post about this. Where people are saying since the UCA is meant for the 2" kit, you are only going 1" beyond what the kit was intended for. So, are all the angles within acceptable range from a daily highway driver stand point and possibly a warranty stand point? UCA, CV, Ball joints all these moving parts, are the angles acceptable?

I've seen members comment that the kit doesn't say that it can't be used on vehicles with the ORP package already installed. So would it be fair to say that MOPAR is ok with the extra 1" when being installed on an ORP equipped truck?

So the Mopar 2" kit with the ORP will put you at 3.5" all around (more at the back if you got the ORP rear springs too I would assume, but then you end up with a rake again right?). My stock tires (Dueller H/T) are 31.9" in overall diameter, the Wrangler Duratrac 35" are 34.8" overall diameter so there is a 2.9" difference in tire size. So I suppose that means the Duratracs will add roughly 1.5" in height to the truck, am I thinking about this correctly?

So assuming all above is correct in my thinking. Does that mean I will have an overall height of 5" in lift? If this is true, are the CVs, UCAs, Ball-joints still going to be ok with that much life. I would think the extra 1.5" from the tires wouldn't affect the angles of the suspension like the acutal lift would.

1 more thing. I have read a few comments regarding stock rims (19mm offset I think) and 12.5 wide tires. I am not going to upgrade my rims as I like the factory rims, just about to have them powder coated satin black (same rims you have in your pictures on post #728). I see you have 35x11.5 Nitto Ridge Grapplers, do you think I will have a problem with the 35x12.5 Duratracs rubbing (again no off-roading, mostly pavement) they don't offer a smaller width in 35" tire for a 20" rim. If they do rub I guess I have 2 options, pick different tires or get 1.5 spacers and push my wheels out. Any suggestions?
I will answer your questions based purely off of my experience with the mopar lift install and orp springs in front, I am by no means the expert.
The UCAs that come with the Mopar lift will be fine for daily driving even with the ORP springs. I would not recommend extreme off-roading or towing on a regular basis with them because I think they would wear out the ball joint sooner than later. I have had no negative effects at all with my CV angle even in 4x4 at higher speeds.
If you do the ORP springs front only then you will net roughly 3.5" up front and 2" in the back with just the standard springs in rear. If you add the ORP springs all the way around then yes you are correct you will gain a total 3.5" up front and 3" in the back maintaining close to factory rack.
As far as tires, I went with the 11.5 wide because I kept my factory wheels and I knew I was adding 1.25" wheel spacers and a 12.5 tire would rub for sure with the wheel spacers. I CAN'T tell you for sure that a 12.5 wide tire on stock 20s would rub on the UCA knuckle but I CAN tell you that my 11.5 wide tire on stock 20 (19mm offset) was about .25" inch from my Mopar UCA knuckle prior to installing the wheels spacers. With my current setup I have no rub at all. If you plan on doing 1.5" wheels spacers I'm about 99% sure a 12.5 wide tire will rub on the fender lining somewhere with stock rim. Hope this info helps!
 
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I know it’s in here somewhere but can someone point me in The direction of a part number for just the mopar lift kit control arms, not the full kit? I would greatly appreciate it!
 

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I know it’s in here somewhere but can someone point me in The direction of a part number for just the mopar lift kit control arms, not the full kit? I would greatly appreciate it!
I have a set, one has a torn boot (you can replace with boot from oem UCA) and they have a few marks from removal, only have about 1k miles on them before I upgraded to RC UCAs. You can have them at shipping cost if your interested, I live in PA.
 

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I have a set, one has a torn boot (you can replace with boot from oem UCA) and they have a few marks from removal, only have about 1k miles on them before I upgraded to RC UCAs. You can have them at shipping cost if your interested, I live in PA.
I appreciate that very generous offer but I already ordered another mopar UCA for the 2” lift. Fortunately it was only $60 shipped. Hopefully this one holds up. If not then I’ll also have to bite the bullet and go for the $350 rough country forged ones.
 

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FYI anyone running the mopar 2” lift and orp front springs you will likely eventually have issues with the ball joints on the mopar uca’s. I take my truck off road fairly often and my ball joint gave out after 6 months. I almost regret spending the extra money on the “high quality” mopar kit now, even though it did ride very nice when it was in good shape.
 

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