Ram tune (LIVERNOIS or Diablo) - any experience?

[mcat79]

I am looking to get a tune with a primary benefit of reduced drive-by-wire delay and also improved shifting, and secondarily any performance boosts. Based on my own research I am looking at Diablo and Livernois). I am curious if any of you have any feedback on either of those.

1. How was the process to get the PCM unlocked
2. How are the ends results
3. Any other feedback

 

[vincentw56]

I am looking to get a tune with a primary benefit of reduced drive-by-wire delay and also improved shifting, and secondarily any performance boosts. Based on my own research I am looking at Diablo and Livernois). I am curious if any of you have any feedback on either of those.

1. How was the process to get the PCM unlocked
2. How are the ends results
3. Any other feedback

You didn't supply any vehicle info. But the Pulsar does all that without having to unlock your PCM. I'd say, unless you are changing engine internals and certain external items, you might be better off. Just my opinion.

 

[HemiDude]

You didn't supply any vehicle info. But the Pulsar does all that without having to unlock your PCM. I'd say, unless you are changing engine internals and certain external items, you might be better off. Just my opinion.

I agree with what you stated, with the caveat that the Pulsar does not work and play well with the GT, so as long as OP has doesn't have one of those the Pulsar is a good investment, and meets the needs he stated.

@mcat79 , I can't speak to Livernois, but I can say Diablo will easily meet your stated goals. I purchased an unlocked PCM along with my tuner from them, and install went as planned. I only encountered one issue after install, MDS-off setting was inconsistent. I worked with Diablo (I think it was Mike?) to get parameters nailed down and he was able to send me a download that worked great. Trans feel/shifting is much improved, throttle lag was addressed, and I am satisfied with the performance from the 93 tune.

 

[Trooper4]

You didn't supply any vehicle info. But the Pulsar does all that without having to unlock your PCM. I'd say, unless you are changing engine internals and certain external items, you might be better off. Just my opinion.

I have had the Pulsar for 4 years and used it to get rid of throttle lag, and the jump from stop signs. It also smoothed out the shifts for me, and works great while towing. Very pleased with the performance of it, and pretty much leave it in the economy setting.

 

[Ready Go]

NO Pulsar if you have a G/T unfortunately!

If going with Diablosport, consider having High Horse Performance or other Mopar Performance Shop do a "custom" tune for you. Once you have an unlocked ECM and DS Programmer, HHP will have you email them your current ECM datalog to read, and then will write a tune to optimize your parameters and email it to you to upload..pretty simple process to get as much as possible without a full custom dyno tune.

 

[mcat79]

You didn't supply any vehicle info. But the Pulsar does all that without having to unlock your PCM. I'd say, unless you are changing engine internals and certain external items, you might be better off. Just my opinion.

Sorry, it was in my signature though - "2022 Laramie 1500 crew cab 4x4 5‘7, Granite Crystal black interior 5.7 Hemi eTorque, ORP"

Will the pulsar throttle change be similar to a Livernois/Diablo tune or more akin to a pedal commander? Any downsides to going with Pulsar if I dont have any other mods?

 

[Nukldragger]

I'd avoid Livernois....they have a questionable reputation in the Charger/Challenger community.

Or so I've read.....

 

[mcat79]

Thanks for all of the feedback. I ended up ordering a Diablo i3 via Hemifever with his custom tune, including the trans tune. Fingers crossed! I’ll report back if anyone is interested in results/experience.

 

[HemiDude]

Thanks for all of the feedback. I ended up ordering a Diablo i3 via Hemifever with his custom tune, including the trans tune. Fingers crossed! I’ll report back if anyone is interested in results/experience.

Absolutely interested in your results and opinion after you get that done

 

[Scap]

I'd avoid Livernois....they have a questionable reputation in the Charger/Challenger community.

Or so I've read.....

Same in Ecoboost communities.

 

[1791]

it's simple if less drive by wire delay is your goal than BANKS PETAL MONSTER is the most effective and least expensive way to go.
i got a PULSAR first so i could have the drive modes and turn off MDS and added a MONSTER last week. so i have a PULSAR and the MONSTER on my truck if i did it again i would just put the monster on and let it be. it's a different truck with the banks. DO NOT trust any other throttle controller BANKS is the be all end all.
and it's MADE IN THE USA. thank you Mr Banks

 

[mcat79]

Absolutely interested in your results and opinion after you get that done

It took a while but finally got the tune installed and tested. I ordered the Diablo tuner through Hemifever (Sean is great to work with!) and selected the PCM swap. The tuner itself came in very quickly, but there wasn't much I could do with it until I had the unlocked PCM. The PCM took almost 2 weeks to arrive.

I received the PCM just minutes before leaving on a cross country roadtrip. So I did a quick swap (very easy process) and installed the canned Diablo tune and headed out from Illinois to Florida. Immediately the truck felt more alive, albeit with mainly highway driving. Once I arrived in Florida I had received the Hemifever tune which I installed in place of the canned Diable tune (I did both normal tune plus Trans tune). Immediately I did not notice a huge difference other than it pulling off the line a bit quicker. I kept the HF tune on while in Florida and drive back with it. As part of the process you do some logging and send to HF to review, so once I got back I sent the logs to Sean who reviewed them within the hour and confirmed everything looked good. I asked for a minor change which he provided me in a v2 tune.

Just for fun, I went back to the stock tune and drove around the neighborhood a bit, yuck. The truck felt so sluggish. V2 is on now and I'm enjoying it!

If anyone has any questions please let me know. I had trouble finding a ton of details so happy to help others.

 

[Logan3426!]

I am looking to get a tune with a primary benefit of reduced drive-by-wire delay and also improved shifting, and secondarily any performance boosts. Based on my own research I am looking at Diablo and Livernois). I am curious if any of you have any feedback on either of those.

1. How was the process to get the PCM unlocked
2. How are the ends results
3. Any other feedback

I’ve done the pulsar tuner and install and results are great on my 21 5.7 hemi

 

[Logan3426!]

it's simple if less drive by wire delay is your goal than BANKS PETAL MONSTER is the most effective and least expensive way to go.
i got a PULSAR first so i could have the drive modes and turn off MDS and added a MONSTER last week. so i have a PULSAR and the MONSTER on my truck if i did it again i would just put the monster on and let it be. it's a different truck with the banks. DO NOT trust any other throttle controller BANKS is the be all end all.
and it's MADE IN THE USA. thank you Mr Banks

How does the banks react with the pulsar any issues ?

 

[1791]

How does the banks react with the pulsar any issues ?

no issues at all but if i run in "performance" on the pulsar then i turn down the banks a little or not. it's like it was back in the days of 400hp with a well tuned carburetor.
i can tell you if i turn it all off i don't know how i lived with out them.
stock to me has no throttle response and is kind of sluggish.
the monster is great because you can turn it down in snow or rain or if the wife want's to use the truck....

 

[HemiDude]

It took a while but finally got the tune installed and tested. I ordered the Diablo tuner through Hemifever (Sean is great to work with!) and selected the PCM swap. The tuner itself came in very quickly, but there wasn't much I could do with it until I had the unlocked PCM. The PCM took almost 2 weeks to arrive.

I received the PCM just minutes before leaving on a cross country roadtrip. So I did a quick swap (very easy process) and installed the canned Diablo tune and headed out from Illinois to Florida. Immediately the truck felt more alive, albeit with mainly highway driving. Once I arrived in Florida I had received the Hemifever tune which I installed in place of the canned Diable tune (I did both normal tune plus Trans tune). Immediately I did not notice a huge difference other than it pulling off the line a bit quicker. I kept the HF tune on while in Florida and drive back with it. As part of the process you do some logging and send to HF to review, so once I got back I sent the logs to Sean who reviewed them within the hour and confirmed everything looked good. I asked for a minor change which he provided me in a v2 tune.

Just for fun, I went back to the stock tune and drove around the neighborhood a bit, yuck. The truck felt so sluggish. V2 is on now and I'm enjoying it!

If anyone has any questions please let me know. I had trouble finding a ton of details so happy to help others.

Glad you are liking it. If I understand you correctly, it sounds like you didn't notice much of a difference between the canned tune and HF tune? Was the diff enough to justify the extra cost? The canned tune felt decent on my Ram, and I have made a couple tweaks that improved throttle response, but I would like a little more power at higher rpm's... Don't know how much I should expect without other upgrades, though...

 

[mcat79]

If I

Glad you are liking it. If I understand you correctly, it sounds like you didn't notice much of a difference between the canned tune and HF tune? Was the diff enough to justify the extra cost? The canned tune felt decent on my Ram, and I have made a couple tweaks that improved throttle response, but I would like a little more power at higher rpm's... Don't know how much I should expect without other upgrades, though...

Being I was on a road trip I wasn't able to fairly compare the canned Diablo to the HF tune. Also, I went with an 87 tune as power wasn't my primary goal. If I get a chance I'll go back to the Diablo tune and then compare against the HF tune, but FWIW it'll be a fairly subjective comparison.

 

[HemiDude]

Mine is a DD, I always run premium in the Summer with the Diablo tune. In the Winter it doesn;t really matter because the weather is too crappy to enjoy its full potential, so whatever opinions/data you end up sharing will be worth something to me.

 

[mcat79]

Mine is a DD, I always run premium in the Summer with the Diablo tune. In the Winter it doesn;t really matter because the weather is too crappy to enjoy its full potential, so whatever opinions/data you end up sharing will be worth something to me.

I took a few mins today and put the diablo tune (and trans tune) on and drove it around a bit. It felt a bit sluggish compared to the hemifever tune, but way batter than stock. I then put the hemifever tune back on and it felt a lot more lively. If you invest in the diablo, it's probably worth it (IMHO) to invest in the HF tune too. FWIW, my wife drove quite a bit with the diablo tune and never noticed much. With the HF tune on she just came back home a bit angry because she kept chirping the tires.

 

[ikreider]

I had high horse performance write a custom tune for my 6.1 hemi charger, they sent it via email and I uploaded it to the programmer then installed in the vehicle. Wow what a difference! I had the Diablo sport trinity tuner