2022 Orders

[ekaz]

I have a 19 so everything on it will go on the new one. I will sell my factory rims an tires an buy me some Nittosfor it though.

First RAM so nothing to transfer over but may have new tires waiting for it.

 

[Jimmymc]

I don't know how the Canadian guys have lasted this long. It's killing me an I ordered in May.

Probably be close to a year when I finally get mine…. Ordered Nov 23 2020 lol

 

[KWKSLVR]

Probably be close to a year when I finally get mine…. Ordered Nov 23 2020 lol

Is that in Canadian years or American?

 

[Jimmymc]

Is that in Canadian years or American?

Canadian, it’s the same conversion as km to miles so it’ll work out to about 1.6 lol

 

[brenan00]

I was looking to ship several vehicles to Guam a few months ago, and container ships were the only way. They wouldn’t agree to stack the cars without a steel box around them. Go figure.

So do you just support Guam, or do you get to go too?
Makes Florida seem cool.

 

[Eighty]

So do you just support Guam, or do you get to go too?
Makes Florida seem cool.

I was thinking about taking on a massive construction project at Camp Blaze (new barracks complex for the marines), but it ultimately fell through.
It was a risky deal, so I’m not heart broken about it. But I was looking forward to spending some time there.

 

[RDSnj2021]

I tried this a month ago and have gotten nothing. I have gotten emails form a local dealer though.

With what local dealers charge msrp or + premium, they can easily offer a coupon. What I learned on this forum is that everyone paying msrp, above or even with a 2500 or so discount is overpaying. Those on this forum who have taken delivery and received incentives from Ram or Chrysler financial, etc. really got a great deal. There are threads about this including how to use Chrysler Financial to gain the rebate if there is one.

 

[ekaz]

With what local dealers charge msrp or + premium, they can easily offer a coupon. What I learned on this forum is that everyone paying msrp, above or even with a 2500 or so discount is overpaying. Those on this forum who have taken delivery and received incentives from Ram or Chrysler financial, etc. really got a great deal. There are threads about this including how to use Chrysler Financial to gain the rebate if there is one.

What the dealer charges has nothing to do with RAM. The dealer buys the truck and can sell it fot whatever they want. RAM offers incentives to sell trucks, with the way things are, there is no need to offer incentives. They can't make trucks fast enough.

 

[arod412]

So for number crunchers like @eighty…do we have a guestimate on how many orders have been placed by us users, and not dealer orders at this time? Can we go by vin to calculate that number or are the current vins include dealer orders, which can show the jump in vin numbers.

My actual question is as follows… if there are 3000 orders placed by us folks (not by dealers), can that technically mean that if they are pumping out 1k trucks a day, 5k trucks by the end of the week. Would that technically mean that all user orders can be knocked out in one week, or is my math/data is off here?


2022 Big Horn Back Country
6/14…order placed
6/24…D status and Vin

2016 Dodge Charger scat pack and my wife 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara

 

[Eighty]

As far as I know, there’s no way to discern individual orders from dealer orders. In fact, some of the “sold” orders are actually dealer orders (which is frowned upon by FCA), but I have strong proof that this is happening.
I do know that there are around 50,000 VINs in the system right now, so they theoretically have an 8-9 week backlog if production stays around 6k/wk.
I spent some time mining another source of individual DT orders, and all that I found were in the same clumps as ours. So as a WAG, I am assuming that roughly half of the 50k are “sold” orders. But that is a pure guess.

 

[MetalRebel2022]

Got my vin today. 150458. Please add me to the spreadsheet.

 

[brenan00]

I was thinking about taking on a massive construction project at Camp Blaze (new barracks complex for the marines), but it ultimately fell through.
It was a risky deal, so I’m not heart broken about it. But I was looking forward to spending some time there.

Yes, I had a few friends involved with renovating the naval hospital there. It is like the Wild West. Also one of my daughters best friends father is in jail for giving bribes in Micronesia for construction projects. We need a place for our marines if they have to leave Okinawa, my wife use to run the O club at K Bay. Be careful out there.

 

[Eighty]

Yes, I had a few friends involved with renovating the naval hospital there. It is like the Wild West. Also one of my daughters best friends father is in jail for giving bribes in Micronesia for construction projects. We need a place for our marines if they have to leave Okinawa, my wife use to run the O club at K Bay. Be careful out there.

Yeah, all of this build-up is for relocating all the marines off of Okinawa. They’re a couple years late on it, so now it’s a mad rush. The local Chamorran construction workforce is like 5,000 people, and the Navy estimates it will take 20,000+ to get all of this work done. That wasn’t really my concern (I can get people there), but feeding concrete, rebar, formwork, etc, to the island is the problem. The Navy has CRAZY liquidated damages because of the urgent nature of the work. And ultimately, the risk was greater than the reward.
I tried to get out there several times, but the Covid restrictions meant I would have had to spend two weeks in quarantine when I arrived. Couldn’t afford that kind of time away from my local operations. Even tried to get a waiver from the military, but they wouldn’t do it.
Oh well…their loss!
Last thing about Guam and I’m done. I recall that it was going to cost me about $10,000 to get each container load of equipment from the Central US out to the island (and to the jobsite). I’m curious to know how much got tacked on to your truck to get it out to Hawaii.

 

[RDSnj2021]

Does anybody have any idea how paint color choices factor in to production? I understand certain trucks will be scheduled when the parts are available and other trucks will be held from production until parts become available. How does paint color factor in? I opted for the premium ivory white tri color pearl coat. Thoughts?

 

[Eighty]

I can’t say definitively, but the only thing I’ve seen regarding paint is that the limited-run paints might be a timing problem. Like some of the colors that were on the BTS trucks.
Having said that, I think they batch trucks by color. Here’s a snapshot of yesterday’s build sheets for TRX’s. Almost all of them were black.

 

[brenan00]

Yeah, all of this build-up is for relocating all the marines off of Okinawa. They’re a couple years late on it, so now it’s a mad rush. The local Chamorran construction workforce is like 5,000 people, and the Navy estimates it will take 20,000+ to get all of this work done. That wasn’t really my concern (I can get people there), but feeding concrete, rebar, formwork, etc, to the island is the problem. The Navy has CRAZY liquidated damages because of the urgent nature of the work. And ultimately, the risk was greater than the reward.
I tried to get out there several times, but the Covid restrictions meant I would have had to spend two weeks in quarantine when I arrived. Couldn’t afford that kind of time away from my local operations. Even tried to get a waiver from the military, but they wouldn’t do it.
Oh well…their loss!
Last thing about Guam and I’m done. I recall that it was going to cost me about $10,000 to get each container load of equipment from the Central US out to the island (and to the jobsite). I’m curious to know how much got tacked on to your truck to get it out to Hawaii.

1695 plus 50 (Hawaii surcharge), supposedly the destination fee is equal throughout the US. To make it fairer for all dealerships, I read that when looking for how things get delivered. That being said, currently the dealership I am working with is putting “$4995 doing business in Hawaii fee”, on the the other side of the island they are below msrp, I guess do you ant high arp or volume. All businesses have to make that decision, that choice killed our ultrasound business. Everyone was fighting for market share, so prices went from $350K back in 1990 to $120K from 1995 to now. Later

 

[KWKSLVR]

As far as I know, there’s no way to discern individual orders from dealer orders. In fact, some of the “sold” orders are actually dealer orders (which is frowned upon by FCA), but I have strong proof that this is happening.
I do know that there are around 50,000 VINs in the system right now, so they theoretically have an 8-9 week backlog if production stays around 6k/wk.
I spent some time mining another source of individual DT orders, and all that I found were in the same clumps as ours. So as a WAG, I am assuming that roughly half of the 50k are “sold” orders. But that is a pure guess.

Sounds spot on to me. I know when I ordered from Mark Dodge (June 20th if I remember correctly) she said my truck should be coming in with their first round of 2022s. Now, I know a lot has changed and I don't know what prompted her to say that but from a VIN standpoint, I think most all of our 2022 orders should be completed early into the production cycle once it starts IF all the necessary parts are available. Now the logistics side of things when it comes to delivery is a while different ball game. We could theoretically almost all have completed builds by the end of September but not have keys in hand for months.

 

[Eighty]

Sounds spot on to me. I know when I ordered from Mark Dodge (June 20th if I remember correctly) she said my truck should be coming in with their first round of 2022s. Now, I know a lot has changed and I don't know what prompted her to say that but from a VIN standpoint, I think most all of our 2022 orders should be completed early into the production cycle once it starts IF all the necessary parts are available. Now the logistics side of things when it comes to delivery is a while different ball game. We could theoretically almost all have completed builds by the end of September but not have keys in hand for months.

I want to caution everyone who is watching the Lookahead chart. This is all purely theoretical and idealistic. As with the 2021 deliveries, the actual production dates for each truck will vary wildly. Some of the early orders will languish in D1 for weeks, while some of the later orders will be built first thing. There are a ton of variables that we can’t see (even some that FCA can’t see). So take everything on it with a grain of salt.

 

[ekaz]

I'm thinking (hoping) that the push back in production start allowed them to build up inventory on the needed parts to push these out. I know the 21s are the same besides the radio, but still slightly optimistic that's the case.

 

[arod412]

I want to caution everyone who is watching the Lookahead chart. This is all purely theoretical and idealistic. As with the 2021 deliveries, the actual production dates for each truck will vary wildly. Some of the early orders will languish in D1 for weeks, while some of the later orders will be built first thing. There are a ton of variables that we can’t see (even some that FCA can’t see). So take everything on it with a grain of salt.

Absolutely. Definitely will affect my big horn order because things like bed liner. Bed cover, side steps, and off road decals that isn't normal, outside the standard line build.

2022 Ram 1500 Big horn Back country (D status)

2016 Dodge Charger scat pack and my wife 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara (2.5" rc lift with 35" duratracs)