AT tire with low road noise.

[H2OMAN]

Most AT's are pretty quiet. None of them really have enough tread to be that loud. MT's are an issue if noise bothers you.

 

[Ready Go]

I had yokohama G015s on my gladiator and was less than impressed with their performance is rain. They ate snow / mud / sand / dry with ease…but i felt like they slipped a lot with minimal acceleration in rain.

Before i traded in my JT i had
Firestone Destination AT2s on and ws BLOWN AWAY. Phenomenal gas mileage due to the continuous central rib, quiet at all times, and handles all the terrain types I could throw at them.

I currently have michelline defender ltx ms2s on my truck and find my self wishing i got another set of the firestones.

Any chance of further elaboration?

I'm looking at the Firestone Destination AT2 vs the Michelin Defender LTX M/S2..probably 275/60R20 on Fuel Variant wheels, so weight is close to OEM with either tire.

My heart wants the Firestones, but my brain says Michelins.

I'm all country driving, blacktop roads at 55mph or less.

We haven't had tons of snow to really justify my point for the Firestones being 3Peak rated, but safety is a good plus.

The OEM Bridgestone Duelers are actually quiet & comfortable..but the ratings on Tire Rack (and often here) are horrible..almost anything would rate better. If the Firestones were equal to OEM Bridgestones, I'd be cool with them. I'm pretty sure the Michelins surpass the Bridgestones.

You've used both, so thought I'd ask for more insight..Thanks in advance!!

 

[Biga]

Much thanks for the TR Review YT video!

Unfortunately, I am NO further ahead..as it was basically ckear as mud in giving me a clear winner (mostly because I want a perfect tire for everything..and there is no such thing!)

Truth be told, the OEM Bridgestone Dueler H/L really is good (IMO) for my daily driving (quiet, smooth, controlled, decent mpg, decent in light rain & snow)..but I want a 275/60R20 (would love bigger & badder) to get a bit taller tire, but with similar overall weight.

What I'm trying to talk myself into pulling the trigger on is....

Fuel Variant 20x9-01mm (Matte Gunmetal) wheels with Firestone Destination AT2 275/60R20 tires which would be 33" tall (versus 31.9") for an extra 0.55" sidewall (to maybe get a little extra cushion & comfort). This combo is exactly the same overall weight as OEM (actually a half pound lighter!).

My truck is almost all on-road..so maybe the Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 is the smartest thing..and I imagine a step up from the OEM Bridgestone Duelers..but the Firestone Destination AT2 looks like what a truck should have.

The 275/60 Michelin package would be 3lbs lighter than OEM.
I could even move up to a 275/65 Michelin to be 34.1" tall and it would only be 0.5-1.0lb heavier than OEM..but a taller Michelin isn't gonna look any tougher than OEM.

Thoughts??

yea, it's tough to find somethning that isn't going to have some compromises. I've had a couple sets of the Michelin's on other trucks and they've always been great tires, wish Michelin would do something to at least make them look a little more aggressive on the sidewalls. I've heard good things about the Firestone's but don't have any personal experience with them but would defiantly be on my list. I would get the Continental Terrain contact but they don't have the best rating on snow/ice.

 

[Gren71]

Any chance of further elaboration?

I'm looking at the Firestone Destination AT2 vs the Michelin Defender LTX M/S2..probably 275/60R20 on Fuel Variant wheels, so weight is close to OEM with either tire.

My heart wants the Firestones, but my brain says Michelins.

I'm all country driving, blacktop roads at 55mph or less.

We haven't had tons of snow to really justify my point for the Firestones being 3Peak rated, but safety is a good plus.

The OEM Bridgestone Duelers are actually quiet & comfortable..but the ratings on Tire Rack (and often here) are horrible..almost anything would rate better. If the Firestones were equal to OEM Bridgestones, I'd be cool with them. I'm pretty sure the Michelins surpass the Bridgestones.

You've used both, so thought I'd ask for more insight..Thanks in advance!!

$ for $ i think the michelins will be the better buy. They have more tread life and a better warranty. Downside…they definitely don’t look as cool. If mpg isnt your PRIMARY concern…the Firestones look the part (IMO) and will still give a quiet ride and great mpg.

Both tires did everything ive asked them to do. They BOTH pulled my camper easily..handles beach sand with ease, handled snow like it didn’t exist…and chewed through fresh rain on a highway beautifully.

Firestone + / - in 116T
+ looks great
+ good mpg
+ handles all terrain easily
+ less expensive than others
+ none existent road noise
- less warranty
- less tread life
- lower max cold PSI (towing problem)

Michelins + / - in 116T
+ amazing tread life
+ zero road noise
+ good mpg
+ XL rating (better for towing)
+ great warranty
- look VERY bland
- more expensive

Ill preface my noice assertion with the fact that I got GOT a handful of times in Iraq and my hearing isnt the best. But my wife (who has perfect hearing) agrees with me. Ill also add ive ONLY had both brands in 17in or 18 rims…so im not sure if the ride quality changes with 20in wheels since the side walls are smaller.

I cant make the choice for ya but at the end of the day i chose the Michelins for my truck and they’ve been fantastic. I pull my camper a lot 9 months out of the year so the xl rating and better grade with heat was a selling point for me.

Firesatones on left / michelins on right
Info is for 18in wheels.

 

[Ready Go]

yea, it's tough to find somethning that isn't going to have some compromises. I've had a couple sets of the Michelin's on other trucks and they've always been great tires, wish Michelin would do something to at least make them look a little more aggressive on the sidewalls. I've heard good things about the Firestone's but don't have any personal experience with them but would defiantly be on my list. I would get the Continental Terrain contact but they don't have the best rating on snow/ice.

I agree with your points, thanks much.

 

[Ready Go]

$ for $ i think the michelins will be the better buy. They have more tread life and a better warranty. Downside…they definitely don’t look as cool. If mpg isnt your PRIMARY concern…the Firestones look the part (IMO) and will still give a quiet ride and great mpg.

Both tires did everything ive asked them to do. They BOTH pulled my camper easily..handles beach sand with ease, handled snow like it didn’t exist…and chewed through fresh rain on a highway beautifully.

Firestone + / - in 116T
+ looks great
+ good mpg
+ handles all terrain easily
+ less expensive than others
+ none existent road noise
- less warranty
- less tread life
- lower max cold PSI (towing problem)

Michelins + / - in 116T
+ amazing tread life
+ zero road noise
+ good mpg
+ XL rating (better for towing)
+ great warranty
- look VERY bland
- more expensive

Ill preface my noice assertion with the fact that I got GOT a handful of times in Iraq and my hearing isnt the best. But my wife (who has perfect hearing) agrees with me. Ill also add ive ONLY had both brands in 17in or 18 rims…so im not sure if the ride quality changes with 20in wheels since the side walls are smaller.

I cant make the choice for ya but at the end of the day i chose the Michelins for my truck and they’ve been fantastic. I pull my camper a lot 9 months out of the year so the xl rating and better grade with heat was a selling point for me.

Firesatones on left / michelins on right
Info is for 18in wheels.
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Excellent information..I appreciate your insight!
I think either will be great. Right now we're living ~30 minutes from everywhere we routinely go, so the Michelins seem better, but we're planning to move to 10-15mins from everywhere we routinely go so the Firestones would work and look cool..maybe even jump to 285/65R20 then (oh boy, here he goes!).
If not the Firestone Destination AT2 in 275/60R20, I'd definitely ho with the 275/65R20 in the Michelin for the extra height (the AT2 doesn't come in 275/65R20).
Thanks for the info to ponder..gonna decide in next month.

 

[Gren71]

yea, it's tough to find somethning that isn't going to have some compromises. I've had a couple sets of the Michelin's on other trucks and they've always been great tires, wish Michelin would do something to at least make them look a little more aggressive on the sidewalls. I've heard good things about the Firestone's but don't have any personal experience with them but would defiantly be on my list. I would get the Continental Terrain contact but they don't have the best rating on snow/ice.

I would pay extra for a set of michelins with a cool looking sidewall haha

I had a set of continental terrain contact ATs and returned them after a couple hundred miles…only tire ive ever returned used. They were awful in rain and felt like my jeep was driving against resistance the entire time. I immediately lost mpg and power with them…and loosing a bit of power with the 3.6 in a gladiator was noticeable! I had more power with my 33in geolander g015s E rated than I did with the P rated continentals.

 

[Ready Go]

I had yokohama G015s on my gladiator and was less than impressed with their performance is rain. They ate snow / mud / sand / dry with ease…but i felt like they slipped a lot with minimal acceleration in rain.

Before i traded in my JT i had
Firestone Destination AT2s on and ws BLOWN AWAY. Phenomenal gas mileage due to the continuous central rib, quiet at all times, and handles all the terrain types I could throw at them.

I currently have michelline defender ltx ms2s on my truck and find my self wishing i got another set of the firestones.

Any chance you have a pic of your truck with the Michelins on it?

BTW..Thank You for Your Service!!

 

[Ready Go]

I installed a full set of 275/60-20 Michelin Defender LTX M/S 2 tires yesterday, $1270 out the door.
So far, so good. We will see if or how much I prefer them over the Falken Rubitrek's...

Any chance you have a pic of your truck with the Michelins?

Gren71 likes them..eager to hear if you do too?!

 

[spyder]

I'm a couple thousand miles into my America's Tire house brand A/Ts and love them. Installed and out the door for $666, no road noise, ride smooth, handle well, 3 Peak and have done just fine in mild mud, ice, and snow., and no change to my MPG from the stock street tires they replaced. I'll be buying them again when they wear out.

 

[Gren71]

Any chance you have a pic of your truck with the Michelins on it?

BTW..Thank You for Your Service!!

Plenty!

I walked out and snapped the first two this morning since i put the mid flaps on a couple weeks back.

 

[Gren71]

I'm a couple thousand miles into my America's Tire house brand A/Ts and love them. Installed and out the door for $666, no road noise, ride smooth, handle well, 3 Peak and have done just fine in mild mud, ice, and snow., and no change to my MPG from the stock street tires they replaced. I'll be buying them again when they wear out.

Im a tire dork and love seeing different ones in the wild. Can ya snap a pic and maybe give us a link?

 

[Ready Go]

Plenty!

I walked out and snapped the first two this morning since i put the mid flaps on a couple weeks back.

THANKS for the pics (and your Service, again!).
Yes, I agree, I wish the Michelins had more of a "Truck" sidewall and less of a "Passenger" sidewall.
I'm betting the Michelins are perfect for the camper towing you do..comfortable, reliable, great towing, etc.
I'm leaning towards sticking to my original Firestone Destination AT2s for tires..I don't currently tow often and tire life isn't a high priority for me.
The AT2s in a 275/60R20 will give me an extra 0.55" sidewall for a bit better bump absorbing, but without too much extra so they don't adversely affect corning (sidewall roll over)..the measured tread is the same as the OEM Bridgestones also.
Thanks again for your help!!

 

[Gren71]

THANKS for the pics (and your Service, again!).
Yes, I agree, I wish the Michelins had more of a "Truck" sidewall and less of a "Passenger" sidewall.
I'm betting the Michelins are perfect for the camper towing you do..comfortable, reliable, great towing, etc.
I'm leaning towards sticking to my original Firestone Destination AT2s for tires..I don't currently tow often and tire life isn't a high priority for me.
The AT2s in a 275/60R20 will give me an extra 0.55" sidewall for a bit better bump absorbing, but without too much extra so they don't adversely affect corning (sidewall roll over)..the measured tread is the same as the OEM Bridgestones also.
Thanks again for your help!!

Funny enough the tread pattern of the Firestones being so similar to the Bridgestone Dueler AT tires that came on my Jeep originally is what drew me to them. Absolutely loved the oem duelers but they never made it past 25k or so miles…so about a year of driving for me.

The tires in your picture are 114S, my stock were 116….and i assume all 1500s are, but im not sure. Id make sure they’re the same weight rating as your stockers.

Take a look at a local Firestone shop for the Tire install mountain balance. I had mine done at a local shop and with their mount and balance of a company tire they offered additional coverage. Plus it gave me peace of mind that Firestone would stand behind the tire warranty if something were to happen since they couldn’t pawn it off on a third party shop.

Youll love the firestones

 

[spyder]

Im a tire dork and love seeing different ones in the wild. Can ya snap a pic and maybe give us a link?

Pic may take some time, but these are what I went with. Low cost and that scares some people, but they've been on 2 mountain elk hunts and driven through a fair bit of snow and ice with zero problems, and I'm getting consistent 19mpg which is what I got before.

Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

www.discounttire.com

 

[Gren71]

Pic may take some time, but these are what I went with. Low cost and that scares some people, but they've been on 2 mountain elk hunts and driven through a fair bit of snow and ice with zero problems, and I'm getting consistent 19mpg which is what I got before.

Discount Tire | Tires and Wheels for Sale | Online & In-Person

www.discounttire.com

Those look really nice!

 

[Ready Go]

Funny enough the tread pattern of the Firestones being so similar to the Bridgestone Dueler AT tires that came on my Jeep originally is what drew me to them. Absolutely loved the oem duelers but they never made it past 25k or so miles…so about a year of driving for me.

The tires in your picture are 114S, my stock were 116….and i assume all 1500s are, but im not sure. Id make sure they’re the same weight rating as your stockers.

Take a look at a local Firestone shop for the Tire install mountain balance. I had mine done at a local shop and with their mount and balance of a company tire they offered additional coverage. Plus it gave me peace of mind that Firestone would stand behind the tire warranty if something were to happen since they couldn’t pawn it off on a third party shop.

Youll love the firestones

I may go the local route, I've got a good relationship with the franchise owner.
Ratings are pretty close for AT2s and OEMs...

 

[spyder]

Those look really nice!

I gambled on them, being that low cost and a sort of unknown name but spent a bunch of time reading reviews and America's Tire has a pretty solid return policy. I had them put on the day before I left for an elk trip, put 1200 miles on them through dirt roads, lava rock covered trails, and ice and snow, and got great mpg the whole trip. I'm sold. Why pay twice as much for something I'm just going to flog on mountain trails anyway, when these seem to work just as good.

I've got the newer version of Milestar Patagonias on my Bronco and those are just fine too, though they're an M/T and I didn't want that aggressive of a tire on my daily.

 

[Ready Go]

I gambled on them, being that low cost and a sort of unknown name but spent a bunch of time reading reviews and America's Tire has a pretty solid return policy. I had them put on the day before I left for an elk trip, put 1200 miles on them through dirt roads, lava rock covered trails, and ice and snow, and got great mpg the whole trip. I'm sold. Why pay twice as much for something I'm just going to flog on mountain trails anyway, when these seem to work just as good.

I've got the newer version of Milestar Patagonias on my Bronco and those are just fine too, though they're an M/T and I didn't want that aggressive of a tire on my daily.

I came across the MPs when searching for the Fuel Variants in Matte Gunmetal..looks nice!

 

[KingJ2]

Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure with Kevlar