Wheel weights

[Sratt17]

Looking at a set of Rebel takeoffs and had a question. The seller said they are balanced and ready to go, but 1 of them has quite a bit of weights added. The bottom right one is the concern. How much should there be normally, and is this going to be an issue? Thanks.

 

[mikeru82]

I would just have them rebalanced if I was at all concerned about it. It’s not a big deal to do that.

 

[Paul B]

With that many weights I'd say either bad wheel or bad tire, or both.
I had similar problem with one on my tt tires.
I made tire seller spin my rim, found to be good. They couldn't balance with tire without a ton of weights in any position.
Hence bad tire. They installed another tire and all went well.
You should never need excessive weight to balance a tire.
Paul B

 

[Sratt17]

With that many weights I'd say either bad wheel or bad tire, or both.
I had similar problem with one on my tt tires.
I made tire seller spin my rim, found to be good. They couldn't balance with tire without a ton of weights in any position.
Hence bad tire. They installed another tire and all went well.
You should never need excessive weight to balance a tire.
Paul B

That’s a good idea with the rim only-thanks. I’m asking the seller to do it, but they aren’t local to me-hope I can trust them.

 

[kapinallinen2]

My tires have more weights than air in them. But yes, couple of the wheels look like that.
Should be fine as long as the ride is smooth.

 

[HSKR R/T]

If you aren't buying them for the tires and plan on replacing them, I wouldn't worry. But that much weight in just one wheel screams bad tire.

 

[Sratt17]

Any problems with the weights falling off?

 

[w3wjr]

I have dynapro at2 xtreams that came (new) on the used 2023 2500 i bought 2 months ago. They have been balanced 2x now and they still vibrate. I Installed centramatic balancers and the vibration problem is gone. I have used centramac balancers on several 2500/3500 rams over the years

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[Ready Go]

I'd see if you could find a Road Force balance shop..take all the weights off and start over..that is a ridiculous amount of weight..that tire is probably the problem.

 

[1BADRAMLIMITED]

thats a decent amount but not a concern but i would personally get them road force balanced or just rebalanced

 

[kapinallinen2]

My current set of duratracks needed road-force balancing to bring them under control.
190 bucks, worth every penny.

 

[mikeru82]

Looking at a set of Rebel takeoffs and had a question. The seller said they are balanced and ready to go, but 1 of them has quite a bit of weights added. The bottom right one is the concern. How much should there be normally, and is this going to be an issue? Thanks.View attachment 214227

The part that bothers me about the way that tire is balanced is the fact that they stuck a bunch of weight on one side of the wheel, then about double that much weight 180 degrees on the other side of the wheel. Almost like they didn't remove the old weights before balancing it. I spent a few years working in a couple different tire shops in my youth. We balanced some big truck tires at those shops, but I was taught to never balance a wheel by adding weight to opposite sides.

On a side note, if I was balancing a tire/wheel and it needed what I considered excessive weight, I'd deflate the tire, break the beads loose, and rotate the tire 180 degrees on the rim before airing back up. Almost every time it required less weight to balance out.

 

[HSKR R/T]

The part that bothers me about the way that tire is balanced is the fact that they stuck a bunch of weight on one side of the wheel, then about double that much weight 180 degrees on the other side of the wheel. Almost like they didn't remove the old weights before balancing it. I spent a few years working in a couple different tire shops in my youth. We balanced some big truck tires at those shops, but I was taught to never balance a wheel by adding weight to opposite sides.

On a side note, if I was balancing a tire/wheel and it needed what I considered excessive weight, I'd deflate the tire, break the beads loose, and rotate the tire 180 degrees on the rim before airing back up. Almost every time it required less weight to balance out.

The one set of weights is on outside in wheels the other is on inside. We don't have the lip weights for the outside of wheel for that balance point. But it's still excessive amount on each spot. If it takes that much for one tire, Id be asking for a different tire

 

[SD Rebel]

Go to Discount/American Tire, pay for their lifetime balance/rotate & road hazard warranty, I think I paid around $200 or so and easily more than pays for itself on rebalancing and/or tire replacement.

You don't have to have bought your tires from them to get this package, nor do they have to be new. Also, they fix flats for free there.

Typically that much weight is related to the tire, it could also be the orientation of the tire on the wheel if it wasn't done right, as all tires have a heavy side which is marked with a colored marker, the installer may have gotten it wrong and compensated by adding more weight. If it balances fine it really isn't an issue, just not ideal.

 

[Sratt17]

Thanks for all the replies. The seller told me they came from the factory like this and they are brand new. According to their website they aren’t a regular tire shop and just sell oem takeoffs, but they have agreed to rebalance the bad one for me. Unfortunately they aren’t local to me or I would go there in person.

 

[CHeYeNNe71]

The part that bothers me about the way that tire is balanced is the fact that they stuck a bunch of weight on one side of the wheel, then about double that much weight 180 degrees on the other side of the wheel. Almost like they didn't remove the old weights before balancing it. I spent a few years working in a couple different tire shops in my youth. We balanced some big truck tires at those shops, but I was taught to never balance a wheel by adding weight to opposite sides.

On a side note, if I was balancing a tire/wheel and it needed what I considered excessive weight, I'd deflate the tire, break the beads loose, and rotate the tire 180 degrees on the rim before airing back up. Almost every time it required less weight to balance out.

This! It's crazy to have weights on both sides. Someone was clueless doing that wheel.

 

[HSKR R/T]

This! It's crazy to have weights on both sides. Someone was clueless doing that wheel.

I mean, they could have used the hammer on wheel weights on the inside, but most shops just use the tape weights, like that, anymore. Especially on aluminum wheels. The only crazy thing is the amount of weight they have on there

 

[HSKR R/T]

Thanks for all the replies. The seller told me they came from the factory like this and they are brand new. According to their website they aren’t a regular tire shop and just sell oem takeoffs, but they have agreed to rebalance the bad one for me. Unfortunately they aren’t local to me or I would go there in person.

Seller is talking out their ***. No wheel will come from the factory with that much weight. They might be used tires that came off factory wheels but it wasn't those wheels.

 

[Sratt17]

Seller is talking out their ***. No wheel will come from the factory with that much weight. They might be used tires that came off factory wheels but it wasn't those wheels.

That’s what I thought also. I also think they didn’t expect anyone to ask for pics of the backside of each one or question the amount of weights. I called them today and was told they have more than 1 set available and they are doing their best to put the 4 nicest together for me. We’ll see……

 

[mikeru82]

I mean, they could have used the hammer on wheel weights on the inside, but most shops just use the tape weights, like that, anymore. Especially on aluminum wheels. The only crazy thing is the amount of weight they have on there

It's not about the type of weights used, it's the way that they're placed around the wheel. It's not normal practice to place weights (of any kind) on both sides of the wheel (180 degrees apart). In the lower right pic the amount of weight at the 11 o'clock position is about double the weight 5 o'clock position of the wheel. In the upper left pic there are seven weights at the 1 o'clock position of the wheel and five on the 7 o'clock position. And in the upper right pic there are four weights near the 7 o'clock position of the wheel and a single weight near the 4 o'clock position. It looks like only the lower left wheel has weights in one position on the wheel.

I will add this disclaimer: I have no experience with road force balancing. Nor do I know how it's done other than I can recognize the equipment used for that. Maybe this is normal practice when road force balancing? For normal tire balancing it's not normal practice to place weights in more than one location around the wheel. I've had cases where I split the required weight and attached half to the inside of the wheel and half on the outside when I had problems getting one to balance, or needed a lot of weight. But never 180 degrees apart because it defeats what you're trying to do with normal balancing.