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Update: DO NOT BUY RAM WITH RAMBOX - Warping and Alignment Issue with 2019 Rams

Edwards

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Ok guys so here is my update. I am going to preface this by saying I LOVE the 2019 Rebel. I had the 2015 V6, 2017 V8 and bought the 2019 with all the bells and whistles to keep it long term as I have kids and starting to buy their cars in 3 years. This truck is/was to be my toy for a while but I am highly disappointed with this manufacturer defect. I would strongly encourage people to refrain from purchasing a 2019 Ram with a RamBox. This is issue is going to cause you more headaches and issues in later years in the life of your truck.

This is a bit lengthy and the purpose of it is to provide the group with enough information as opposed to going in circles trying to figure out this issue. So lets get into it.

I took my truck to Tuttle Click Ram in Irvine, CA. The Collision Center Manager is highly knowledgeable. His name is Robert Gegg.

This is my first ram with a rambox. It is a great functional option on these trucks but the 2019 definitely has a significant design flaw.

The challenge:

Plastic door on the rambox vs aluminum door. This is THE problem. The Plastic contracts and expands in heat and cold exponentially hence the warping. The door and the black cover on top will warp and overtime may very well need to be replaced as there is no fix for the warping.

Adding insult to injury:
1) The rambox door simply cannot be replaced. The plastic door is built into the rambox and the rambox is bonded to the body of the truck. The rambox with the door can be replaced but it’s an extensive process.

2) The plastic door when replaced will not be pre-painted and will never match the color tone on aluminum body panel. If you need to repair the plastic due to a ding or scratch it will not match correctly to the aluminum body. It will be visibly noticeable. The workaround, at an unnecessary extra cost, would be to spray the door and the entire aluminum side to match the color tone of the new plastic door. Aluminum is more forgiving when trying to match the color tone and blending is easier.

3) There is no support on the inside back of both the door and black cap on top. The plastic door and black cap on top will expand and contract in heat and cold weather. I live in Orange County, SoCal and its always hot here so that means my door will always contract inward creating gaps and the black top, from the pictures below with bow at each end and get worse over time.

4) To help my issue to a certain degree, the body shop could only move the striker slightly down on the inside where the door latches onto in order to pull the door down to have the door not stick outward and away from the truck. (as seen in the pics below). This did not solve the issue but did the following:

a. Closed the gap to a certain visible degree.
b. In turn created gaps by having the door push inward. The plastic door is not flush to the body but rather goes inward. Now my gaps are not exposed to the outside (up and away from the body) but now going into the truck as seen in the pics below.
c. I have to now slightly slam the rambox door to ensure the latch engages the striker.
d. The only positive item, there is a contour line on the door and body that now are uniformed to the aluminum. This is the only thing that was resolved from lowering the striker.

5) I am thinking from an resale value perspective as well and what the impact could be.
a. Known issue with 2019’s will drive down value if a fix is not offered by RAM.

The right solution is to have FCA replace the entire Rambox with an aluminum door. Anything the dealership will or can do is going to be a band aid b/c it does not eliminate the fact that the door is plastic and the black cap is plastic and has no internal support built into it to manage the expansion and contraction of the plastic.

At this juncture I would not recommend anyone buying a 2019 with a Rambox. There is no real solution to fix this problem with the 2019 rams. FCA needs to find a long-term viable solution – which is to do a recall and replace the the plastic door with an aluminum door.

This is a manufacturer defect, it needs to be fixed by FCA. If not then I will investigate lemon laws that can apply to this issue and will seek legal advice if the matter is not resolved. I am at a point where I do not want the rambox. I would rather have a RAM without it!

Great post with pictures and I am having some mild warping too. You do have some inaccuracies though:

1. The Rambox is not bonded to the body of the truck. The lid is bolted to the Rambox assembly and that is bolted into the truck. I would not call replacing the entire Rambox "extensive" as I've done it twice as outlined here: https://5thgenrams.com/community/threads/faq-how-to-adjust-remove-ramboxes.2530/

2. The body of the truck is not aluminum. Ram only used AL in the hood, tailgate, and doors if I recall correctly. The rest of the bed is sheet metal.

You're spot on with the rest and I'm with you that we need to keep the pressure on Ram to get this fixed!
 

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Great post with pictures and I am having some mild warping too. You do have some inaccuracies though:

1. The Rambox is not bonded to the body of the truck. The lid is bolted to the Rambox assembly and that is bolted into the truck. I would not call replacing the entire Rambox "extensive" as I've done it twice as outlined here: https://5thgenrams.com/community/threads/faq-how-to-adjust-remove-ramboxes.2530/

2. The body of the truck is not aluminum. Ram only used AL in the hood, tailgate, and doors if I recall correctly. The rest of the bed is sheet metal.

You're spot on with the rest and I'm with you that we need to keep the pressure on Ram to get this fixed!
Thanks so much for clarifying. I am going off of what the collision center Manager told me. Not sure what he saw.
 

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Love mine, but they are definitely warped. As others have stated, I'd also get them again. They are just so useful. Since I use my truck as a truck, a few minor cosmetic issues I'll let slide. But I totally get it for those that are upset.

My crappy clunky transmission shifts are far more worrisome than warped boxes.
 

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It's the most useful ugly out there! One of the key features that moved me to Ram and I use it almost more than any other feature.

I get it - I ordered the MFT and feel the same way about it lol. I strongly considered the Rambox - but everything I carry - don't really need them.
 

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It's the most useful ugly out there! One of the key features that moved me to Ram and I use it almost more than any other feature.

I have mine full and constantly finds things and say: “let me put this on my rambox”





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I love mine and even if they are slightly warped it will never cause a decrease in resale value. 90% of the people I showed the issue to didn't even notice them being warped until I pointed it out.

They are pretty easy to fully remove and replace - prob can do both sides well under 30mins.

My dealer ordered the entire thing to replace - lid parts and the box itself. Just waiting on the parts to come in and then will need the pieces painted.
 

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I've got my pics posted in the other Rambox thread, and they're just as bad as yours. My dealer ordered replacements, but if they are the same I don't see how that will fix anything long term. The look bugs me. It's cheap and shoddy for a $60k vehicle.
 
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I always thought they were ugly - glad I didn't order the option lol.
Not my thing either, they definitely turn it into a "work truck." Just need a big ladder rack and a water jug hanging off the back to complete the look ;) :LOL:
 

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I bought my truck in June and noticed right away the warping of the RamBox. I started another thread about it as well. Brought the truck to the dealer and opened a star case. They have ordered all the parts to replace the RamBox but I don’t want to have the parts painted, not yet anyways. The dealer has at least 30 trucks in his inventory with RamBox’s and all of them are showing some sort of warpage. I am sure with as many complaints as what is going on FCA will come up with a solution, until then I’ll keep bringing it back to the dealer and complaining, squeaky wheel.

Possible lemon law situation down the road, don’t want to go there as I love this truck and intended to keep it for at least 10+ years, but the boxes do look bad.
 

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Hi, new here. Just bought a ‘19 w/ the RamBox. So far I love them, and they’re not warped. My wife and I went over the truck very carefully before we signed for it. I’ll keep an eye on them; this isn’t even something I thought might happen.

I park in a garage. How many have warping Ramboxs that also park in the garage? Also, I’m in IA, and it doesn’t get terribly hot here.


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Hi, new here. Just bought a ‘19 w/ the RamBox. So far I love them, and they’re not warped. My wife and I went over the truck very carefully before we signed for it. I’ll keep an eye on them; this isn’t even something I thought might happen.

I park in a garage. Who here are wrapping who do park in the garage? Also, I’m in IA, and it doesn’t get terribly hot here.


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I definitely think there is some correlation to your truck sitting out in the sun a lot.
 

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Not my thing either, they definitely turn it into a "work truck." Just need a big ladder rack and a water jug hanging off the back to complete the look ;) :LOL:

Perhaps you should have bought an SUV instead then? RAMBOX's don't make it look like a work truck anymore than having the box itself since they blend in.
 

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Perhaps you should have bought an SUV instead then? RAMBOX's don't make it look like a work truck anymore than having the box itself since they blend in.

They do not blend in at all - they stick out tremendously.
 
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Perhaps you should have bought an SUV instead then? RAMBOX's don't make it look like a work truck anymore than having the box itself since they blend in.
Nah, can't put loads of rock, bark, etc in an suv. Or make large dump runs. Dead critters kind of stink them up as well. As far as blending in; this thread is all about how much they don't. Even when they fit correctly, they are still very noticeable. Again, not my thing, but that is my opinion. As always, yours may vary
 

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Hi, new here. Just bought a ‘19 w/ the RamBox. So far I love them, and they’re not warped. My wife and I went over the truck very carefully before we signed for it. I’ll keep an eye on them; this isn’t even something I thought might happen.

I park in a garage. Who here are wrapping who do park in the garage? Also, I’m in IA, and it doesn’t get terribly hot here.


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I think it's just the pressure of a center latch on a plastic lid. I'll bet money they will all warp over time. Those in the heat just do it faster. And I'll bet that those who get them adjusted to sit flush will also warp faster as there is more upward pressure on the ends.

Ram just under spec'd the lids.
 

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I love mine and even if they are slightly warped it will never cause a decrease in resale value. 90% of the people I showed the issue to didn't even notice them being warped until I pointed it out.

They are pretty easy to fully remove and replace - prob can do both sides well under 30mins.

My dealer ordered the entire thing to replace - lid parts and the box itself. Just waiting on the parts to come in and then will need the pieces painted.
I will be going back to my dealership and their body shop to have a conversation tomorrow morning :)
 

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Hi, new here. Just bought a ‘19 w/ the RamBox. So far I love them, and they’re not warped. My wife and I went over the truck very carefully before we signed for it. I’ll keep an eye on them; this isn’t even something I thought might happen.

I park in a garage. Who here are wrapping who do park in the garage? Also, I’m in IA, and it doesn’t get terribly hot here.


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Probably all reasons yours are still fine.
 

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