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yrralguthrie

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I have a 2023 e torque 5.7 v8. I was raised in the age of V8's. I drove fast then and still do sometimes and test the limits of the V8. Other than ego and some esoterics I do not understand why people still think that V8 should be produced. Other engines are just as powerful just as quick and obviously they have a need to be produced because it certainly cost more to develop a new engine than to just use what's available ie 5.7 v8. I think too many people live in the past and want other people to live with them. I'm 79 years old and I embrace new things and any new things that I can try. New things may not work all the time but I'm wanting to try. It is impossible to advance without trying new things. The sound of that V8 does not define me. However please be aware I am not emphasis not directing any hatred towards anyone that thinks differently than me.
 
I prefer the quiet of the I6. That it also has more get up and go is nice too.
 
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I'm a bit old-school and like the V8, the off-the-line torque. Also the exhaust sound and am pleased with what Ram provides as an exhaust system for the Rebel.

I don't think the I6 is ready for prime time yet, maybe another year or two. It certainly has potential.

My lady has a Ford Ranger with the turbo 4 banger, and she tows a good-sized RV with it. Sure, it needs the weight distributing hitch and has great results after careful setup and adjustment. Tows "flat" with no porpoising or sway. I include this as the trailer is just about at the specified limits for the Ranger in size and weight. That little engine does just fine, she just did a 3,000 mile round trip with the setup and did not feel it was lacking at all. The only prep for the trip was an oil change and switching to premium gas (heavy use calls for mid-grade). The only problem was a code after the first day which self-cleared the next morning, probably due to the fuel change. I forget the code number but it made sense for the change in fuel and heavy engine load. It never came back. She is now going to run mid grade for a couple tanks before going back to regular. And I will be doing a post-journey oil change and brake inspection tomorrow.

My love of the V8 comes from experience and history, maybe at this point it is nostalgia. Engine tech has come a long way in my lifetime, I do not reject it out-of-hand. And as to the V8 engines of my youth, I can no longer remember the last time I set up a dual-point distributer or tuned advance weights and springs. Or rebuilt and rejetted a carburetor.
 
when I was 18 i was all about going fast and getting the newest tech.
now im 34 this year, I want something dependable, proven, fun to drive, sounds good, and **** the environmentalists off. I don't chase the latest tech, because I've learned that chasing the latest tech means... unreliable. And it's even better if it creates so much emission that it blows an environmentalist's brain lol

Im not against straight 6 at all, two of my favorite cars that I want to own one day are straight 6s - E46 M3 and A80 supra - but those have stood the test of time and if something goes I know how to fix them. But that's not the case with Ram's straight 6, plus, American muscles SHOULD come with V8s...
 
Latest and greatest usually means… unreliable. Sure new cars are under warranty but your at the mercy of the service dealer which lets be honest is generally a terrible experience and they tend to drag *** getting repairs done in a timely matter. I rather turn my own wrenches and fix whatever comes up and nobody is gonna be more respectful of your own stuff like you, a mechanic is trying to beat the clock by any means possible. Then having to go back once you get your truck back to reroute wires back to where they were from the factory and replace whatever broken connectors or missing bolts that never got reinstalled. Oh and leaning all over your fender thrashing your paint.

The ol hemi is plenty enough for a 1500 series DD truck. Sure the I6 makes more power but isn’t much better on fuel economy and reliability is still up in the air.


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... American muscles SHOULD come with V8s...
I'm a bit older, almost twice your years. I remember a Dodge engine called the Slant Six. It was a popular platform for a bit of rodding. Header, higher compression slugs, 4 barrel manifold and a carb to match, and a few other items. A few grinders even made some good cams for them. They were fun, easy to work on, and ran well.
 
I'm a bit older, almost twice your years. I remember a Dodge engine called the Slant Six. It was a popular platform for a bit of rodding. Header, higher compression slugs, 4 barrel manifold and a carb to match, and a few other items. A few grinders even made some good cams for them. They were fun, easy to work on, and ran well.
Australia had a slant 6 hemi 6 pack . i saw it in a issue of mopar muscle back in the mid 80's and with the magic of the internet it's gotten to be known. the storm before hurricane lol. i actually think they would have sold well here so would the brazilan charger. i'll keep my V8 thank you
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I really miss my 4cyl 90s turbo dodges. I had a 92 Daytona Iroc with 2.5l turbo and manual transmission, and a 91 Spirit R/T. It was a 2.2 DOHC turbo until it threw a rod because guy I bought it from didn't put it back together properly. Then threw in the 2.5 block from my Daytona and had a low compression 2.5 DOHC engine.
 
I'm a bit older, almost twice your years. I remember a Dodge engine called the Slant Six. It was a popular platform for a bit of rodding. Header, higher compression slugs, 4 barrel manifold and a carb to match, and a few other items. A few grinders even made some good cams for them. They were fun, easy to work on, and ran well.
dang that's before my interest in the American muscle sparked hahahaa
now when i think American muslce i just think big displacement V8...
 
I choose a V8 when I plan to keep a truck more than 5 yrs and or tow a lot.

I think the smaller motors offer a lot for those who commute high miles and trade in 5 or so years. The smaller motors have enough power to tow. But the mpg advantage seems to diminish under load, so not much advantage if towing a lot. And smaller motor works harder, so I question long term reliability.

Supporting that theory, a couple years ago I saw a reliable comparison of RAM 1500 Hemi vs Ford F150 Eco-h@m@. When towing in the Rocky Mtns, same route, same trailer wt, the Ford exhibited similar mpg.

i'd be interested if any comparisons out there show different results.
 
I'm a bit older, almost twice your years. I remember a Dodge engine called the Slant Six. It was a popular platform for a bit of rodding. Header, higher compression slugs, 4 barrel manifold and a carb to match, and a few other items. A few grinders even made some good cams for them. They were fun, easy to work on, and ran well.
I have an old piece of farm equipment (hydraulic pecan tree shaker) -1977 model- with a slant six and still going strong with my business! Don't build them like that anymore.
 
I don't know what corner of the country ever had 225 slant six's as a popular "hot rod" engine, but they sure as heck weren't popular with hot rodder's in New England in the 70's when I was in high school(72-76). The Slant 6 was one of the greatest engines ever made, but not for power. They were taxi cab workhorses, and in Mom's Dodge Dart, Plymouth Valiant, or Chrysler 5th Avenue. Oh well.
 
I don't know what corner of the country ever had 225 slant six's as a popular "hot rod" engine, but they sure as heck weren't popular with hot rodder's in New England in the 70's when I was in high school(72-76). The Slant 6 was one of the greatest engines ever made, but not for power. They were taxi cab workhorses, and in Mom's Dodge Dart, Plymouth Valiant, or Chrysler 5th Avenue. Oh well.
They had a nickname of leaning tower of power
 
I choose a V8 when I plan to keep a truck more than 5 yrs and or tow a lot.

I think the smaller motors offer a lot for those who commute high miles and trade in 5 or so years. The smaller motors have enough power to tow. But the mpg advantage seems to diminish under load, so not much advantage if towing a lot. And smaller motor works harder, so I question long term reliability.

Supporting that theory, a couple years ago I saw a reliable comparison of RAM 1500 Hemi vs Ford F150 Eco-h@m@. When towing in the Rocky Mtns, same route, same trailer wt, the Ford exhibited similar mpg.

i'd be interested if any comparisons out there show different results.
What I dislike about small displacement turbos is the lack of engine braking. They make awesome power on the throttle, but are a wet noodle off the throttle.
 
What I dislike about small displacement turbos is the lack of engine braking. They make awesome power on the throttle, but are a wet noodle off the throttle.

This is very true.

Hybridized regenerative braking remedies much of this and is actually pretty cool, but then you’re back to what I don’t like about any advanced tech… just more systems to fail.
 

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