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Great article. Kind of sums up the way I feel about pushing a smaller engine harder to make it perform like a larger engine. I still believe in the age old axiom that there's no replacement for displacement. At least over the long term.What a absolute beauty! I was just reading this yahoo thread on that.
Stellantis’ Hurricane Twin-Turbo Inline-6 Engine Is A Ticking Time Bomb
It’s here just in time to replace the Hemi V8!www.yahoo.com
That’s gross. That makes me glad I’m not turning wrenches as a career anymore. Stuff like that is why customers get upset when you tell them it calls for nine hours to R&R a valve cover gasket.Hopefully it still looks as clean as these pics in the engine bay and not like the rats nest in the Bronco
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Hahaha...good one. And diesel engines are a completely different animal.
A man after my own heart. That reminds me of when I was big into mustangs and was at the war on wheels at Maryland international Raceway in the early 2000s. A daily driver Honda Civic with a 1.5 turbo was running low 10’s and the guy claimed ~30mpg when daily driving. My Mustang was naturally aspirated and was in the low 12’s, all while getting single digit mpg on pump fuel. That was the moment in time that completely changed my thinking about forced induction.
Fair enough. Agree to disagree on that. We weren't talking about engines with the same displacement though.
Problem there was the Mustang probably had 1000 lbs on the Civic. Also that 1.5 turbo was ready to self detonate at any moment
Haven't read the next two pages of replies, but in case this hasn't been mentioned. air to air is a spaghetti bowl with hot pipes feeding the charge air cooler then trying to route the cold pipe back to the intake. Also, shorter runners means much less lag.
Really can’t argue with that at all about the civic since I don’t know how the engine was built. I went down a rabbit hole after that and ended up building Honda and Mitsubishi turbo engines for years. Mine were reliable after I learned the quirks of those engines under high boost levels, but I can’t speak about anybody else’s. My early building and tuning days were pretty rough though.
It is crazy how many people are assuming that this engine will have the same weak points as a completely unrelated motor! Its like assuming Hemi V8's are junk because audi had issues with their 4.2.... I love my Hemi, but we should be celebrating that we have a 400+ HP new gas motor when many automakers are defunding their ICE programs. Assuming we have gas motors for the next 15 years, this will likely be one of the best available for many years. Lots of power, lots of torque, should be smooth and relatively efficient. Properly engineered small displacement motors can make a ton of reliable HP even if they are allegedly more complex than a pushrod V8.
No, we weren't. We were specifically talking about displacement vs forced induction. You decided to inject your own comments comparing engines of the same displacement. But that is most certainly not what we were comparing. The engine being discussed in this thread is a smaller displacement FI engine. Which is a smaller displacement than any Hemi engine it will reportedly replace.
That was probably my fault. I lost my train of thought and went into non-relevant territory.
What a absolute beauty! I was just reading this yahoo thread on that.
Stellantis’ Hurricane Twin-Turbo Inline-6 Engine Is A Ticking Time Bomb
It’s here just in time to replace the Hemi V8!
