Ram 1500 2023 etourque - junk

[BowDown]

just for laughs... Ram should ask the customers what they think, LOL.

Why? The majority of owners are more than likley 100% satsified. Millions of etorque trucks on the road with relativley few problems. Youre going to hear Ram complaints on a Ram forum that sound frequent and numerous however the people with no issues arent on forums

 

[vincentw56]

Why? The majority of owners are more than likley 100% satsified. Millions of etorque trucks on the road with relativley few problems. Youre going to hear Ram complaints on a Ram forum that sound frequent and numerous however the people with no issues arent on forums

Yeah, I've not made a post saying that my eTorque truck runs fine. People don't really do that.

 

[cerbo]

Why? The majority of owners are more than likley 100% satsified. Millions of etorque trucks on the road with relativley few problems. Youre going to hear Ram complaints on a Ram forum that sound frequent and numerous however the people with no issues arent on forums

I am not a fan of a two battery system. too complicated, cost more and down the road questionable reliability . Wonder how much that added to the MSRP? I d rather put a little extra fuel because I don t think it s a cost effective system. Why are people waiting weeks for an e torque generator ? I don t care how many it is, if it s you it matters. Again what s the payoff to take the chance ? I have 2 vehicles with the 48 volt battery system for S/S, and one with no extra system. They are getting harder to find. It is undoubtedly a complex system and can be harder to trouble shoot issues. Mine has worked fine at 13K and a year. Most times I shut it down with the button anyway. So my not liking the system has more than "is it working now " thinking.

 

[Willwork4truck]

Yeah, I've not made a post saying that my eTorque truck runs fine. People don't really do that.

Ha Ha. I've only got 15K but mine runs fine. No charging, starting or any other issues with ET. I'd have taken a truck w/o it but for 23' there was no choice.

 

[BowDown]

I am not a fan of a two battery system. too complicated, cost more and down the road questionable reliability . Wonder how much that added to the MSRP? I d rather put a little extra fuel because I don t think it s a cost effective system. Why are people waiting weeks for an e torque generator ? I don t care how many it is, if it s you it matters. Again what s the payoff to take the chance ? I have 2 vehicles with the 48 volt battery system for S/S, and one with no extra system. They are getting harder to find. It is undoubtedly a complex system and can be harder to trouble shoot issues. Mine has worked fine at 13K and a year. Most times I shut it down with the button anyway. So my not liking the system has more than "is it working now " thinking.

The truck as a whole is complicated, most modern cars are but you are talking about hypotheticals with regards to reliability; there's more threads here about broken and problematic 4x4 systems than there are etorque problem threads. People are waiting weeks for all kinds of simple production parts, been on any other car forums, this is limited to Ram or the etorque generator.

Your fuel and payoff comments are subjective and your opinion, I don't know how cost effective it is however it does keep my mpgs in the city up above 16-17mpg so I cant say its not effective.
I have 88K miles with no issues and there's many others that have much higher with never an issue.

This is the problem with forums though, many people use the few vocal complaints heard on forums to make wide speculative criticisms of the entire, in this case, line of Rams with etorque which is false.

 

[BowDown]

Yeah, I've not made a post saying that my eTorque truck runs fine. People don't really do that.

Me neither. Id be willing to bet that if a national pole was created asking the question, the "problems" response would be dwarfed by the "no problems" responses

 

[Sdhills]

This problem is real. Happened to me.

 

[Jmac509]

I have the E torque system and have had a few instances where either the belt is slipping or something is going on with the transmission when restarting from a stop.

However this is not the first report of this issues with the E torque system. If you search through the forums there are other reports of people having issues with the truck not restarting or turning off and leaving them stranded in traffic. There are also numerous reports of people being unhappy with the system due to needing maintenance and not having any replacement parts available.

I hope I never have to experience these issues in the future.

 

[Willwork4truck]

It's like anything else that's mass produced, there will be problems. Hemi lifters, GM AFM/DFM etc.
At least it's not anywhere near the level of the Kia 2.4 motor disaster.

 

[BowDown]

This problem is real. Happened to me.

No one is sayng its not real, just that its not a bad system or a reason to avoid the truck; the complaints are overblown on forums like every other issue.

 

[BowDown]

It's like anything else that's mass produced, there will be problems. Hemi lifters, GM AFM/DFM etc.
At least it's not anywhere near the level of the Kia 2.4 motor disaster.

Or the GM 6.2

 

[SpeedyV]

I am not a fan of a two battery system. too complicated, cost more and down the road questionable reliability . Wonder how much that added to the MSRP? I d rather put a little extra fuel because I don t think it s a cost effective system. Why are people waiting weeks for an e torque generator ? I don t care how many it is, if it s you it matters. Again what s the payoff to take the chance ? I have 2 vehicles with the 48 volt battery system for S/S, and one with no extra system. They are getting harder to find. It is undoubtedly a complex system and can be harder to trouble shoot issues. Mine has worked fine at 13K and a year. Most times I shut it down with the button anyway. So my not liking the system has more than "is it working now " thinking.

FWIW - it added $895 to MSRP when I ordered mine in May 2018 (not that I paid MSRP).

Knock on wood, but no eTorque issues in 5+ years and (an admittedly modest) 58k miles.

 

[vtcats]

For me, I'm curious to know how this began, to get the E-torque system installed to begin with. It's fairly new correct? Meaning, was it due to complaints about the abrupt starts due to the START/STOP addition? Was it for improving the fuel mileage (or both) and if so, what real testing to show this improvement was done (not marketing youtubes)? If it goes back to the START/STOP, why was THAT added to the truck? Were these all improvements to make the vehicle more attractive to the customer, or was it mostly federal incentives or regulations? It's always about the BIG Picture to me, rather than getting too emotional about details.

 

[Upupandaway]

I'm happy to be rid of my 2020 eTorque. The vast majority of trucks here are fine with it, but then theres the few that are not and it is a piece that is 100% integral to the truck functioning at all, so when it goes bad, its bad - unlike a mechanic part wearing out and needing to be replaced. In addition to that, the part is backordered across North America by the thousands, so not only is your truck done with a faulty eTorque, you can't even get it fixed right now.

But, like it's been pointed out, forums are often more full of complaints because most people join looking for solutions to their problems.

 

[SpeedyV]

For me, I'm curious to know how this began, to get the E-torque system installed to begin with. It's fairly new correct? Meaning, was it due to complaints about the abrupt starts due to the START/STOP addition? Was it for improving the fuel mileage (or both) and if so, what real testing to show this improvement was done (not marketing youtubes)? If it goes back to the START/STOP, why was THAT added to the truck? Were these all improvements to make the vehicle more attractive to the customer, or was it mostly federal incentives or regulations? It's always about the BIG Picture to me, rather than getting too emotional about details.

eTorque was first implemented on Jeep vehicles starting in 2018. It was advertised as providing fuel economy and towing benefits, but I'm sure it was primarily introduced to help FCA (now Stellantis) meet fleet fuel economy targets.

Years ago, I posted reports compiled from Fuelly that showed a small real-world economy benefit, based on driver reports. From the consumer perspective, it's also widely agreed that eTorque provides smoother stop/start performance than any traditional starter-driven system. Regenerative braking provided by eTorque has also proven to significantly increase brake life for vehicle owners. And while most of the vehicle's system is still 12V, the 48V components of the eTorque system are inherently more efficient.

But these and other eTorque features/benefits are very minor/incremental - hence my opinion that this was done primarily to help meet federal regulations in lieu of an entirely new engine program (at the time). I personally ordered a RAM with eTorque partly because I'm a technology junkie and partly for the slight increase in fuel economy.

 

[cerbo]

For me, I'm curious to know how this began, to get the E-torque system installed to begin with. It's fairly new correct? Meaning, was it due to complaints about the abrupt starts due to the START/STOP addition? Was it for improving the fuel mileage (or both) and if so, what real testing to show this improvement was done (not marketing youtubes)? If it goes back to the START/STOP, why was THAT added to the truck? Were these all improvements to make the vehicle more attractive to the customer, or was it mostly federal incentives or regulations? It's always about the BIG Picture to me, rather than getting too emotional about details.

federal incentives and mandates. customers mostly don t want it IMO.

 

[Trooper4]

Yeah, I've not made a post saying that my eTorque truck runs fine. People don't really do that.

Hey Vincent, in your opinion, a vehicle shutting down while driving, could it be the E Torque. My thought is no. It is a starter/generator, and should not affect a vehicle accept in a stop-n-go scenario at a stop light.

 

[mikeru82]

For me, I'm curious to know how this began, to get the E-torque system installed to begin with. It's fairly new correct? Meaning, was it due to complaints about the abrupt starts due to the START/STOP addition? Was it for improving the fuel mileage (or both) and if so, what real testing to show this improvement was done (not marketing youtubes)? If it goes back to the START/STOP, why was THAT added to the truck? Were these all improvements to make the vehicle more attractive to the customer, or was it mostly federal incentives or regulations? It's always about the BIG Picture to me, rather than getting too emotional about details.

E-torque on Ram 1500's came in with the 5th gen redesign. No Ram trucks had stop/start prior to 5th gens, so any complaints about stop/start abruptness was from other types or brands of vehicles. The reasons for adding e-torque is well documented all over the web. No need to argue that here with opinions and half-truths when anyone can look that up for themselves.

 

[Trooper4]

just realized your user name Trooper , that says it all

Actually, it doesn't. It's from my days in the cav.
So, what does that tell you? That I have a low tolerance for whiners? If you can fix it, fix it. If you can't, then get someone that can. If neither of those work, then ASK FOR ADVICE, which you didn't. You just blew a fuze, telling everyone that it is crap, with no explanation of what happened or what you have done to try to mitigate the situation, which tells me that you are only looking for sympathy, which by the way, you can find in the dictionary between $h*t and $yphal!$.
If you want help, then let's hear the details, and what you have tried to do to get it fixed. There may be someone here that can help, but the way you went about it isn't the way to go if you really want help or advice, which you will find plenty of here.

 

[Willwork4truck]

Ip

Or the GM 6.2

Yep, my son bought a 2023 gm 6.2. I urged him to get the factory extended warranty due to their known issues.
Dont know if he did, all I can do is recommend. I’d not own any late model gm v8/10 speed drivetrain without one.