vinnrox250
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Similar situation, not trying to hijack thread, but looking for same info as OP. Long time lurker here! I will be in the market at the end of the year and I am looking at a Limited Black Appearance with 33 gall. tank, 3.92 gears and Level 1 Equip Group, (hopefully the new uconnect 5), so loaded.. I am not a die-hard brand person, I have had many Ford's and 2 Ram 2500's cummins. The '16 Laramie was tons of weird hiccups; leaks, weak AC, thunk in rear end, so got out of it quick, and with no kick in the pants. Currently in an *knock on wood* problem-free '18 Limited Tungsten and love the truck. But looking at possibly downsizing some, maybe, sold the fifth wheel. But thinking I may keep longer due to some quality control issues/concerns on the 1500's.
My couple of concerns are:
1. I am torn on the E-Torque, it seems nice, but new systems like that concern me, and it doesn't seem like you get that much better fuel economy. And it turns out you can get the 2020's with just a 5.7 Hemi again, (woohoo) according to their build feature on their site. Hopefully this will be the same for the 2021's. Also I HATE the start-stop on my Grand Cherokee High Altitude so I expect I will hate it here too.
2. Fuel Economy seems poor for these trucks, I get it's a truck, I get it's a V8, but all the forums I have read are reporting numbers from 9-16 mpg's city. Quite a variance. My 3/4 Cummins does better than that!
3. The Water Leaks! I know there is the one in the front that leaks to drivers floor board, and the back glass has supposedly been fixed for the 2020's on. I feel like with the amount of complaints on this FCA needs to get the fix in place and fix the weld issues. Hoping they do so, but the 2020's are still plagued by it so not holding my breathe.
4. Sub-Par AC. I had this issue in my 16 2500 Laramie, and it was awful, especially in Texas on a 100 degree day! My 18 is much better!! Ford I think has the AC game down, my old Super Duty and Explorer was frigid and cooled the cab fast. This seems somewhat widespread on the 1500's and FCA, well the dealers, are saying it work's as designed. Somewhat concerned. I understand coldness is subjective to everyone, but I feel like the cab should be able to cool under the 54-60 degrees coming out of the vents I have been seeing.
I absolutely love the Rams. I was dead set on an 18 Platinum Super Duty, but the fit and finish in the Ford's are sub-par compared to these Ram's I am so happy I got my Limited Tungsten. Once I saw it, I was like Platinum who? Lol! I really want the Limited 1500, but I don't want to buy into something that has known issues, with no resolution in sight (ac and front leak seems hit & miss on repairs). I know every car is plagued by issues, but if I can dodge the nightmare that is the Ram dealers and these pretty significant issues I would like to. From what I have seen on here, mostly everyone, even with the issues, still loves their trucks. I see why!
Everyone is trying to push me Ford, I have 2 family members that work for them, so warranty work, mainly out of warranty work, and cost of vehicle I can get a good deal, but it is boring.
Sorry for the long post. Like I said, I have read this forum extensively and learned so much, and despite the issues, I still think I am leaning 1500 over the boring Ford or even keeping my 2500. And I don't think the 2021 F150 will be comparable to the Ram. Thanks for reading my ramble!
My couple of concerns are:
1. I am torn on the E-Torque, it seems nice, but new systems like that concern me, and it doesn't seem like you get that much better fuel economy. And it turns out you can get the 2020's with just a 5.7 Hemi again, (woohoo) according to their build feature on their site. Hopefully this will be the same for the 2021's. Also I HATE the start-stop on my Grand Cherokee High Altitude so I expect I will hate it here too.
2. Fuel Economy seems poor for these trucks, I get it's a truck, I get it's a V8, but all the forums I have read are reporting numbers from 9-16 mpg's city. Quite a variance. My 3/4 Cummins does better than that!
3. The Water Leaks! I know there is the one in the front that leaks to drivers floor board, and the back glass has supposedly been fixed for the 2020's on. I feel like with the amount of complaints on this FCA needs to get the fix in place and fix the weld issues. Hoping they do so, but the 2020's are still plagued by it so not holding my breathe.
4. Sub-Par AC. I had this issue in my 16 2500 Laramie, and it was awful, especially in Texas on a 100 degree day! My 18 is much better!! Ford I think has the AC game down, my old Super Duty and Explorer was frigid and cooled the cab fast. This seems somewhat widespread on the 1500's and FCA, well the dealers, are saying it work's as designed. Somewhat concerned. I understand coldness is subjective to everyone, but I feel like the cab should be able to cool under the 54-60 degrees coming out of the vents I have been seeing.
I absolutely love the Rams. I was dead set on an 18 Platinum Super Duty, but the fit and finish in the Ford's are sub-par compared to these Ram's I am so happy I got my Limited Tungsten. Once I saw it, I was like Platinum who? Lol! I really want the Limited 1500, but I don't want to buy into something that has known issues, with no resolution in sight (ac and front leak seems hit & miss on repairs). I know every car is plagued by issues, but if I can dodge the nightmare that is the Ram dealers and these pretty significant issues I would like to. From what I have seen on here, mostly everyone, even with the issues, still loves their trucks. I see why!
Everyone is trying to push me Ford, I have 2 family members that work for them, so warranty work, mainly out of warranty work, and cost of vehicle I can get a good deal, but it is boring.
Sorry for the long post. Like I said, I have read this forum extensively and learned so much, and despite the issues, I still think I am leaning 1500 over the boring Ford or even keeping my 2500. And I don't think the 2021 F150 will be comparable to the Ram. Thanks for reading my ramble!
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