Ram CEO Claims That 1500 Customers Prefer the HEMI V8 Over the Hurricane I6

[RonsSRT1]

From what I'm hearing, the announcement could be as early as February that it's coming to the Ram trucks. The 5.7 Hemi is going to be about $47,000 while the 392 Hemi is going to be about $52,000. So for a few thousand more, you can get the bigger motor so why get the 5.7. I have the 392 in my weekend nice weather only Challenger, I love the engine and never had any problems with it. Power wise, it pushes out 550 horse at the crank and for me that's good enough. If people want that all the time, buy a TRX, do whatever makes you happy. But like I said, it's a pickup truck, not a Charger/Challenger Hellcat. And my Challenger get's 24+ mpg driving normal, 20mpg stomping the pedal.

 

[SD Rebel]

From what I'm hearing, the announcement could be as early as February that it's coming to the Ram trucks. The 5.7 Hemi is going to be about $47,000 while the 392 Hemi is going to be about $52,000. So for a few thousand more, you can get the bigger motor so why get the 5.7. I have the 392 in my weekend nice weather only Challenger, I love the engine and never had any problems with it. Power wise, it pushes out 550 horse at the crank and for me that's good enough. If people want that all the time, buy a TRX, do whatever makes you happy. But like I said, it's a pickup truck, not a Charger/Challenger Hellcat. And my Challenger get's 24+ mpg driving normal, 20mpg stomping the pedal.

That would be cool, the question is which 6.4L do we get? The one from the 2500 or the one from the Charger/Challenger? If it's a volume motor, I think we get the truck one with only 410 hp.

The powerful one, I suspect that would be a 100K special edition in the RAM like it is in the Wrangler.

 

[mikeru82]

From what I'm hearing, the announcement could be as early as February that it's coming to the Ram trucks. The 5.7 Hemi is going to be about $47,000 while the 392 Hemi is going to be about $52,000. So for a few thousand more, you can get the bigger motor so why get the 5.7. I have the 392 in my weekend nice weather only Challenger, I love the engine and never had any problems with it. Power wise, it pushes out 550 horse at the crank and for me that's good enough. If people want that all the time, buy a TRX, do whatever makes you happy. But like I said, it's a pickup truck, not a Charger/Challenger Hellcat. And my Challenger get's 24+ mpg driving normal, 20mpg stomping the pedal.

I’m curious to know where you’re hearing this information?

 

[LOWRMPG]

This really says it all right here "While not as capable as the 3.0-liter Hurricane I6, the 5.7-liter HEMI V8 is a commercial hit for the half-ton Ram truck." Your buyers are dumb - if they are buying a 'lesser' product intentionally. What does that say about RAM buyers? Coming from F series all my life, if I were still in a Ford and heard this, I'd say RAM buyers sound pretty silly. Given the economic state of Stellantis, I'm not sure creating inferior products, or increasing engine options which increases cost, is a smart move.

 

[silver billet]

That would be cool, the question is which 6.4L do we get? The one from the 2500 or the one from the Charger/Challenger? If it's a volume motor, I think we get the truck one with only 410 hp.

The powerful one, I suspect that would be a 100K special edition in the RAM like it is in the Wrangler.

Why would they give us the BGE? Makes no sense, every other 6.4 is the SRT at 485 hp. The BGE has a different focus, mainly duty cycle at the expense of power output. This would be a less desirable trait in a half ton where the 5.7 is already capable of maxing out power and duty cycle requirements, it's not needed in a 1500, we're not towing nearly that heavy.

My money is on the SRT. I'm less certain about trim though. I wouldn't put it pass them to package it like the wrangler and other 392's as an expensive package, but I'm hopeful they have a bit of brains left and give it to us as a $1000 to $2000 upgrade over the 5.7 in any trim/package we want.

 

[SD Rebel]

This really says it all right here "While not as capable as the 3.0-liter Hurricane I6, the 5.7-liter HEMI V8 is a commercial hit for the half-ton Ram truck." Your buyers are dumb.

People want what they want. Engines are more than the spec on a piece of paper, yes the Hurricane is more powerful, but how reliable and durable will it actually be? Just ask the Tundra guys who want their V8 back. That being said, it could be great, we just don't know yet.

The Hurricane sounds like a blender, something I don't personally like, even though I'm ordering one soon. I rather have the Hemi, but getting the Hurricane. My reason for getting one is due to circumstances of that purchase more than my interest in the engine.

Maybe I'll end up loving it.

 

[SD Rebel]

Why would they give us the BGE? Makes no sense, every other 6.4 is the SRT at 485 hp. The BGE has a different focus, mainly duty cycle at the expense of power output. This would be a less desirable trait in a half ton where the 5.7 is already capable of maxing out power and duty cycle requirements, it's not needed in a 1500, we're not towing nearly that heavy.

My money is on the SRT. I'm less certain about trim though. I wouldn't put it pass them to package it like the wrangler and other 392's as an expensive package, but I'm hopeful they have a bit of brains left and give it to us as a $1000 to $2000 upgrade over the 5.7 in any trim/package we want.

That makes sense, hopefully you're right, though I suspect they aren't going to be charging that little for an SRT 6.4L in a RAM 1500. But as you mentioned and I said earlier, looking at the Wrangler and Durango with that motor, I just don't see it being a volume moderately priced option for regular 1500s.

My money is they will either give us a volume lower powered version or a high powered limited edition one.

 

[silver billet]

That makes sense, hopefully you're right, though I suspect they aren't going to be charging that little for an SRT 6.4L in a RAM 1500. But as you mentioned and I said earlier, looking at the Wrangler and Durango with that motor, I just don't see it being a volume moderately priced option for regular 1500s.

My money is they will either give us a volume lower powered version or a high powered limited edition one.

All speculation of course... and they might go the limited edition route, but with the TRX, RHO, Tungsten etc out there already, can they really prop up yet another $100k truck?

 

[SD Rebel]

All speculation of course... and they might go the limited edition route, but with the TRX, RHO, Tungsten etc out there already, can they really prop up yet another $100k truck?

It's Stellantis, the same company that released and under baked EV Charger before the gas version that immediately flopped and cost them billions. It wouldn't surprise me what they do.

I would love a truck tuned 6.4L for the regular 1500 at a moderate price, and an SRT 6.4L on the TRX/RHO platform, priced and placed below the RHO I6 H.O.

 

[HSKR R/T]

All speculation of course... and they might go the limited edition route, but with the TRX, RHO, Tungsten etc out there already, can they really prop up yet another $100k truck?

They can't release a 6.4 truck and have it be priced anywhere near the TRX pricing . Max, it shouldn't be more than 70k. And even that is pushing it. If it happens, I hope it will be a RWD factory lowered street truck. They already have multiple off road 4x4 edition trucks. Should be basically a scat pack Ram. Which, when I bought my Built to Serve, there was a Scat Pack Challenger in the show room prices lower than my Built to Serve.

 

[HSKR R/T]

Why would they give us the BGE? Makes no sense, every other 6.4 is the SRT at 485 hp. The BGE has a different focus, mainly duty cycle at the expense of power output. This would be a less desirable trait in a half ton where the 5.7 is already capable of maxing out power and duty cycle requirements, it's not needed in a 1500, we're not towing nearly that heavy.

My money is on the SRT. I'm less certain about trim though. I wouldn't put it pass them to package it like the wrangler and other 392's as an expensive package, but I'm hopeful they have a bit of brains left and give it to us as a $1000 to $2000 upgrade over the 5.7 in any trim/package we want.

Technically 6.4s use the BGE block now.

 

[silver billet]

It's Stellantis, the same company that released and under baked EV Charger before the gas version that immediately flopped and cost them billions. It wouldn't surprise me what they do.

True enough lol. But that was before Tim K was brought back...

 

[1791]

This really says it all right here "While not as capable as the 3.0-liter Hurricane I6, the 5.7-liter HEMI V8 is a commercial hit for the half-ton Ram truck." Your buyers are dumb - if they are buying a 'lesser' product intentionally. What does that say about RAM buyers? Coming from F series all my life, if I were still in a Ford and heard this, I'd say RAM buyers sound pretty silly. Given the economic state of Stellantis, I'm not sure creating inferior products, or increasing engine options which increases cost, is a smart move.

the way the market has gone is building turbo everything. some of us don't want to be forced to buy a turbo truck. ford still offers the 5.0 and don't force the ecoboost down you throat and for better or worse chevy has the 6.2 and the 5.3 with the i-4 turbo in a full size truck. taking away a naturally aspirated motor and forcing turbo's on RAM owners was a mistake. i don't think the hemi is not a lesser product just another option.