I’m sure they would have loved to keep the Hemi, but government regulations dictated otherwise.As much as the new motors intrigue me, I just think they're taking a big step backwards leaving the 5.7 and eco diesel behind. Loosing payload is huge for people that tow recreationally. Plus the fact they're pricing us retired and working normal people out.
Because Ford and Chevy don't still make V8s?I’m sure they would have loved to keep the Hemi, but government regulations dictated otherwise.
I’m sure they would have loved to keep the Hemi, but government regulations dictated otherwise.
How long will these next gen v8s meet emissions? They are trying to pass even stricter emissions. What difference does it make if we get the power from a high tech inline 6 or v8? Is it the sound? Last time I checked, GM was having lots of lifter problems with their V8. When I was researching trucks in 2022, the consensus was the 2.7 ecoboost was Ford’s most reliable engine.True in the fact they decided it wasn't worth it to them to revise the ancient Hemi to make it compliant. However, Ford and GM thought otherwise and they are keeping V8s in their trucks for the next-gen. Most recently GM has spent a billion to make sure that happens.
Yet Stellantis, who's line or RAM truck's popularity is heavily based on the Hemi didn't think it was necessary. Even Ford of all companies, who's moto is Ecoboost everything still has the 5.0L. Mainly because they new the next gen Mustang they just released had to still have a V8. Again, while Stellantis decided to go all EV or Hurricane with the Challenger/Charger.
I guess we'll know if they were right when the sales numbers come in the next few years. But given high prices, high interest rates and dropping a bit of the thing that made these vehicles popular, I think it will be an interesting time for Stellantis going forward.
I don't think every truck needs to have a V8, I would love a Raptor Ecoboost for example, however it has other positive traits like the longer travel suspension and wide body to make it interesting. A regular 1500 however needs a bit of aural spice that a V8 can provide.
How long will these next gen v8s meet emissions? They are trying to pass even stricter emissions. What difference does it make if we get the power from a high tech inline 6 or v8? Is it the sound? Last time I checked, GM was having lots of lifter problems with their V8. When I was researching trucks in 2022, the consensus was the 2.7 ecoboost was Ford’s most reliable engine.
Because Ford and Chevy don't still make V8s?
Ram is owned by an Europe company they hate V8s so no I don't think they would of loved to keep it. They want it to get get in line like Fiat.
They are still paying fines for the I6.What does "get in line like Fiat" even mean in this context?
They don't hate V8s and yes I believe FCA would've loved to keep it because it was easy profit for them. Ford and GM have rightly balanced their portfolio to the point where they don't have to pay CAFE fines, something FCA failed to do. It's not like I6 motors are prevalent amongst FCA's prior portfolio and Stellantis now. This I6 was their way out of being permanently beholden to ever increasing fines and credits needing to be bought from Tesla because they lacked fuel efficient/low emissions vehicles elsewhere.
They are still paying fines for the I6.
Fiat is an Europe automaker which would never even consider using an large engine. Their entire product line are small cars and engines which is the company who owns Ram, and thus likely the direction to continue to follow, smaller engines.
Have you not seen the disaster that are is Jeep Renegade?That has nothing to do with “liking” something. The I6 shares nothing with anything they’ve ever made and required heavy investment all the same. It’s not like this motor is now sharing parts with Fiat motors or being built on European production lines.
Have you not seen the disaster that are is Jeep Renegade?
They are essentially Fiats.
Are we talking about the same company? Stellantis?