mister_chui
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I just gave my 2017 Laramie 1500, which I absolutely loved, to my son as a reward for joining the Air Force instead of going to some party college. In January I bought CPO a bone stock 2022 Laramie with no additional packages like Sport or Off-Road. Only "upgrade" was the e-torque hybrid. I didn't really want that, but It was a good deal and a sexy Hydro Blue so I jumped. Right off the lot it felt pretty darn good, power delivery was great. average mileage was about 17, ride was plush and quiet. Very nice.
However, the suspension was SOOOO soft it was almost dangerous in any kind of quicker cornering or emergency maneuver. Huge amounts of body roll. The 265/75/18 tires also looked like they belonged on a minivan and would blow a sidewall at the first high speed waterbar on a dirt road. No tread depth, no meat at all. So I figured I'd fix both problems in one go, and got a set of Fox 2.0 shocks with eibach springs, and some OEM 20" wheels from the Off-Road package, and some 275/65/20 BFG's to go on them. I left the front shocks at the minimum lift setting, .75 inch, so I didnt need new control arms, as it was inside the OEM geometry for the Off Road pack. 33 inch OD compared to 32 on the stock tires, I figured a 3% increase would barely affect the stock power curve but boy was I wrong. . Looked super cool, but DAMN they didn't do the power delivery, gas mileage, or ride quality any favors! 0-60 is now around the 8 second mark, waaaay off the published 6.7 seconds and slower than my 2017. Gas mileage in my normal mix went from 17 to 15, and the new suspension handles great in the corners but the ride quality sucks. Bouncy and jittery in place of the previous Cadillac ride. So I have a few questions:
1 - Stock rear end in this truck is the 3.22. To get back to the stock gearing it had with the original tires I'd need like a 3.32 which as far as I can tell nobody makes. Next step up in an OEM product in is the 3.90 gears which seem like a huge jump that may have unintended consequences. Is going to the Gen 4 3.55 gears an option? Are the internals or the entire pumpkins interchangeable? Would that even fix the twin problems of slow acceleration and lower economy?
2 - Anybody know the stock spring rate of the base Laramie? The Fox 2.0's came with new Eibach springs, and what I'm feeling cant all just be damping, the spring rate has to be higher as well, but its not published on the Fox spec. I'd love to go like halfway back to the stock feel, but not all the way because the body roll was truly alarming on mountain roads. Some of it is down to going to lower profile, 10 ply tires, but I had those same BFG's on my 2017 and it didnt have these problems, is that just down to it having the Off Road package suspension tuning? New models also have the 22 inch wheel option with 45 series tires, and those probably ride just fine so it cant all be tires. Do they get different springs between trims or just different shocks?
Overall I'm feeling a bit frustrated. I loved my 2017, it was the best vehicle I've ever had, and this one just feels off.
However, the suspension was SOOOO soft it was almost dangerous in any kind of quicker cornering or emergency maneuver. Huge amounts of body roll. The 265/75/18 tires also looked like they belonged on a minivan and would blow a sidewall at the first high speed waterbar on a dirt road. No tread depth, no meat at all. So I figured I'd fix both problems in one go, and got a set of Fox 2.0 shocks with eibach springs, and some OEM 20" wheels from the Off-Road package, and some 275/65/20 BFG's to go on them. I left the front shocks at the minimum lift setting, .75 inch, so I didnt need new control arms, as it was inside the OEM geometry for the Off Road pack. 33 inch OD compared to 32 on the stock tires, I figured a 3% increase would barely affect the stock power curve but boy was I wrong. . Looked super cool, but DAMN they didn't do the power delivery, gas mileage, or ride quality any favors! 0-60 is now around the 8 second mark, waaaay off the published 6.7 seconds and slower than my 2017. Gas mileage in my normal mix went from 17 to 15, and the new suspension handles great in the corners but the ride quality sucks. Bouncy and jittery in place of the previous Cadillac ride. So I have a few questions:
1 - Stock rear end in this truck is the 3.22. To get back to the stock gearing it had with the original tires I'd need like a 3.32 which as far as I can tell nobody makes. Next step up in an OEM product in is the 3.90 gears which seem like a huge jump that may have unintended consequences. Is going to the Gen 4 3.55 gears an option? Are the internals or the entire pumpkins interchangeable? Would that even fix the twin problems of slow acceleration and lower economy?
2 - Anybody know the stock spring rate of the base Laramie? The Fox 2.0's came with new Eibach springs, and what I'm feeling cant all just be damping, the spring rate has to be higher as well, but its not published on the Fox spec. I'd love to go like halfway back to the stock feel, but not all the way because the body roll was truly alarming on mountain roads. Some of it is down to going to lower profile, 10 ply tires, but I had those same BFG's on my 2017 and it didnt have these problems, is that just down to it having the Off Road package suspension tuning? New models also have the 22 inch wheel option with 45 series tires, and those probably ride just fine so it cant all be tires. Do they get different springs between trims or just different shocks?
Overall I'm feeling a bit frustrated. I loved my 2017, it was the best vehicle I've ever had, and this one just feels off.
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