Want to be a Rebel owner!

[ThorJeep]

Greetings,

I am a off-road enthusiast: '85 Jeep CJ7 (28yr ownership, been through the Rubicon) , 2010 FJ Cruiser (13yr ownership)
Looking at FS trucks to tow my trailer and jeep (separately).
Test drove a Rebel and fell in love with it, much better than a '99 Ram 1500 I had years ago

So, far what I am looking for, but I fear it is a unicorn, Dodge may have not made these readily available:
5.7L
Tow Package
Air Suspension
Sunroof (First one I really liked)
33Gal Tank

What are your thoughts? It seems Air Suspension and Sunroof are pretty rare, with a tow package, it is a trifecta.
What would you go without? Any personal experience with problems of any of these options?

Thank You, and hope to join you soon.

Scott

 

[Eighty]

Greetings,

I am a off-road enthusiast: '85 Jeep CJ7 (28yr ownership, been through the Rubicon) , 2010 FJ Cruiser (13yr ownership)
Looking at FS trucks to tow my trailer and jeep (separately).
Test drove a Rebel and fell in love with it, much better than a '99 Ram 1500 I had years ago

So, far what I am looking for, but I fear it is a unicorn, Dodge may have not made these readily available:
5.7L
Tow Package
Air Suspension
Sunroof (First one I really liked)
33Gal Tank

What are your thoughts? It seems Air Suspension and Sunroof are pretty rare, with a tow package, it is a trifecta.
What would you go without? Any personal experience with problems of any of these options?

Thank You, and hope to join you soon.

Scott

Are you looking to order one, or buy off the lot? If buying off the lot, are you wanting a 2023 or a 2024?

 

[ThorJeep]

Are you looking to order one, or buy off the lot? If buying off the lot, are you wanting a 2023 or a 2024?

I don't think there is remarkable difference between 23 and 24. My preference is lightly used, off the lot, order 2023 if still possible.

 

[Eighty]

I don't think there is remarkable difference between 23 and 24. My preference is lightly used, off the lot, order 2023 if still possible.

Can't order a 2023, that window closed several weeks ago. If you want to take one off the lot, it'll be hit and miss. Or you could order a 2024 with exactly what you want. There have been several of them made already for 2024 (that include all the things you listed above).

 

[ThorJeep]

Can't order a 2023, that window closed several weeks ago. If you want to take one off the lot, it'll be hit and miss. Or you could order a 2024 with exactly what you want. There have been several of them made already for 2024 (that include all the things you listed above).

I guess you work for Dodge or something similar?

 

[Eighty]

I guess you work for Dodge or something similar?

Nope. I just follow production closely. Very closely.

 

[H2OMAN]

All of what you aked for is pretty standard on rebels. You just need to look around to get the one you want.

 

[spyder]

Can you get the 33 gallon tank with the little short Rebel bed? I remember reading somewhere here that the bigger fuel tank was only going to be available for orders, not for trucks going to dealers that don't have a deposit down on them yet. But I could remember that wrong.

 

[Davidbt]

Can you get the 33 gallon tank with the little short Rebel bed? I remember reading somewhere here that the bigger fuel tank was only going to be available for orders, not for trucks going to dealers that don't have a deposit down on them yet. But I could remember that wrong.

The way Ram is going these days, that sounds about right

 

[mynameisante]

I was about to order a new Ram with those options, and I luckily found a used one for half the price after one last look at used trucks before stepping into the dealer. It took me seven months of searching to find it

Used ones are out there, just gotta input those parameters

 

[Eighty]

Can you get the 33 gallon tank with the little short Rebel bed? I remember reading somewhere here that the bigger fuel tank was only going to be available for orders, not for trucks going to dealers that don't have a deposit down on them yet. But I could remember that wrong.

Of course you can get a 33 gallon tank with the "little Rebel bed". It's no different from any of the other trims (Laramie, Limited, Bighorn, etc.) that have 5'-7" beds.

 

[LaxDfns15]

If you're looking for a Rebel with those options to tow, I'd reconsider some of them. I have basically what you want, but with coil suspension and the 26 gallon tank. My payload sticker is 1500 pounds if I remember right. Both of those options will lower your payload more, then you add in everything else. Your effective payload will probably be around 1000-1100 pounds (with you in the truck) if you're looking for all those options for a tow vehicle. Wanted to get this in before the rest say "Oh but it'll still handle it." Yeah, yeah... we know it can, but it's not legal.

When I got mine I was looking at Rebels for a year. I didn't want to wait that long, but I didn't want to order, waited for deals, wasn't in a hurry, etc. Couldn't find one with sunroof, coil suspension, and 33 gallon tank so I went with the 26. Average 16-17 mpg mixed driving with no towing.

 

[JoyBoy]

Get a dually and a flat bed. Do the ole switcharoo. Sell the trailer, strap the Jeep to the flat bed.

I’m sorry I have nothing useful to say.

 

[Eighty]

Your effective payload will probably be around 1000-1100 pounds (with you in the truck) if you're looking for all those options for a tow vehicle.

Payload capacities don't include the driver. So the available capacity after accounting for the driver could be less than 1,000 lbs. The '22 Rebel I ordered (and didn't take) was rated for 1,178 lbs.

 

[spyder]

Of course you can get a 33 gallon tank with the "little Rebel bed". It's no different from any of the other trims (Laramie, Limited, Bighorn, etc.) that have 5'-7" beds.

None of the configurations I was trying to order over the summer were available with the 33 gallon tank in a 2023 model, although in the 2022's and earlier they were.

 

[LaxDfns15]

Payload capacities don't include the driver. So the available capacity after accounting for the driver could be less than 1,000 lbs. The '22 Rebel I ordered (and didn't take) was rated for 1,178 lbs.

Yeah that's what I was saying. If he gets those extra options and his payload is in the 1350 range, depending on what he puts in the truck along with himself it'll be in the 1000 +/- range. I am fortunately not a big guy at 175 pounds, but I also carry a lot of other stuff in my truck daily as well as added wheels/air bags/other stuff. I'm probably close to 1000 pounds of payload when I'm in the truck after starting at 1500.

Just something to keep in mind if this will be your tow vehicle.

 

[Eighty]

None of the configurations I was trying to order over the summer were available with the 33 gallon tank in a 2023 model, although in the 2022's and earlier they were.

Could have been a temp restriction. There are over 1000 Rebels (2024 model) so far that have the 33 gallon tank. Here's an example.

https://www.ramtrucks.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=1C6SRFLT0RN151774

 

[CalvinC]

RE: Payload it all depends on what you want out of a truck.
If you are buying a truck for the sole, or even main, purpose of towing 5k+, a Rebel, nor probably any loaded out Ram 1500, will not be ideal.

This is not a pulling issue, its a suspension issue, and mostly just an on-paper one at that.

But with that limited capacity comes a lot of benefits to ride and daily livability.

So if you are going to daily this thing and not be a frequent tower, the aforementioned issues are probably livable, and IMO worth it - I will not again daily a Half Ton other than a Ram.

Finally, if you are going to avidly off road this Rebel... IDK about the air suspension.

First debatable consideration is how robust that system is for off-road use. To be fair, you never really hear of issues from off roading these air systems. But in principle it gives me pause.

But second and more straight forward, if you plan to do any off-roady mods to the suspension, your aftermarket options are extremely limited, and mostly cosmetic.

 

[ThorJeep]

If you're looking for a Rebel with those options to tow, I'd reconsider some of them. I have basically what you want, but with coil suspension and the 26 gallon tank. My payload sticker is 1500 pounds if I remember right. Both of those options will lower your payload more, then you add in everything else. Your effective payload will probably be around 1000-1100 pounds (with you in the truck) if you're looking for all those options for a tow vehicle. Wanted to get this in before the rest say "Oh but it'll still handle it." Yeah, yeah... we know it can, but it's not legal.

When I got mine I was looking at Rebels for a year. I didn't want to wait that long, but I didn't want to order, waited for deals, wasn't in a hurry, etc. Couldn't find one with sunroof, coil suspension, and 33 gallon tank so I went with the 26. Average 16-17 mpg mixed driving with no towing.

I will be towing ~4k max, and that is the Jeep which will have no tongue weight. I won't be carrying 1k loads in the bed, if I want that I am renting a trailer and not going to be draggin a$$

Thanks for all the responses, gives me hope. I don't want a new one. I just test drove a '23 with air suspension (Yes, I want) and HUD. Hud is neat and I wouldn't kick it out of the cab, though I know it is going to be a '23+ year.

 

[LaxDfns15]

I will be towing ~4k max, and that is the Jeep which will have no tongue weight. I won't be carrying 1k loads in the bed, if I want that I am renting a trailer and not going to be draggin a$$

Thanks for all the responses, gives me hope. I don't want a new one. I just test drove a '23 with air suspension (Yes, I want) and HUD. Hud is neat and I wouldn't kick it out of the cab, though I know it is going to be a '23+ year.

You just mentioned towing so I wanted to make sure you had that in mind. Sounds like you know what you're doing. A lot of guys think their fully loaded 1500's can tow/haul 2500-3500 loads.