So far disappointed with 5.7 etorque mileage, but how much does it really cost???

[Trouble1233]

I got the etorque and 392 gears around town I get 19.2 21.6 on the highway..mine started changing the more miles I get on it


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[Willwork4truck]

I could have used some etorque in the stop and go on I~40 this afternoon... i didnt even want to look at the lie o meter...

 

[StuartV]

I got the etorque and 392 gears around town I get 19.2 21.6 on the highway..mine started changing the more miles I get on it

You must have very few miles, or be basing your statement on the lie-o-meter, or both. Or do you have the V6 with eTorque?

I have the Hemi w/eTorque, 4WD, and 3.92 gearing.

I have been tracking my mileage with Fuelly since I got the truck. So, about 7000 miles now, all hand calculated.

My mileage over the whole time is 14.5 MPG. Over the last 10 fill-ups, the average is 15.3.

Sometimes, the lie-o-meter is right on with the hand calculated. But, just for example, my last fill-up was 31.3 gallons. The lie-o-meter said I had gotten 17.2 MPG on that tank. The hand calculation came out to 15.1. Seeing as how the hand calculation is a much closer match to the lifetime stats, I'm inclined to believe it. The lie-o-meter is just random. I record every fill-up in Fuelly and I add a note to every fill-up with what the Lie-o-meter said for that tank (just before I reset it and the Tripmeter B - I reset Tripmeter A every time I get an oil change).

I HAVE gotten as high as 21 MPG (according to the L-o-M), over a stretch of 50 miles or so, where I was driving on cruise control going 60 - 65. But, by the time I actually filled up again, the average had dropped from 21 back down to a more normal number for me. I have never gotten higher than 16.7 on any hand calculated fill-up of more than 10 gallons.

 

[Jwsmith]

You must have very few miles, or be basing your statement on the lie-o-meter, or both. Or do you have the V6 with eTorque?

I have the Hemi w/eTorque, 4WD, and 3.92 gearing.

I have been tracking my mileage with Fuelly since I got the truck. So, about 7000 miles now, all hand calculated.

My mileage over the whole time is 14.5 MPG. Over the last 10 fill-ups, the average is 15.3.

Sometimes, the lie-o-meter is right on with the hand calculated. But, just for example, my last fill-up was 31.3 gallons. The lie-o-meter said I had gotten 17.2 MPG on that tank. The hand calculation came out to 15.1. Seeing as how the hand calculation is a much closer match to the lifetime stats, I'm inclined to believe it. The lie-o-meter is just random. I record every fill-up in Fuelly and I add a note to every fill-up with what the Lie-o-meter said for that tank (just before I reset it and the Tripmeter B - I reset Tripmeter A every time I get an oil change).

I HAVE gotten as high as 21 MPG (according to the L-o-M), over a stretch of 50 miles or so, where I was driving on cruise control going 60 - 65. But, by the time I actually filled up again, the average had dropped from 21 back down to a more normal number for me. I have never gotten higher than 16.7 on any hand calculated fill-up of more than 10 gallons.

Just finished a 3500 mile trip from MI to NM and back, drove 75 where posted in Oklahoma, Texas, and NM - drove more for time than mileage. Fill ups were all over 10 gallons, hand calculated average for the trip was 19.56 and ranged from 18.6 to 21.4. the 23 gallon tank Outlast my need for relief stops.

 

[SD Rebel]

I had a 2015 F150 XLT with the 2.7L Ecoboost. An absolute gem of a motor, that F150 would blow the doors off my Rebel Hemi no question. Also got me about 3-5 mpg more on all driving conditions. That F150, even though it was the first year was essentially flawless. I planned on keeping it for a long time, but fell in love with the Rebel.

That being said, there is something about a big V8 and a nice exhaust that adds a sense of occasion to the driving experience. Even just going down the way to pickup up some take out, it's an experience! However, you pay a price, in this case it's the mpg.

Yes, my Rebel with it's 33" tires and 3.92 rear axle gets pretty crappy mpg in mixed and city, I'm average about 13.5 mpg in a mixed situation, plus it's a touch slower, but for me, it's worth it for the aural sensation and the overall package of the RAM.

 

[StuartV]

Just finished a 3500 mile trip from MI to NM and back, drove 75 where posted in Oklahoma, Texas, and NM - drove more for time than mileage. Fill ups were all over 10 gallons, hand calculated average for the trip was 19.56 and ranged from 18.6 to 21.4. the 23 gallon tank Outlast my need for relief stops.

2wd?

I always drive 10 over the limit. So, on the highway, mostly 80.

 

[Jwsmith]

4x4 in 2 WD mode.

 

[SilverSurfer15]

It’s kind of crazy how different the mileages are between say a rebel and a Laramie with 3.21 and all season tires.

 

[SD Rebel]

It’s kind of crazy how different the mileages are between say a rebel and a Laramie with 3.21 and all season tires.

Yup, tire size and tread pattern make a huge difference in mpg. I remember even on street tires, I went with a slightly taller tire (65 vs 60) and my mpg dropped 1 mpg. Can imagine going from a smaller street to taller A/T what will happen. The rear end ratio and taller ride height also ads to it.

The biggest difference can be seen on city/mix driving, on the highway can average 19 mpg with my Rebel. The second I hit the city, it drops to 10 mpg.

 

[SilverSurfer15]

I never got anywhere near 19, I got 18 once at 55 mostly on back roads. Usual highway was ~15 plus or minus ~1 depending on speed.

I also never get 10, not even now. I stay around 12-13 now. The one tank I hand cal with terrible city driving and lots of idle was still 11.3.

I can’t imagine etorque does anything for mileage, but I suppose it’s hard to say. For a select few it might help.

 

[PeteB]

I recently drove from Houston to Phoenix and got 22.6 mpg.
Lonestar: 5.7L etorque, 3.92 rear, crewcab, 5'7" bed, 4x4 in 2wd mode.
I drove the speed limit, mostly 75 mph, with just my wife and myself and a little baggage in the back seat; bed was empty.
I have 2200 miles on the truck.
BTW, my first RAM.

 

[StuartV]

Yup, tire size and tread pattern make a huge difference in mpg. I remember even on street tires, I went with a slightly taller tire (65 vs 60) and my mpg dropped 1 mpg.

Is that based on odometer readings (for the MPG calculation)? And did you recalibrate the speedo/odo after changing to a taller tire?

If you did not recalibrate, then the truck said you want a certain distance when really, because of the taller tire, you actually went further than that. So, maybe mileage dropped. Or maybe it just looked like it dropped because the speedo and odo were not recalibrated?

 

[StuartV]

I recently drove from Houston to Phoenix and got 22.6 mpg.
Lonestar: 5.7L etorque, 3.92 rear, crewcab, 5'7" bed, 4x4 in 2wd mode.
I drove the speed limit, mostly 75 mph, with just my wife and myself and a little baggage in the back seat; bed was empty.
I have 2200 miles on the truck.
BTW, my first RAM.

That is amazing. Is that hand calculated, or what the onboard computer (aka Lie-o-Meter) said?

Even if it was the LoM, that's still amazing. The most mine has been off is about 2 MPG. So, even you only really got 20, that would still blow me away. And we have pretty much identical trucks, except mine is a loaded up Laramie.

I usually drive about 80 (to 85, once I get out of Vir-f**king-ginia). But, I wouldn't think 5 - 10 MPH would make THAT much difference.

 

[kblast523]

I too, traded a 2015 F-150 SCrew 2.7EB for the RAM. The Ford was NOT flawless...needed five (5) oil pans and they still hadn't stopped the leak. Had problems with the frozen door locks (in Texas no less). Takata made the seat belt re-tractor and had that recall accomplished. Someone referred to a weed-eater sound of the EB...you musta been driving with the window down because Ford pipes in 302 v-8 exhaust noise just to keep people like me happy. But I traded, came to RAM, and the guy who bought my Ford last April has already had at least one oil pan put on it...because it still leaks. My RAM doesn't leak. It is in the shop as I write this to make an attempt at avoiding a lemon law buyback...seems like it might be successful. After the fellow with TexDOT DMV Lemon Law division finished interrogating my wife (co-owner) and verifying I wasn't trying to defraud anyone, she hung up the phone turned to me and asked: " Do you really want to get them to buy this truck back? I like it, even though I've never had a RAM, or a Dodge for that matter..." No, but it DID get FCA's attention.

Back to the mileage issue...Ford EB 2.7 highway 21 to 24 mpg. ALWAYS burned premium, or it was more like 18-20.
City with premium anywhere between 15-17 mpg, lifetime average WAY LOW because in 48k miles I pulled a 6000lb trailer over 23k miles. Most of the time got 10.5 to 14 mpg pulling, all time record low was 7.8 mpg running into 40 mph headwind @ 50mph. Several trips had tailwinds 20-30 mph and 12-14 was normal.

2019 RAM 5.7l 2wd with 3.21 non posi and no eTorque highway 19.5 to 23 on 88 octane (mid grade) only $0.20 gallon more than 86 octane (read the manual). Around town, what little around towning I do, 15-17 mpg which is EXACTLY what the F-150 did...and only trip I have made towing the 6000 lb trailer, got 10.8 into a headwind both coming AND going for 189 miles. Did this using less expensive fuel, too....

And the sound...glorious sound of a HEMI working to pull me down the road, the roar of the pipes reminding me whether loaded or empty, of the 'good old days' before we strangled cars with cataclysmic converters and smog devices...oh wait...the RAM has all that and STILL sounds good! (Thanks B2 Fabrication).

Lie-O-Meter off by about .5 mpg in the Ford, .3 mpg in the RAM
All calcs recorded and logged...

 

[cotonymopar]

I buy exactly what I want, get what I want, and not complain about it... 5.7 is not a 6cyl turbo, it is a v8, with MDS. you need to learn how to drive it, and when you do, you will get better gas mileage, trive it like you stole it, you will get crappy mileage...

 

[SilverSurfer15]

I buy exactly what I want, get what I want, and not complain about it... 5.7 is not a 6cyl turbo, it is a v8, with MDS. you need to learn how to drive it, and when you do, you will get better gas mileage, trive it like you stole it, you will get crappy mileage...

 

[JJRamTX]

With mostly city driving I am getting about 17.1MPG now with the e-Torque and I am very pleased with this number coming from a 2007 Ram Quad Laramie 4x4 3.92 5.7 with MDS that was only getting 14.2MPG. I am happy with the 17% increase in fuel economy, especially since the 2019 is roomier, heavier, tows more, is plush as can be, and is more fun to drive!

 

[SD Rebel]

Is that based on odometer readings (for the MPG calculation)? And did you recalibrate the speedo/odo after changing to a taller tire?

If you did not recalibrate, then the truck said you want a certain distance when really, because of the taller tire, you actually went further than that. So, maybe mileage dropped. Or maybe it just looked like it dropped because the speedo and odo were not recalibrated?

Pure hand readings using odometer and Fuelly app with my current truck. The larger tire scenario I mentioned was a 2000 F150 Supercab V6 I had a long time ago, it was recalibrated for the tire size. I was also using hand calculations for my mpg because it didn't have a computer. I also forget to mention besides the lower mpg, it was noticeable slower as well. I was amazed how such a small difference in tire height had such an effect on performance and mpg. But we are talking about an old school V6, didn't have the torque and efficiency of modern motors.

 

[SD Rebel]

I never got anywhere near 19, I got 18 once at 55 mostly on back roads. Usual highway was ~15 plus or minus ~1 depending on speed.

I also never get 10, not even now. I stay around 12-13 now. The one tank I hand cal with terrible city driving and lots of idle was still 11.3.

I can’t imagine etorque does anything for mileage, but I suppose it’s hard to say. For a select few it might help.

My city mpg is especially low because I live in San Diego, which has a lot of hills and lots of stop lights. City driving is going to burn more fuel here than most places do to the elevation changes. Driving with flatter roads and less stop and go city, I can probably get closer to 13-14 mpg city. Plus I get that sweet sounding exhaust, which means I tend to drive in a way that lets me hear it more and in turn uses up more fuel.

Also I don't drive with MDS.

 

[StuartV]

2019 RAM 5.7l 2wd with 3.21 non posi and no eTorque highway 19.5 to 23 on 88 octane (mid grade) only $0.20 gallon more than 86 octane (read the manual).

I have been running 89 since the odo said 873 miles. So, the last more-than-6000 miles.

I realize that my scenario is probably just about worst-case. I work from home, so no commute. I live right in the middle of a very urban area. So, everywhere I go is generally within a mile, maybe 2, and it's all stop-and-go. OR, it's a road trip and I'm on congested Interstate highways with the adaptive cruise set at 80. That means lots of slowing down from 80 and then speeding back up.

I wouldn't mind the mileage so much if the overall engine performance didn't feel JUST like the Hemi in my previous truck (an '09 RAM 1500). That is actually the reason I didn't buy a new truck sooner. I drove a '19 when they first came out. Engine-wise, it felt just like driving the truck I already had - which is okay, but it's certainly not fast or even a top performer in the class. I really wanted to hold out for either the new EcoDiesel or an option for a bigger, faster Hemi, like the 6.4L or possibly a supercharged version.

I finally bit and got a new truck because, one, it was 26% off MSRP AND they gave me a more-than-fair trade-in value on my '09, and, two, my '09 was in the shop 3 times, for a combined total of about 6 weeks, in the 8 months or so prior to getting the new truck. It was under warranty, so it wasn't really costing me anything - except time and aggravation, and I got tired of that!

My new truck has been in the shop for a week and a half now, getting the bumper and tailgate replaced from where I backed into a pole (dumbass!!). I've had an F150 XLT Crew Cab as a rental. I'm not positive, but I think it has the 2.7 EB. At first I didn't like it because it's a very basic trim level. None of the bells and whistles like I have on my RAM. But, the engine has really grown on me. It doesn't SOUND like a V8, but I think it actually drives a lot nicer than my Hemi. And especially so if I put it in Sport mode (which I have only bothered with 2 or 3 times). The Hemi is not gutless, but compared to this EB, it kinda feels that way. With the EB, you can just tip into the throttle to accelerate (say, to pass a car) and it goes. With the Hemi, it usually has to downshift at least one gear before it really pulls. The Hemi pulls good and sounds badass when I mat the pedal - but I just don't do that very often. Normal acceleration from a light, or non-full throttle acceleration to pass somebody is something a do WAY, WAAYY more often. And for that, the EB is nicer-driving.

Engine aside, I think the RAM is better in every way, so I will not be jumping back to Ford (which is all I had before '09). But, if the RAM had an option for a motor just like the Raptor has, I probably would be in line for a trade-in.