Input on AT tires

[wegasque]

Nice. I prefer something a bit more aggressive

I do too. I just put on Cooper Rugged Treks.

 

[1923bob]

I do too. I just put on Cooper Rugged Treks.

Looking good.

 

[DEG]

I'm a slow learner and, except for my last 2 trucks, I would switch to AT tires every time I wore out my factory tires. Took me a while to figure out the only thing AT tires gave me was a cut in fuel economy of about 2 MPG and a worse ride quality.

 

[Gren71]

I'm a slow learner and, except for my last 2 trucks, I would switch to AT tires every time I wore out my factory tires. Took me a while to figure out the only thing AT tires gave me was a cut in fuel economy of about 2 MPG and a worse ride quality.

I lived the same experience with Jeeps over the years

 

[Blackdog.Tx]

I have great performance with Toyo OC AT3 (3 peak) for my current application: FL wet weather, slimy boat ramps, sand... I tow every weekend and haul house stuff. So my mpg runs 11 pmg mostly under load. I get ~15 mpg on long trips not towing, but usually loaded up. I like the wet traction but can't compare to others mentioned here. Personally mine don't spin on wet pavement and pulls boat off slimy ramps with no spin, all 4 tires in slime.

305/45R22 XL - 2020 Limited 4x4, 5.7Hemi, 3.92

The XL is light. I would expect better mpg unloaded. OCAT are 3 peak, may be option for you. I had 5 Rams prior with factory tires for work trucks (sales rep) and ran 50,000 miles a year highway miles. I recall 16 mpg with 3.92; 17mpg with 3.21 unloaded... I also spent a lot of time in traffic court...

I had Nitto Ridge grapplers, that performed well in TX & OK mud. Obviousy more aggressive than Grapplers.

OC AT3 has better wet traction all around over Ridge Grapplers. Rg's spin on wet pavement with little gas. At3s grip.

I ran OC AT2 on my old F150... they spun on wet pavement. AT3s seem to be big improvement. The AT2s did well in mud, but not as good as Ridge Graps.

That said, Toyos aren't cheap. You may find more economical solutiin for your application.

 

[vinnieloo]

I'm a slow learner and, except for my last 2 trucks, I would switch to AT tires every time I wore out my factory tires. Took me a while to figure out the only thing AT tires gave me was a cut in fuel economy of about 2 MPG and a worse ride quality.

I lived the same experience with Jeeps over the years

From what I'm seeing online if i don't need the off road traction the off-road AT tires aren't really a good fit for me.
I'm trying to maintain on-road traction and add the 3PMSF for better winter traction. Any suggestions for that?

 

[Gren71]

From what I'm seeing online if i don't need the off road traction the off-road AT tires aren't really a good fit for me.
I'm trying to maintain on-road traction and add the 3PMSF for better winter traction. Any suggestions for that?

The firestone destination at are a good pick, also yokohama geolanader g015

 

[theblet]

I do too. I just put on Cooper Rugged Treks.

I like those

 

[theblet]

I'm a slow learner and, except for my last 2 trucks, I would switch to AT tires every time I wore out my factory tires. Took me a while to figure out the only thing AT tires gave me was a cut in fuel economy of about 2 MPG and a worse ride quality.

I didn’t really lose any with mine, but I made sure to get STD load range.

 

[DEG]

I didn’t really lose any with mine, but I made sure to get STD load range.

I don't believe this. The more aggressive thread alone will cost you fuel economy.

"In fact, 35-50 percent of the rolling resistance can be attributed to the treads. The shallower the tread pattern, the more fuel-efficient the tires are as there is less resistance."

 

[Gren71]

I don't believe this. The more aggressive thread alone will cost you fuel economy.

"In fact, 35-50 percent of the rolling resistance can be attributed to the treads. The shallower the tread pattern, the more fuel-efficient the tires are as there is less resistance."

Rolling resistance is a huge factor for mpg in tires. Thats part of why HT tires get better mileage. At tires are more purpose built. But this is why i keep mentioning the firestones and geolanders, they have a lower rolling resistance than a lot of at tires.

 

[rick619]

Rolling resistance is a huge factor for mpg in tires. Thats part of why HT tires get better mileage. At tires are more purpose built. But this is why i keep mentioning the firestones and geolanders, they have a lower rolling resistance than a lot of at tires.

I definitely struggle with this decision. Prefer the look of the more aggressive AT, but know I don't need them. At least I have a pretty short commute. I've had my truck since April and only have 5000 miles so far. Plus I have been offroading for many years and don't mind a noisy tire. Especially since my hearing is pretty poor.

 

[vinnieloo]

I'm struggling too. There are so many choices. Maybe they are all about the same or maybe I'm just looking for a unicorn.

 

[1923bob]

I definitely struggle with this decision. Prefer the look of the more aggressive AT, but know I don't need them. At least I have a pretty short commute. I've had my truck since April and only have 5000 miles so far. Plus I have been offroading for many years and don't mind a noisy tire. Especially since my hearing is pretty poor.

Talk about low miles our 2021 has 13,239 miles must have been the two trips to Denver.

 

[DEG]

Rolling resistance is a huge factor for mpg in tires. Thats part of why HT tires get better mileage. At tires are more purpose built. But this is why i keep mentioning the firestones and geolanders, they have a lower rolling resistance than a lot of at tires.

Not sure why you responded to me since all you did is say exactly what I said. My "I don't believe this" comment was directed toward the claim I quoted that someone got the same milage from an AT tire as they did a HT tire.

 

[Gren71]

Not sure why you responded to me since all you did is say exactly what I said. My "I don't believe this" comment was directed toward the claim I quoted that someone got the same milage from an AT tire as they did a HT tire.

Co signing? Or just adding more value to your one off comment so perhaps a member doesn’t discount the point since its only from one member? It was valuable info and deserved a bump. The real question here is why it bothered you enough to even address it…odd.

 

[CalvinC]

I'm struggling too. There are so many choices. Maybe they are all about the same or maybe I'm just looking for a unicorn.

AT is definitely one of the more crowded categories of tire.

Helps to start with what you prioritize - weight, appearance, size options, brand, snow performance, highway performance, etc.

Figure out what's important to you, shortlist a few options using Tirerack.com scores and reviews. Lots of ways an AT can be "Good" but not ideal.

E.g. for me Priority #1 is light weight, then steering/handling, then snow traction, then off road capability, appearance and last price.

 

[vinnieloo]

AT is definitely one of the more crowded categories of tire.

Helps to start with what you prioritize - weight, appearance, size options, brand, snow performance, highway performance, etc.

Figure out what's important to you, shortlist a few options using Tirerack.com scores and reviews. Lots of ways an AT can be "Good" but not ideal.

E.g. for me Priority #1 is light weight, then steering/handling, then snow traction, then off road capability, appearance and last price.

Great advice. I would actually put my priorities in the same order as you. Mileage, on road dry/wet and snow are the biggest for me.
What are you running?

 

[CalvinC]

Great advice. I would actually put my priorities in the same order as you. Mileage, on road dry/wet and snow are the biggest for me.
What are you running?

I’m running a 295/75r18 so that pretty much puts me in the E range/ LT tire class. Which is why weight was pretty important.

I chose the Bridgestone Dueler Revo3 because it was about the lightest option in that size AND had great all around reviews.
The runner up was the Firestone Destination XT.

About 20k miles in and I am very pleased. Technically not 3msf rated but it was rated tips in snow by Tirerack nonetheless. After 2 Colorado winters, including a trek over the mountains in one of the worst blizzards this CO native has ever seen, these are the best winter ATs I’ve run. Plenty of off-road chops for messy fall elk hunting trails and wooded trails, but not loud or fatiguing on the longer highway trips.

For comparison that includes the Goodyear Duratrac, BFG KO2, and Yokohama Geolander G018. The Goodyear and KO2 were monsters off-road and in deep powder but lacked the sharp road manners that I desired, which I did get from the Yokos. If the Yokos weren’t so darn heavy I might be running them today, as they’re a good bit cheaper than the Bridgestones.

 

[DEG]

Great advice. I would actually put my priorities in the same order as you. Mileage, on road dry/wet and snow are the biggest for me.
What are you running?

Based on your priorities you should run a highway tire most of the year and switch to a snow and ice tire for winter. AT tires really don't make a better snow tire than a highway tread. Either tread design can be good or bad in the snow. Snow tires are made from a softer rubber compound that remains more pliable during cold weather. Most people don't run snow tires year round because their pliability in cold weather causes them to wear faster when it's hot.