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[kymts]

Thanks again. If my shopping and the weather work out then I should have some photos by Wednesday. May try some of Turtle Wax's newer products like Ice or Flex if I can find it.

 

[Cajun_]

Thanks again. If my shopping and the weather work out then I should have some photos by Wednesday. May try some of Turtle Wax's newer products like Ice or Flex if I can find it.

Check out their hybrid solutions line. Will work better with the newer paint.

 

[Cajun_]

I should clarify what I meant earlier when it comes to Decon sprays. Normally you would use a clay lube or normal car wash with a clay bar. HOWEVER, using a liquid clay bar/ iron remover/ ceramic prep/ paint decontamination spray ( these are all basically the same thing) will still lube the clay bar and make the the process so much easier and faster at the cost of normally smelling like sulfur. Clark bars also normally have a "grit". Avoid the heavy grit bars. A fine would be ideal. These may also be labeled light or finishing.

Hope this all helps. Actual clay works better than the clay towels by a mile.

 

[Shannonwin]

lots of youtube videos out there to help any questions . i personally like adams polish's products

 

[kymts]

I should clarify what I meant earlier when it comes to Decon sprays. Normally you would use a clay lube or normal car wash with a clay bar. HOWEVER, using a liquid clay bar/ iron remover/ ceramic prep/ paint decontamination spray ( these are all basically the same thing) will still lube the clay bar and make the the process so much easier and faster at the cost of normally smelling like sulfur. Clark bars also normally have a "grit". Avoid the heavy grit bars. A fine would be ideal. These may also be labeled light or finishing.

Hope this all helps. Actual clay works better than the clay towels by a mile.

I picked up a clay kit with spray. Mequires? The clay bars are white and feel more like play-dough than clay. Also got Turtle-wax seal &shine, Ice wax, and Ceramic hybrid.
I washed and clayed the Ram yesterday and that went smoothly. There was very little contamination. The paint was smooth beaded well and did not feel catchy using the plastic bag trick after the wash. The most difficult thing was getting the truck DRY! Water just kept on dribbling down from trim after I had went over it several times. Anyways I finished up with the Ice wax but plan to put a couple of coats of the ceramic or one seal & shine then ceramic today. Attached pics from this morning. Footnote: I was going to get the Turtle-wax Pro Graphine Flex as it says that it is more forgiving to apply but no one had it in stock.

 

[Cajun_]

I picked up a clay kit with spray. Mequires? The clay bars are white and feel more like play-dough than clay. Also got Turtle-wax seal &shine, Ice wax, and Ceramic hybrid.
I washed and clayed the Ram yesterday and that went smoothly. There was very little contamination. The paint was smooth beaded well and did not feel catchy using the plastic bag trick after the wash. The most difficult thing was getting the truck DRY! Water just kept on dribbling down from trim after I had went over it several times. Anyways I finished up with the Ice wax but plan to put a couple of coats of the ceramic or one seal & shine then ceramic today. Attached pics from this morning.View attachment 115256View attachment 115257View attachment 115258

You can't use wax products and ceramic products with each other. Wait a month. Give it another clay and just put the ceramic. The truck will dry alot easier once it's done. I suggest using a leaf blower over all the cracks and tricky bits before going after it with a towel.

 

[kymts]

You can't use wax products and ceramic products with each other. Wait a month. Give it another clay and just put the ceramic. The truck will dry a lot easier once it's done. I suggest using a leaf blower over all the cracks and tricky bits before going after it with a towel.

I have a Sthil leaf blower but the engine 2-stroke exhaust is mixed with the blowing air. I will use the air compressor next time for drying. Thanks.

 

[FirstTimeRamDriver]

If you really want to be anal…. Clay bar leaves micro marring and any decent retailer would do a one stage paint correction after clay bar. And that’s how you start getting into the rabbit hole

 

[Dookie]

Amazon.com

I picked this up and use a detail spray for lube and have used it a handful of times with great results. It says for up to 20 vehicles, you could never get that much life out of a real clay bar, or at least I wouldn't. Real clay gets so dirty so fast, It's usually a 1-time use for me. Then follow it up with Malco Cherry Flash. Use this once and you will be a fan for life. Not the longest-lasting out there, but is the easiest BY FAR to apply and remove with very low effort.

 

[kymts]

Thanks. I may try the clay substitute. If you want to continue using the Malco Cherry Flash then you might want to load up on it as the DuPont Zonyl* was supposedly discontinued in 2014 due to (sigh) EPA "concerns" . I saw some Malco products on shelves yesterday but did not notice if Cherry Flash was one of the products offered. I will keep an eye out for it my next trip in.
Now I see it is available on-line. Can Cherry Flash be used on a partially wet surface?

 

[Dookie]

No idea, I've only used it on dry surfaces. I did use a pretty neat product not long ago by Aerolon called Tech Shine. I added it to any and all surfaces during washing, tires, glass, plastics, bumper etc etc, any surface on the vehicle. It worked really well and is still protecting my tires well and beads water to this day from about 6 months ago used.

 

[Cajun_]

Can't really use any of the above if you plan on using the graphing coating

 

[kymts]

No idea, I've only used it on dry surfaces. I did use a pretty neat product not long ago by Aerolon called Tech Shine. I added it to any and all surfaces during washing, tires, glass, plastics, bumper etc etc, any surface on the vehicle. It worked really well and is still protecting my tires well and beads water to this day from about 6 months ago used.
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Wow! I will have to try this out!

 

[kymts]

Can't really use any of the above if you plan on using the graphing coating

Where are you getting this info? Just asking because a product specialist with turtle-wax says that all of their exterior products are compatible with the caveat that the ceramic products must cure at least one day before using a dissimilar product. Not saying that you are wrong and the T-W people are right but I just want to know .

 

[Cajun_]

Where are you getting this info? Just asking because a product specialist with turtle-wax says that all of their exterior products are compatible with the caveat that the ceramic products must cure at least one day before using a dissimilar product. Not saying that you are wrong and the T-W people are right but I just want to know .

Graphine and sio2 coatings need to go down on bare paint to be applied correctly. They will also reject waxes once applied. If you try to put down the graphine on top of anything you will just wipe it off without actually putting any of the graphine down onto the paint. While these spays are significantly easier to apply they still work the same as the high end ceramic coating I have on my truck. You just get a few months out of spray bottle instead of 10 years from mine.

 

[ferraiolo1]

Where are you getting this info? Just asking because a product specialist with turtle-wax says that all of their exterior products are compatible with the caveat that the ceramic products must cure at least one day before using a dissimilar product. Not saying that you are wrong and the T-W people are right but I just want to know .

Lots of info on the web about this. Of course they say that because they still want to sell their product. But the entire point of a good ceramic coat is that you never have to wax your vehicle.

After ceramic coating the only thing you need to use is a detailing spray.


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[Cajun_]

Lots of info on the web about this. Of course they say that because they still want to sell their product. But the entire point of a good ceramic coat is that you never have to wax your vehicle.

After ceramic coating the only thing you need to use is a detailing spray.


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Or continue applying the graphine coating until it's as thick as a pro coating.