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rear stock springs ORP firm enough?

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when my truck eventually arrives my long box crew cab will get a canopy (which is already waiting at the cap store) and a 4 bike carrier.
i'm just wondering how you guys feel about the stock springs and are they decently firm, or mushy? i have no plans to lift or mod the suspension unless it's inadequate and from what i've read, Ram has done a good job with stock ORP suspension for mild trail/off roading. in my current truck i've had custom leaf springs and of course many guys add a leaf if needed. wondering how soft springs/sagging springs are dealt with on a coil sprung rear end.
 

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I'm in the same boat.

I have a crew cab long bed with the ORP and I'll be adding a topper this Friday and eventually some sort of bike storage/camping setup inside. With no load, I think the ORP suspension looks great and is more firm than the stock 2016 suspension I came from. However, I do anticipate having to add a spacer or stiffer/longer springs to maintain the factory rear height after adding 250-300 of constant load.
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when my truck eventually arrives my long box crew cab will get a canopy (which is already waiting at the cap store) and a 4 bike carrier.
i'm just wondering how you guys feel about the stock springs and are they decently firm, or mushy? i have no plans to lift or mod the suspension unless it's inadequate and from what i've read, Ram has done a good job with stock ORP suspension for mild trail/off roading. in my current truck i've had custom leaf springs and of course many guys add a leaf if needed. wondering how soft springs/sagging springs are dealt with on a coil sprung rear end.
Given that some of us have trucks with factory options that add another 500 lb, I’m thinking there’s ample capacity.

But I have the ORG with air suspension, so what do I know? :)
 

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To preface, I have a 1" spacer in the rear to keep some rake with the front Bils at 2" with a Leer shell. I put two 120qt coolers with ice and food, camping gear for 4, an 85lb dog, and it drops the rear about 1.5" so around .5" nose high.
 

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well it sounds like it's pretty good stock. i hadn't heard any complaints but curious. my Frontier (which will be sold as soon as the Ram arrives) short box was very soft stock. basically needed a leaf or new spring pack almost right away. i'm so stoked for this truck. about a month now sitting in D status. i'll give it another couple weeks and i'll start pushing buttons at the dealership.
 

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when my truck eventually arrives my long box crew cab will get a canopy (which is already waiting at the cap store) and a 4 bike carrier.
i'm just wondering how you guys feel about the stock springs and are they decently firm, or mushy? i have no plans to lift or mod the suspension unless it's inadequate and from what i've read, Ram has done a good job with stock ORP suspension for mild trail/off roading. in my current truck i've had custom leaf springs and of course many guys add a leaf if needed. wondering how soft springs/sagging springs are dealt with on a coil sprung rear end.
I am currently carting around 150 gallons of water a few times per day in the back of my truck that came with the ORG Hitachie's. That is a little over 1251 lbs. My truck squats about 3" in the back with that load. I feel that I am in control of the truck under those conditions. With the factory Falken Tires at 6 ply, I felt it was unsafe. To much wave riding in truck by the suspension after hitting bumps in the road. I replaced those tires with a 10 ply tire and it made a huge difference in ride quality. Enough so that it feels safe to drive. I will be adding Timber Grove air bags in the next week or so to prevent so much squat.

I would say use what you got and if you need to change something start with the ground and work up on replacing/improving the ride quality. For me 10 ply tires made a huge difference. You will still get some squat, but it might feel that you can better manage it with new tires.
 

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^^^^^ Oh yeah, I to have E load 10 plys. Should have mentioned that in my first post.
 

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what are the stock Falken's? i thought they were LT tires ?
 

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