2020 EcoDiesel 3.0 Oil Recommendations

[greggsmith21]

Here's a list from a FB group that a member posted. Thought I'd share his insight and wealth of knowledge for folks here. Thank you to William for posting in our FB group.

Oil Options for the MS-12991 Specification on the Gen3

Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W-40

https://www.pennzoil.com/…/full…/pennzoil-platinum-euro.html

RAVENOL VollSynth Turbo VST SAE 5W-40
https://www.ravenolamerica.com/…/5w-40-motor-oil-ravenol-f…/
TOTAL Quartz 9000 Energy SAE 5W-40
http://catalog.lubricants.total.com/…/QUARTZ-9000-ENERGY-5W…
MOTUL 8100 X-Clean 5W-40
https://www.motul.com/us/en-US/products/8100-x-clean-5w40
Quaker State Ultimate Durability EURO 5W-40
https://www.quakerstate.com/…/fd56c985174ce1ad3fdc2a4701707…
Havoline ProDS Full Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40
https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx…
CAM2 Blue Blood Elite Euro 5W-40
http://www.cam2.com/…/80565-382%20Blue%20Blood%20Euro%205W-…
FUCHS TITAN SuperSyn SAE 5W-40
https://www.fuchs.com/…/prod…/8867-titan-supersyn-sae-5w-40/
Red Line Oil 5w40 Motor Oil
https://www.redlineoil.com/5w40-motor-oil
ELF Evolution 900 FT 5W-40
http://www.lubs-products-database.total.com/…/v…/34500/34510
ELF Evolution 900 SXR 5W-40
http://www.lubs-products-database.total.com/…/v…/21500/21994
VALVOLINE Advanced Full Synthetic MST 5W-40
Visual evidence from Shawn Crowe - website does not list product yet.
MOPAR MaxPro 5w40 P/N 68231020AA
Pulled that one directly from the owners manual.
Those are currently all the oils I can find who’s marketing information clearly states it is for use with the MS-12991 Specification.
IF you find another, please let me know so that I may update the list. If one of these falls off the list, likewise, please tell me!
Unofficial Lists: These Oils have been personally confirmed to meet the specifications, but the marketing materials do not indicate this at this time:
LIQUI-MOLY LEICHTAUF HIGH TECH SAE 5W-40
Confirmed via email 04/07/2020- information forwarded to ask for materials update to reflect compatibility.
TRIAX Euro LX 5W-40
Confirmed via email 04/07/2020- information forwarded to ask for materials update to reflect compatibility.
TRIAX Euro Ultra VX 5W-40
Confirmed via email 04/07/2020- information forwarded to ask for materials update to reflect compatibility.
AMSOIL 5W-40 Classic European Engine Oil (EFM)
Confirmed via email 04/07/20 - will be in next update of product data sheets.
AMALIE Elixir Full Synthetic Euro 5W-40
Confirmed via email 04/08/2020 - will not be included on product data sheets.
Millers Oil Trident 5w40 Fully Synthetic
Confirmed via email 04/08/2020 - also will not be included on datasheet as best I can indicate.

 

[WXman]

Low SAPS oil is what we need, right? An AMSOIL rep told me today that typically these Euro oils are full SAPS so we should be careful of what we're using. He was surprised that FCA switched to a spec that's normally used on small gasoline cars.

 

[HST]

Hots shot secret has a new SN oil that is rated for diesel and its a mid SAPS oil . I will call and talk to them before i change my oil . I might be sticking with a CK rated oil .

 

[EugeneYYZ]

go with bmw LL01 (penzoil euro 5w/40) , its more oily than Rotella or bmw LL04 , much better lubrication , less ecology , but kill the beaver save the tree lol .

 

[J-Cooz]

Am I missing something on the motul oil? I don't see the MS12991.

 

[J-Cooz]

For my Canadian friends, I just happened to look at the Motomaster 5W-40 and it meets MS12991 spec. The price on sale can't be beat either! Said it's formulated by Shell so I assume it's just rebranded.

 

[Palo Duro Pete]

Am I missing something on the motul oil? I don't see the MS12991.

There is a mistake in the list. The Motul X-clean is not compliant, but the X-cess is. Having said that, I still went with the X-clean because it has lower SAPS.

 

[Zoompastu]

I do love Redline!
$50 a Gallon retail

 

[naztruk]

I bought MOTUL X-cessgen2 for my 2021 Gen 3 Eco Diesel. Good/bad anyone else using it? I used Pennzoil in the first oil change and getting ready to do the second one.

 

[WXman]

I bought MOTUL X-cessgen2 for my 2021 Gen 3 Eco Diesel. Good/bad anyone else using it? I used Pennzoil in the first oil change and getting ready to do the second one.

I'm about to get oil analysis done on this oil after 7,000 miles of heavy towing. We'll see if it's all it's cracked up to be.

 

[Ages]

There is a mistake in the list. The Motul X-clean is not compliant, but the X-cess is. Having said that, I still went with the X-clean because it has lower SAPS.

If it is not MS-12991 wont it void your Gen 3 ecodiesel warranty? I've heard that the Motul X-Clean 5W-40 is a better oil, but the Technical Datasheet from the Motul website doesn't show it as meeting the MS-12991 standard. The 8100 Motul X-Cess gen2 does. I'd prefer to go with the X-clean for the same reason you do, but not if it is going to potentially void my warranty.

 

[Ages]

I'm about to get oil analysis done on this oil after 7,000 miles of heavy towing. We'll see if it's all it's cracked up to be.

How did your oil analysis go?

 

[WXman]

How did your oil analysis go?

I posted the virgin analysis but I'm still working on a full cycle with heavy use before I can do a used oil analysis.

I will have a used oil analysis on the Motul X-cess 5W40 soon.

 

[AdamChandler]

"We recommend you use 5W-40 synthetic engine oil such as Mopar  that
meets the manufacturer Material Standard MS-12991 and the API SN engine
oil category is required"

MOTUL 8100 X-CESS GEN2 5W-40 - Motul

MOTUL 8100 X-CESS GEN2 5W-40 - Motul

www.motul.com

NICE< It's great to see that this meets the spec. I have a LOT of this in my basement. I bought 4 cases of it last year on sale for my Volkswagen nice to see it meets spec. that's a sigh of relief.

 

[DieselFuelOnly]

Nice list of oils that meet the crazy spec!
Crazy thing is Shell, who makes T6 (doesn’t meet spec) owns both Penzoil and Quaker State!

 

[Ages]

I was told the Motul 8100 X-clean 5W-40 meets the MS12991 Standard. Here's a copy of the Tech Sheet.

 

[1stdiesel]

Am I missing something on the motul oil? I don't see the MS12991.

if you go to motul.com its on the side next to the pic of the oil under oem approvals

 

[1stdiesel]

its 28 dollars for 5L

 

[1stdiesel]

Am I missing something on the motul oil? I don't see the MS12991.

its the 8100 x-cess gen2 5w-40 not the x-clean

 

[WXman]

I changed my oil early on the first cycle, then slowly started ramping up distance between changes. The Motul X-cess 5W40 did not look good to me. Iron and aluminum were high, moly (anti-wear) was low, and viscosity was low at the end of a 7,300 mile run. I towed a trailer a few times during that cycle, otherwise it was 50/50 city/highway commuting.

I'm not impressed with the Motul at all.

The Quaker State has a much more robust additive package, and I am now running it for testing. We'll soon see what analysis looks like on that oil for 1/3rd the price. Should be interesting....