Oil change using an extraction pump

[Big White RAM]

Has anyone changed their oil on the 5.7L and drained it using an oil extraction pump? I have one that I use on my other vehicles, but cannot seem to get the tubing to go all the way down the dipstick tube and into the oil pan. This was the same situation on my 14 Ram. The tube goes in about 3/4 of the way and then stops. If anyone has had any success in doing this, I would be grateful to hear how they did it.

 

[Zig10]

This truck has a stupidly long dipstick, and I know my extractor tube won't come close to the bottom so I haven't even tried. I know on my previous GM it got hung up on something and left about a quart in the pan, and on my Ford I only get about 2/3 of the oil out with it.

In fact, the only vehicle I own that it works on is the outboard on my boat...which admittedly is what I bought it for. It would make life easier if it worked on the cars.

 

[Big White RAM]

Definately would make it easier on the Ram for sure. The extraction tube on my pump is the same diameter / width as the dipstick, but seems to get hung up around where the dipstick housing inserts into the engine block. I suppose I could try a smaller diameter tube, but that might make it difficult to extract the oil. No problems using it in any other vehicle that's why I'm at a loss as to why it wont work on the Ram.

 

[mikeru82]

I've never used an oil extractor to change oil. How can you be sure you got all the oil out unless you are measuring the amount of oil you remove? I guess I answered my own question LOL. But I can see this as tempting people to not replace the filter at each oil change. I don't see the benefit of using an extractor since I have to get under the truck to change the filter anyway. Why would you use one when it's easy enough to just remove the drain plug?

 

[Neurobit]

I've never used an oil extractor to change oil. How can you be sure you got all the oil out unless you are measuring the amount of oil you remove? I guess I answered my own question LOL. But I can see this as tempting people to not replace the filter at each oil change. I don't see the benefit of using an extractor since I have to get under the truck to change the filter anyway. Why would you use one when it's easy enough to just remove the drain plug?

Agreed. This makes a lot more sense on vehicles with the oil filter on top (we had a ML500 that had it. So easy to do).

 

[Big White RAM]

I actually do measure the oil removed, as the pump housing has graduated level indicators on the sides, also, the vehicles I do use it on have the oil filters on top. At some point, I'm going to relocate the oil filter to make it easier to change. That, along with the oil extractor, or a Fumoto drain valve will make it a breeze.

 

[Zig10]

I've never used an oil extractor to change oil. How can you be sure you got all the oil out unless you are measuring the amount of oil you remove? I guess I answered my own question LOL. But I can see this as tempting people to not replace the filter at each oil change. I don't see the benefit of using an extractor since I have to get under the truck to change the filter anyway. Why would you use one when it's easy enough to just remove the drain plug?

Mostly because this drain plug drips all over the axel. Anything to keep it cleaner is better in my experience.

Admittedly, the filter location is just horrible so I will end up spilling anyway, but I'd like to avoid as much cleanup as possible.

 

[SD Rebel]

Mostly because this drain plug drips all over the axel. Anything to keep it cleaner is better in my experience.

Admittedly, the filter location is just horrible so I will end up spilling anyway, but I'd like to avoid as much cleanup as possible.

Actually it doesn't drip over the axle, only the front sway bar, and only for about 30 seconds. A quick wipe with an old towel quickly takes care of the mess, it honestly isn't a big deal. I was going to make a funnel to reduce the spilling, but after my first oil change, realized it wasn't a problem at all. Also, using the two zip bag method to remove the oil filter can mean literally zero drips.

My truck's oil change was relatively easy. The only potential issue is an oil filter on there too tight from the factory, but from experience, getting the engine up to temp made the filter removal easy. Before my first oil change on the RAM I was expecting the worse, but it ended being really easy and pleasant to do.

 

[Zig10]

Actually it doesn't drip over the axle, only the front sway bar, and only for about 30 seconds. A quick wipe with an old towel quickly takes care of the mess, it honestly isn't a big deal. I was going to make a funnel to reduce the spilling, but after my first oil change, realized it wasn't a problem at all. Also, using the two zip bag method to remove the oil filter can mean literally zero drips.

My truck's oil change was relatively easy. The only potential issue is an oil filter on there too tight from the factory, but from experience, getting the engine up to temp made the filter removal easy. Before my first oil change on the RAM I was expecting the worse, but it ended being really easy and pleasant to do.

My bad. You are correct. But when it hit the sway bar on my mine it splashed all over the place. Bad luck for me I suppose.

 

[johnehr]

Agreed. This makes a lot more sense on vehicles with the oil filter on top (we had a ML500 that had it. So easy to do).

Yep, standard operating procedure for Mercedes, which is really nice. Oil and filter changes from the top of the engine.


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[jeffro2011]

Has anyone changed their oil on the 5.7L and drained it using an oil extraction pump? I have one that I use on my other vehicles, but cannot seem to get the tubing to go all the way down the dipstick tube and into the oil pan. This was the same situation on my 14 Ram. The tube goes in about 3/4 of the way and then stops. If anyone has had any success in doing this, I would be grateful to hear how they did it.

 

[jeffro2011]

I’m in the same boat as you. I’ve never had an issue with any other vehicles using the extractor. I was thinking of trying a smaller diameter tube if I can even find one.

 

[2021QCBH]

Fumoto valve and an oil udder XL = essentially 0 spillage outside of maybe a small drip or two. I do my changes hot and the first one sent oil everywhere when it hit the sway bar even with a large catch pan below.

I have some leftover 5 gallon cubes I put my waste oil in and with the fumoto setup I drain directly into those now so no need to clean up the catch pan every time.

With a drain extension on the oil udder I also drain the filter runoff directly into my 5 gallon cubes.

 

[Mountain Whiskey]

Bag of oil-dry and a can of brake cleaner on hand.

 

[cerbo]

I ve used extractor for years when I had a few Mercedes but I did my first change on the Ram and it was so simple. Bag over the filter and not a drop spilled. The drain plug had a second of a splash as you remove plug but it doesn't go on anything but a sway bar which couldn't be easier to wipe off. Plus I remember how slow the extractor method was.

 

[Tim Hungerford]

I have a 2017 with the Hemi, and yes, the tube supplied with my MityVac 3700 is too large to make it all the way to the pan. The smallest supplied hose is 1/4"OD / 1/8ID. I am 'hoping' there is not a baffle preventing access to the pan. I've ordered an 1/8 OD by 1/16 ID length of tubing from Amazon. The 1/16 ID size is a bit concerning...it may take forever. For me, I'm using it to test a new additive coming to the market. So far, I'm very pleased. My lifter tick has disappeared and my gas mileage has taken a big jump. I'll let you know if the issue was simply the size of the tube to get all the way to the pan.

 

[mikeru82]

I have a 2017 with the Hemi, and yes, the tube supplied with my MityVac 3700 is too large to make it all the way to the pan. The smallest supplied hose is 1/4"OD / 1/8ID. I am 'hoping' there is not a baffle preventing access to the pan. I've ordered an 1/8 OD by 1/16 ID length of tubing from Amazon. The 1/16 ID size is a bit concerning...it may take forever. For me, I'm using it to test a new additive coming to the market. So far, I'm very pleased. My lifter tick has disappeared and my gas mileage has taken a big jump. I'll let you know if the issue was simply the size of the tube to get all the way to the pan.

I'm more interested in hearing more about this snake oil you're testing.