Yeah, the stock tires look aggressive, but they really dont have a whole lot of actual grip. This is why I am using the 4A more in the rain, because I still have another 10k on my factory tires. Would like to atleast get my mileage out of them before upgrading.I mainly use mine for the snow/ice. Never had a need for it in the rain with the limited slip and once I swapped out the stock tires for the Continentals it just hooks up even under hard acceleration in 2wd on wet roads.