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2026 HEMI or Hurricane?
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Hemi is built simpler and to be a longer lasting engine, but it’s rare that the engine fails either way. The etorque is a no-go for me too. If the choice was between the I6 and a straight-up hemi with no etorque and no MDS, that’d be a harder choice, but I’d still lean I6.
I ended up ordering a 26' Hemi over the hurricane; mostly V8 noises for me. I was originally shopping F150s drove every one of there engines and then went and checked out rams again, drove SST and then a Hemi. Ram's ride quality brought me over fully, but I liked the hemi feel. SST was pretty solid too, but its been a while since I had a V8 so I figured why not.
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Straight 6 engine technology has been around for decades......ditto for turbocharging technology. Just look at the Cummins 5.9L and 6.7L engines.....in terms of structure. I know they are vastly different engines running on different platforms and fuel. My point is that straight six turbo charged engines have been proven, make gobs of power, are silky smooth and are very reliable.....if you don't beat them and take care of them. I have plenty of other Mopar V-8 performance cars and trucks, but for my daily driver, I would drive my SST HO to the moon and back. The smoothness, power and ride quality are the best I've experienced in any CAR or truck......every.
buckeyecool71
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Had a '19 1500 North Hemi with E-torque. Had zero issues with the engine itself. Manifold cracked multiple times and multiple exhaust leaks. RAM Cares did a great job covering most issues I had all the way up to about 75k miles.
Final straw was an electrical issue that popped up that would randomly give me a shifter unavailable when stopped at red light, stop sign and had it happen in traffic once.
Traded in for a '26 Rebel GT with Hurricane SO. I would take the Hurricane everyday and twice on Sunday. It is super smooth, solid power and the RAM ride comfort is the reason I bought another RAM. The GT is super fun to drive with the Sport mode!!
Final straw was an electrical issue that popped up that would randomly give me a shifter unavailable when stopped at red light, stop sign and had it happen in traffic once.
Traded in for a '26 Rebel GT with Hurricane SO. I would take the Hurricane everyday and twice on Sunday. It is super smooth, solid power and the RAM ride comfort is the reason I bought another RAM. The GT is super fun to drive with the Sport mode!!
Recently traded a '19 1500 Hemi E-torque for a '26 1500 Hurricane SO and prefer the hurricane. It is noticeably quicker from stop and more powerful accelerating when in motion. It has more power delivered more smoothly. The hemi was starting to make those concerning noises. The one aspect I miss about the Hemi E-torque is the gas mileage though. I can not seem to get above 18mph average (mostly around town) while the Hemi E-torque was usually 20-21 under same driving conditions. I see people post better hurricane mph averages so maybe it is just me and I need to be either lighter or heavier on the accelerator.
Ram1500OwnerMaybe
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This topic pops up every month.
Each time it seems more and more are replying Hurricane over Hemi.
Would like to see the HO option on the Big Horn or Larimie.
Each time it seems more and more are replying Hurricane over Hemi.
Would like to see the HO option on the Big Horn or Larimie.
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Sales literally collapsed last year when the only option was turbos. Was that the only reason why it collapsed, dunno, but it definitely played a huge part.
Yeah I said that right from the beginning. I'm not interested in turbos at this point, but bankrupting you just to get their most powerful engine is beyond stupid and extremely infuriating as a potential customer. I'd purchase a different truck at that point.
Sales collapsed more from pricing than anything. People just use the lack of Hemi as an excuse. Insentives went away and prices went up. Plus was a new canbus system with lots of issues that kept some buyers away. Sure there are those who are so stubborn they can't fathom buying a truck without a V8, even if the available engines are all around the better option.
It's like all the "purists" who cried when the 2005 4-door Charger was released saying a Charger shouldn't have four doors, yet it literally saved Dodge and was a huge success. Then when the Challenger was released with a V6 option and people cried because a "muscle car" shouldn't have a V6 option, even though that was the best seller and even the original 60s/70s Challenger had the slant 6!option.
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Is it sad that I still love my EcoDiesel and hope that it lasts me a long time so that the Hemi/Hurricane debate can be settled and I will know which one to buy next. 
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I think it was more than that, it was definitely not just the lack of a Hemi, but a mixture of prices and perception due to that certainly played a role in the sales drop. An angry minority can certainly effect a silent majority on perception of a vehicle or anything for sale.
The V8 is back and more expensive than the superior S.O., but they are selling all the allotments available. The V8 in the RAM is interesting at this point, will it be a smaller percentage of total engines like the F150's 5.0L (which is cheaper and considered the lessor engine to the 3.5L Ecoboost) or will it become the majority of RAM 1500 powertrains? I guess we'll find out. But based on typical RAM customers, I suspect at least an even split between the 5.7L vs 3.0L, assuming no issues with supplies.
I do wish RAM does what Ford does in regards to their engine hierarchy, that is ....
1. 3.5L V6 (HO) / 3.5L V6 (SO) "Top Dog"
2. 5.0L V8 2nd "middle"
3. 2.7L V6 (SO) "entry"
RAM should do....
1. 3.0L I6 (HO) / 3.0L I6 (SO) "Top Dog"
2. 5.7L V8 "middle"
3. 3.6L V6 "entry"
But of course Stellantis is milking this, like they always do, charging more for what is the lower powered alternative in the product line, likely cheaper to produce as well. For Ford, they have had over a decade of getting their customers used to V6 turbos over V8s, selling the Coyote only to keep V8 fans happy. For RAM, which was marketed for just as long as a "Hemi" truck, it's a different story for a lot of their customer base. Which I guess is why Stellantis can get away with charging more for technically the cheaper & less powerful engine.
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Actual production cost for the Hemi is higher than the Hurricane. But the Hemi has a higher profit margin because it's already paid for the initial engineering and design. And supply chain for parts is well established. But we already see issues with back orders on some parts, and I blame that on obsolete technology used for the Hemi. You have to realize, the Gen III Hemi was designed in the early 2000s. With only minor updates over the years. The biggest being the switch to the Eagle heads. I doubt there is any other production vehicle being built with an engine design that old.
You are correct that Dodge/Ram lived off the Hemi name and advertising for so long, it's engrained into people's minds when you mention the brands. Even though the V6 versions were the higher selling models. But the HEMI got people interested and into the dealerships. If they want to keep a "Hemi" V8 option, they really need to do a significant update to the design to make it more efficient.
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BowDown
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People that complain about the Hurricane/Turbos/6 Cylinder remind me of the people who complained when OEM's went from carbs to FI. Simply resistant to change offer no proof to backup their claims of doom and gloom.
The HEMI needs some serious modernizing to compete with the Hurricane or GM's V8 engines (who reinvested 800+MM into the V8s for the future).
The failure argument makes no sense to me, Ram has a 10/100 year warranty on both powertrains
The HEMI needs some serious modernizing to compete with the Hurricane or GM's V8 engines (who reinvested 800+MM into the V8s for the future).
The failure argument makes no sense to me, Ram has a 10/100 year warranty on both powertrains
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Really, that's surprising, even with current amortization cost, it cost more for Stellantis to make a 5.7L Hemi than a Hurricane? I would have assumed once they geared back up and began production again it would go down, but sounds like it more expensive regardless?
Absolutely agree it needs major revisions and modernization, like GM is doing with their small blocks. In the past I would have said Hemi all the way, but since I will be buying my next Rebel in the Philippines, I am going with the 3.0L due to taxes and registrations in that country based on engine size. This review of the 3.0L driving in that country help me make that decision.
By the way, interested to see what people in other countries think of the Rebel 3.0L?
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BowDown
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Ram is about to release 2 SRT themed trucks though (TRX and a street themed version), may be worth waiting to see what the 2nd actually turns out to be
www.thedrive.com
Ram Is About to Launch an SRT-Badged Street Truck: Report
It won't have a Viper V10 like the last one, but don't be surprised if it brings back the Hellcat alongside the revived TRX.
www.thedrive.com
I'm looking to buy a new Ram within the next 8 months or so. My concern isn't really with choosing between Hermi and I6, but with the seemingly endless list of (software) problems I read about. I'd love to get an RHO, but wow are there a lot of problems with it. Ugh.
You have to realize the Hemi is a bigger engine with more moving parts add in MDS, VVT, SRV and E-torque and it just gets even more complicated. And inline 6 is a simple engine and turbos are much more simple than an equivalent supercharger.
StuartV
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I bought my first RAM in 2009. I drove Fords for 20 years before that.
One thing I have learned is to not buy the first year of any new model.
Well, I should've learned. I bought a '25 Limited not realizing that it is the first year of a whole new electrical infrastructure.
Generally, (in my experience) by Year 2 they have things fairly well sorted and by Year 3 things are pretty darn solid. In general. In the past.
So, if you're looking at buying a '26 with a SST motor, I wouldn't be TOO worried about it.
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I'm not sure I would call the Hurricane simple either because it has two less cylinders. It's DOHC with twin water & oil cooled turbos, electronic wategates, electric water pump, high pressure direct injection, etc. Also, the Hemi has been around since how long now? I suspect it's production has been amortized down quite a bit by now, whereas the Hurricane is a ways from that.
Do we actually have something official that states production costs of these engines currently?
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