Headers Question

[BIGDCOBIA]

question regarding adding long tube headers. The only change so far I have done with my exhaust is adding a magnaflow muffler. I have installed a Superchip programmer, pedal commander and a vararam. I know I will upgrade to a diablo custom tune once I have the $$ but adding the headers should not cause any negative issues correct? Should just be plug and play for now?
Thoughts? ( I know a custom tune is best thing once headers on). Last question do the headers really make that much of a difference as they say?

Thanks

 

[Nails]

You will lose some lower end. And powertrain warranty if that matters. Other then that, plug and play

 

[LaxDfns15]

No experience with Ram, but with my Titan it ran rich until I tuned it. Not a huge deal as long as you're not stressing it too much, but I'd suggest a tune as quickly as possible. I picked up roughly 50hp at the wheels on my Titan with headers, full 3" exhaust, and high-flow cats. I know the Ram's different, but that's been my experience.

Like @Nails said, warranty's basically gone after you go headers because it's so hard to pinpoint if they don't actually cause the problem.

 

[Nails]

^^^^ not only that. As simple as Factory emissions components (cats) have been removed. That’s a free be for fca to deny.

 

[BIGDCOBIA]

Even if the headers come with cats?

 

[Rplante3108]

Long tube headers you will need a tune to run them. Shorties you do not. So, if you are going to do the tune, get that first and then the long tube. If you don't, it will throw a code after install

 

[Nails]

Even if the headers come with cats?

Yes, it’s not oem

 

[Ellisstrong]

Long tube headers you will need a tune to run them. Shorties you do not. So, if you are going to do the tune, get that first and then the long tube. If you don't, it will throw a code after install

I talked to someone who is running ARH longtubes with high flow cats without a tune

 

[LaxDfns15]

I talked to someone who is running ARH longtubes with high flow cats without a tune

Just because you CAN doesn't mean you should. You're changing a big part of the engine/exhaust system.

 

[Ellisstrong]

Just because you CAN doesn't mean you should. You're changing a big part of the engine/exhaust system.

He said you would need a tune to run them. I was just stating the fact that you don’t necessarily NEED a tune to run them... I don’t have them but I am unlocked and tuned and would get a tune specifically for them if I added them as well...

 

[Sv250]

Headers are a pain. Manifold bolts are hard to get out and prone to breaking in the head. Once installed exhaust leaks are common. Header bolts back out, collectors dont seal worth a dam.

All of that for roughly 20hp. If you go with a cam, tune and headers it would be worth it. 75hp or so.

As mentioned your warranty is done and may fail emissions test when getting your inspection tag.

 

[Rplante3108]

Sorry, to run them correctly it would be best to have a tune for them as you do not need one for the shorties ; ) my fault.

 

[Orion10182011]

Long tube headers often move the stock O2 sensor location farther away downstream. IDK about Mopar but many ECM's don't like that one bit.

My suggestion would be to stick with shorty headers if you don't want to open that can of worms.