WD affect on maximum tongue weight?

[Rjhagner]

Hi,
If I understand correctly the class IV hitch on my Longhorn is rated for 1,000lb. I read somewhere that a good WD hitch can increase that.
Is that true?

Thanks!

 

[NordicNevs]

Hi,
If I understand correctly the class IV hitch on my Longhorn is rated for 1,000lb. I read somewhere that a good WD hitch can increase that.
Is that true?

Thanks!

False

The weakest link is still your receiver which is rated at 1000

Add on a good WDH probably weighs 50lbs so now you have 950# to work with technically


But your limiting factor beyond your hitch and your receiver is your Payload.

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[Zeronet]

False

The weakest link is still your receiver which is rated at 1000

Add on a good WDH probably weighs 50lbs so now you have 950# to work with technically


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I would think that the class IV receiver would be rated higher for the 2019. The maximum tow rating is 12750 and there are plenty of 3.92 equipped 19s running around with more than 11000 tow rating. It would seem that the receiver would need to be rated for at least 10% of the 12750 tow rating (1275lbs). I recall someone on the forum posting the capacity some time ago. If memory serves I thought it was in the 1300-1400 range but not sure.

 

[devildodge]

I have the weights all listed in my thread about will a 1500 work or am I staying with a 2500.

I believe the class IV hitch is rated 1400 lbs with WDH. But, I do not believe the truck is.

Remember, your weight distribution hitch will also have a limit. Most are 1000 lb tongue and 10000lb trailer. Also, your ball must be atleast the same capacity.

For instance, I just bought a drop hitch for my HD. The hitch is rated 1300 lb tongue and 13000 lb trailer. I got a 2-5/16 hitch ball rated at 14000 lb. The hitch ball is really important to pay attention to as they range from 5000 to say 15000, but they all look just about the same.

If I get a chance I will get you more accurate numbers...or take a look through our towing section...they are in there.

And remember, 1000 lb tongue weight doesn't leave much for payload...so going bigger probably isn't a good idea.

 

[devildodge]

Class IV

1. Class IV hitches are weight carrying (WC) and weight distributing (WD) hitches depending on the vehicle and hitch specifications.
2. Not all Class IV hitches are rated to be both. See the specific hitch for that information.
3. Class IV hitches used as weight carrying are rated up to 10,000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 1000 lbs.
4. Class IV hitches used for weight distributing are rated up to 14,000 lbs. gross trailer weight (GTW) with a maximum trailer tongue weight (TW) of 1400 lbs.
5. A Class IV hitch usually has a 2" square receiver opening.
6. A higher class drawbar does not increase the towing capacity of the hitch. To use this class of hitch for weight distribution requires a weight distribution system.
7. Class IV hitches attach to the vehicle frame only.

The actual RAM weights are different...will get them soon if you don't find them.

Towing: Will the 1500 meet my needs or am I waiting for the 2500.

Well, as noted in many of my posts I am completly smitten by the new Ram 1500 and especially the Rebel. Unfortunately for the 1500 I do alot of heavy hauling and towing. But after seeing @Ksilva211 tow with his, I became more impressed. Well, here in the wonderful state of Pennsylvania we...

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[Zeronet]

According to this chart the 2019 class IV receiver has a rating of 1100 for conventional towing. Still looking for the Weight Distribution rating.

 

[devildodge]

I may be wrong...but I think what that says is maximum tongue weight is 1100lbs a WDH is recommended for trailers over 5000 lbs...so that 1100 lbs is also the WDH limit as well.

At least that is how I interpreted the 2500 towing chart when I got mine...the 2500 is rated for 1800 lbs maximum tongue weight.

So, my opinion, mystery solved...1100 pounds is maximum tongue weight, conventional or Weight distribution. Use WDH with a trailer over 5k

 

[Zeronet]

I may be wrong...but I think what that says is maximum tongue weight is 1100lbs a WDH is recommended for trailers over 5000 lbs...so that 1100 lbs is also the WDH limit as well.

At least that is how I interpreted the 2500 towing chart when I got mine...the 2500 is rated for 1800 lbs maximum tongue weight.

So, my opinion, mystery solved...1100 pounds is maximum tongue weight, conventional or Weight distribution. Use WDH with a trailer over 5k

Found this on the ramtrucks website. Makes more sense.

 

[devildodge]

Has anyone purchased the Dana Super 60 for the max towing package.

Curious if anyone has got the Dana Super 60 axle. We are having a debate about maximum tongue weight and I can not find anything about how they got their tongue weight right with a maximum load trailer. The towing chart says 1100 is the maximum tongue weight and the hitch itself is rated to...

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Okay, so towchart says 1100 and thehitch is rated to 1275.

Either number makes it very hard to get to the max trailer weights.

So I started a conversation about the Dana SUPER 60 axle.

Something isnt jiving.

The HD has a max TW of 1800...but none of the hitch pull numbers can get that close, and the Max Numbers on a HD specifically state...with a gooseneck hitch.

And my 99 which has a max trailer weight of 17000...it specifically says anything over 10000lbs must be on a 5th wheel hitch.

 

[devildodge]

For instance, my drop hitch I just bought.

I have a 14000lb Ball and the hitch is rated 1300lb TW/13000lb trailer. My reciever is rated at 1800lb TW/17000 lb trailer

So my capacity is 13000 lbs.

And with this guide

https://www.ramtrucks.com/BodyBuilder/service/ViewSpecification?specificationId=390

It says,

Class IV

• 5000-pound non- weight distributing​
• 12,900-pound maximum weight distributing​
• 1290 lbs. tongue weight​
• Largest travel trailers made for recreation​
• Weight-distributing hitch is required; as indicated by each weight classification​

So, guess that answers my question to myself

 

[Ramit392]

Class IV hitch 2019 Ram 1500 is 1275 Lbs tongue weight in owners manual on page 409.
(Max Trailer weight 12750 this varies depending on trims for tow caps. up to the max of 12750 for the 1500 Trucks.