HK radio and door speaker upgrade

[Kendal]

Hello everyone , this has been written about before,however, for more clarification replacing the front door speakers one can use the CDT audio 6x9 cl69s on the front door because it’s a mid and base speaker . For the rear doors I believe you need a coax speaker because factory use is also coax ….a tweeter ? I have read where some people have used the cl69s on all 4 doors ….. which would be different than the factory design….Is that my best option ?

 

[Scap]

I just did mine recently. Front and rear 6x9 on the HK system are the same speaker.
CDT CL69-S 4 ohm are what you want for all four doors.

 

[Kendal]

I just did mine recently. Front and rear 6x9 on the HK system are the same speaker.
CDT CL69-S 4 ohm are what you want for all four doors.

Yes I read the thread and somebody posted that the back speaker was a coax …….thanks very much for your reply…….also did you use the metro adapter 72-6514 to keep polarity reversed for the new speaker …..is it plug and play from CDT ………thanks again

 

[ekaz]

Yes I read the thread and somebody posted that the back speaker was a coax …….thanks very much for your reply…….also did you use the metro adapter 72-6514 to keep polarity reversed for the new speaker …..is it plug and play from CDT ………thanks again

I *think* the polarity on the metra adapter if reversed, you might want to double check before connecting

 

[Scap]

Yes I read the thread and somebody posted that the back speaker was a coax …….thanks very much for your reply…….also did you use the metro adapter 72-6514 to keep polarity reversed for the new speaker …..is it plug and play from CDT ………thanks again

I did use the 6514 Metra adapters. Doing so it is truly plug and play.
I tried reversing polarity to +/+ and -/-, but I didn't like it in my truck. After one 70 mile round trip to work and back, I went back to the polarity FCA elected to use and hooked my ANC mics back up. It sounds really good. I have bass set at -2 and it still hits hard. I could likely go more negative and still be happy.

 

[Kendal]

I did use the 6514 Metra adapters. Doing so it is truly plug and play.
I tried reversing polarity to +/+ and -/-, but I didn't like it in my truck. After one 70 mile round trip to work and back, I went back to the polarity FCA elected to use and hooked my ANC mics back up. It sounds really good. I have bass set at -2 and it still hits hard. I could likely go more negative and still be happy.

Thank you ….also do you use Sirius radio at this time and have you considered pandora or any other option that would have less compression and more fidelity? Regarding the HK system have to say the Alpine system in my 2015 sounded better in all aspects …..on the HK its as if not much sound comes from the door speakers but more from the front dash

 

[Scap]

Thank you ….also do you use Sirius radio at this time and have you considered pandora or any other option that would have less compression and more fidelity? Regarding the HK system have to say the Alpine system in my 2015 sounded better in all aspects …..on the HK its as if not much sound comes from the door speakers but more from the front dash

I use Pandora exclusively.
Never used satellite radio before, so no idea how it sounds.

 

[Kendal]

I use Pandora exclusively.
Never used satellite radio before, so no idea how it sounds.

On pandora is it compressed or does it have higher bit rate like a CD?

 

[Scap]

On pandora is it compressed or does it have higher bit rate like a CD?

A quick internet search says its 192kbps.

 

[Kendal]

Interesting at 192 Kbps vs Sirius at 24 to 48 Kbps is a huge difference.....

 

[Scap]

Interesting at 192 Kbps vs Sirius at 24 to 48 Kbps is a huge difference.....

Apparently Spotify is in the 300's

 

[german88]

Clearing up a few facts for this thread:
All the factory 6X9's are the same type of driver which is a mid bass driver only and not coaxial.
Ram engineers decided to reverse polarity which puts the speaker "out of phase" on all 4 6X9's. This was obviously in an attempt to create a desired sound profile. Metra adaptors are also "out of phase" which requires the user to cut and solder to achieve "in phase" . Scap seems to have had issues with his ANC and some undesirable noise issues with the speakers in phase. First I've heard of this as this mod was detailed at length in a few other places here and all were installed "in phase" without issue. Could be a programming update thing...

 

[Kendal]

Clearing up a few facts for this thread:
All the factory 6X9's are the same type of driver which is a mid bass driver only and not coaxial.
Ram engineers decided to reverse polarity which puts the speaker "out of phase" on all 4 6X9's. This was obviously in an attempt to create a desired sound profile. Metra adaptors are also "out of phase" which requires the user to cut and solder to achieve "in phase" . Scap seems to have had issues with his ANC and some undesirable noise issues with the speakers in phase. First I've heard of this as this mod was detailed at length in a few other places here and all were installed "in phase" without issue. Could be a programming update thing..question

 

[Kendal]

Then are the speakers with the adapter wired out of phase or in phase?

 

[Scap]

Then are the speakers with the adapter wired out of phase or in phase?

6514 maintains factory phasing. (+/-, +/-)
6515 reverses factory phasing. (+/+, -/-)

 

[german88]

This might make more sense...

6514 out of phase +/-, +/-)
6515 in phase (+/+, -/-)

 

[Scap]

It could be confusing to those that haven't done a speaker swap yet. I know it was making my brain hurt when trying to align what was being said on the forum and then looking at the factory wiring diagram.

seems some of us are looking at it from the factory perspective and others from a speaker perspective. It all shakes out the same, but anyone approaching this task should pick a start and follow through from that start. I found I was looking at both ends as a starting point and trying to meet in the middle. That really sucked....lol

 

[Kendal]

So to summarize people used adapter 65-14 which is out of phase per factory design….and out of phase is the correct way to wire speakers which enables the best sound as the factory intended……thanks just want to be clear

 

[Kendal]

Just talked to cruthfield audio the factory 6x9 speakers are 2 ohm the cl69 s are 4 ohm which will decrease volume by half …….any thoughts

 

[UnloosedChewtoy]

Just talked to cruthfield audio the factory 6x9 speakers are 2 ohm the cl69 s are 4 ohm which will decrease volume by half …….any thoughts

The Alpine system has 2 ohm speakers, I believe, but the HK has 4 ohms. I’ve only had the rear headliner speakers out so far myself on my HK system, and they were just under 4 ohm.